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sumitas 11-23-2008 07:00 AM

horses being turned in for rescue
 
http://www.thehorse.com/ViewArticle....&nID=22&src=RA

and this article suggests throroughbreds for show horses which I think is good . However, they do not mention the unstabalizing effect of the horrific factory farms, especially in Kentucky .
http://www.thehorse.com/ViewArticle....&nID=22&src=RA

paisjpq 11-23-2008 10:36 AM

sumitas deleted his post, I don't want people to be confused about how badly I got "punked" so I am reprinting it My handsome, big, strong, athletic, super conformed yearling will be now pointed to a show horse . He was foaled and raised on the spacious pastures of Irish Hill Century Farm in beautiful Stillwater , NY . Now 20 months of powerful thoroughbred .

For your viewing pleasure here's his site www.saratogawarrior.com . The most recent photos are about 2 months old so he's even more developed now . Quite a bit darker. Very striking . Healthy . Composed dominant temperament. No issues .

A note : He has never seen a sales ring because, imo it's best for his development, and I insist he goes directly to a responsible competition stable .





I don't know why i am bothering to respond, but have you ever even been to a farm in kentucky? Visit one, then go to a hog farm and tell me they are the same thing.

sumitas 11-23-2008 10:39 AM

Kentucky means nothing to me . It's an illusion for a main line to slaughter . It's a spot on a map somebody dreamed up . Let's get back to real horses, shall we ? Instead of biases .

paisjpq 11-23-2008 10:50 AM

yes lets get to the real issue...breeding horses that are not commercially viable and unlikely to be productive racehorses....why don't you trot out to those beautiful pastures where your horses are and get an idea of what they are talking about.

As for pointing you yearling to a show career--not a bad plan, however you will be hard pressed (IMO) to find a high end show stable that wants him. AND what exactly do you think happens to horses that wash out of THOSE programs...newsflash for you, the same thing that happens to any other unwanted horse.

blackthroatedwind 11-23-2008 11:39 AM

Who needs the VI when you have threads like this one.

Cajungator26 11-23-2008 11:39 AM

^^^

Needs to get back to his Mom's basement. It is lonely here now. :(

Cajungator26 11-23-2008 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
Who needs the VI when you have threads like this one.

Dammit ... you just had to post above me. LOL :D

Dr. Watson 11-23-2008 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
Who needs the VI when you have threads like this one.

Don't get me wrong. its an interesting thread but id still prefer being in the Virgin Islands.

declansharbor 11-23-2008 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Dr. Watson
Don't get me wrong. its an interesting thread but id still prefer being in the Virgin Islands.

As Hossy would say, I laughed.

sumitas 11-23-2008 12:24 PM

NY really needs to stop subsidizing those obscene factory farms in Ky, especially . They've destroyed horse racing as a sport and those farm owners would be better in jail than on the loose .

sumitas 11-23-2008 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by paisjpq
yes lets get to the real issue...breeding horses that are not commercially viable and unlikely to be productive racehorses....why don't you trot out to those beautiful pastures where your horses are and get an idea of what they are talking about.

As for pointing you yearling to a show career--not a bad plan, however you will be hard pressed (IMO) to find a high end show stable that wants him. AND what exactly do you think happens to horses that wash out of THOSE programs...newsflash for you, the same thing that happens to any other unwanted horse.

Who are you kidding ? I don't think you have to be an AP Indy to be a succerssful show jumper. Or have Mr Prospector crosses up the butt either .

Danzig 11-23-2008 01:09 PM

sumitas, how do you reconcile your first post with your second? if you feel that there are too many horses, how does breeding more yourself help the issue? especially when you concede he's not viable as a racehorse, and is just one more to be tossed into a rather niche market, show horses.

sumitas 11-23-2008 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig
sumitas, how do you reconcile your first post with your second? if you feel that there are too many horses, how does breeding more yourself help the issue? especially when you concede he's not viable as a racehorse, and is just one more to be tossed into a rather niche market, show horses.

He is viable as a race horse . He'd be a super horse .

I would not allow those slimy pinhookers to get their grubby paws on him, that's all. I'm pointing him in another direction because horse racing runs horses into the ground and sends them to slaughter .

I'm not breeding any more horses . The sport of horse racing is infested with countless useless barbarians only interested in themselves and profit at any cost .

declansharbor 11-23-2008 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by sumitas
He is viable as a race horse . He'd be a super horse .

I would not allow those slimy pinhookers to get their grubby paws on him, that's all. I'm pointing him in another direction because horse racing runs horses into the ground and sends them to slaughter .

I'm not breeding any more horses . The sport of horse racing is infested with countless useless barbarians only interested in themselves and profit at any cost .

A 'this is my last post' type of deal?

blackthroatedwind 11-23-2008 01:43 PM

Somebody clearly left the gate unlocked.




























I hate when that happens.

The Bid 11-23-2008 02:30 PM

Even with polytrack?

Dr. Watson 11-23-2008 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by sumitas
The sport of horse racing is infested with countless useless barbarians only interested in themselves and profit at any cost .

you sound like a peta member. I wish one of these barbarians or shiek mohammed would buy my Detroit Football Lions and restore the roar once and for all!!! We have a 17-0 lead before quarter one is even finished and the circus comes to town.

INT. fumble. INT. fumble. poor tackling. blown coverage. inept qb play. swiss cheese defense. what are they gonna try and do next? get Trent Dilfer out of retirement to play qb? if they are serious about restoring the roar. they will get this fabulous rookie qb playing in New England Cassell. 2 four hundred yard passing games in a row!!!! :$: the stinking Lions break ur heart everytime.

Danzig 11-23-2008 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by sumitas
He is viable as a race horse . He'd be a super horse .

I would not allow those slimy pinhookers to get their grubby paws on him, that's all. I'm pointing him in another direction because horse racing runs horses into the ground and sends them to slaughter .

I'm not breeding any more horses . The sport of horse racing is infested with countless useless barbarians only interested in themselves and profit at any cost .

there's a saying that you're either part of the problem, or part of the solution. if you thought there were already too many unwanted horses, why did you breed horses? if you don't want him to end up in the wrong hands, wouldn't the best thing be to keep him? besides, if he was viable as a racer, i don't see why you'd send him to be a show horse--they can be just as mistreated as racers. and i'd imagine there are too many of them already as well....

Rudeboyelvis 11-23-2008 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr. Watson
you sound like a peta member. I wish one of these barbarians or shiek mohammed would buy my Detroit Football Lions and restore the roar once and for all!!! We have a 17-0 lead before quarter one is even finished and the circus comes to town.

INT. fumble. INT. fumble. poor tackling. blown coverage. inept qb play. swiss cheese defense. what are they gonna try and do next? get Trent Dilfer out of retirement to play qb? if they are serious about restoring the roar. they will get this fabulous rookie qb playing in New England Cassell. 2 four hundred yard passing games in a row!!!! :$: the stinking Lions break ur heart everytime.


Bar shoes

Dr. Watson 11-23-2008 05:31 PM

bar shoes might help!!! :D

Rudeboyelvis 11-23-2008 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by sumitas
He is viable as a race horse . He'd be a super horse .

I would not allow those slimy pinhookers to get their grubby paws on him, that's all. I'm pointing him in another direction because horse racing runs horses into the ground and sends them to slaughter .

I'm not breeding any more horses . The sport of horse racing is infested with countless useless barbarians only interested in themselves and profit at any cost .


POY material, right there....

sumitas 11-23-2008 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig
there's a saying that you're either part of the problem, or part of the solution. if you thought there were already too many unwanted horses, why did you breed horses? if you don't want him to end up in the wrong hands, wouldn't the best thing be to keep him? besides, if he was viable as a racer, i don't see why you'd send him to be a show horse--they can be just as mistreated as racers. and i'd imagine there are too many of them already as well....

He is much better than viable . He is a dominating horse . We're going the show route where he will excel . And we're going directly there instead of a re-train after racing . Get used to it . A lot of people are disgusted by horse racing .

Dr. Watson 11-23-2008 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
Cassell isn't a rookie.

well he backed up two stinky nfl bench warmers in college and has warmed the nfl benches. poor guy has had to sit through boring meetings and take five snaps of practice a week since high school. I hope we get him. Tom Brady has never had back 2 back 400 yard passing games. I still say we should have drafted Brady Quinn though.

Dr. Watson 11-23-2008 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by sumitas
A lot of people are disgusted by horse racing .

yes. the ones who dont have to watch the lions.

sumitas 11-23-2008 05:42 PM

Quite a double whammy there . Enjoy the good and run as fast as you can from the bad .

declansharbor 11-23-2008 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
Right, but he's not a rookie.

and both of those 'stinky nfl bench warmers' are John Elway compared to the trash that DET runs out at that position.

Rudeboyelvis 11-23-2008 06:27 PM

Why is there a direct link to Finger Lakes Racetrack on his web site if you despise it so much?

Was this his idea, by chance?

Everything's written in first person, from the horses perspective, and given your history here, I'm assuming that the horse talks to you and tells you his thoughts to enter on the web site for him...

Does your horsey hate racing as much as you?

AeWingnut 11-23-2008 06:33 PM

What does Detroit have to do to lose the Thanksgiving day game? It is always terrible.

AeWingnut 11-23-2008 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by sumitas
He is much better than viable . He is a dominating horse . We're going the show route where he will excel . And we're going directly there instead of a re-train after racing . Get used to it . A lot of people are disgusted by horse racing .

My horse could have won the triple crown but I decided to stay home and feed him hedge apples instead.

paisjpq 11-23-2008 07:01 PM

sumitas you are a bizarre person. and you are posting at a truly delusional level....but your bullsh*t is mildly amusing. I hope you don't believe a word you write....and realize that if your horse were to go to races I would wager that after about 4 starts in as many weeks trying to break his maiden in 5 claimers he would be on the first truck to the new holland sale...and frankly, good riddance. It would serve you right for being part of the overall problem...breeding sh*t to sh*t and hoping it turns into gold.

having said that, be sure to let us know what his name is so we can look for him at the world eq games in a couple of years...you might not have heard of it because it's being held in KENTUCKY.

rontheman1964 11-23-2008 07:02 PM

Please don't tell me Nebraska is going to be a Safe Haven for horses now. We already have too many people dropping off their unwanted kids here. But hey, I guess we can promise each of those kids their own pony now. That should cheer them up some....

miraja2 11-23-2008 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by sumitas
He is viable as a race horse . He'd be a super horse .

I would not allow those slimy pinhookers to get their grubby paws on him, that's all. I'm pointing him in another direction because horse racing runs horses into the ground and sends them to slaughter .

I'm not breeding any more horses . The sport of horse racing is infested with countless useless barbarians only interested in themselves and profit at any cost .

To whom it may concern,

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paisjpq 11-23-2008 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by sumitas
Who are you kidding ? I don't think you have to be an AP Indy to be a succerssful show jumper. Or have Mr Prospector crosses up the butt either .

no...but to be a DESIRABLE show jumper you have to be a WARMBLOOD.

paisjpq 11-23-2008 07:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sumitas
He is viable as a race horse . He'd be a super horse .

I would not allow those slimy pinhookers to get their grubby paws on him, that's all. I'm pointing him in another direction because horse racing runs horses into the ground and sends them to slaughter .

I'm not breeding any more horses . The sport of horse racing is infested with countless useless barbarians only interested in themselves and profit at any cost .

they wouldn't want him.

pick up the chronicle of the horse and check the suspensions page...you'll find the same barbarians drugging show horses. And lets not forget how many show horses have been killed for insurance money.

hi_im_god 11-23-2008 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by paisjpq
they wouldn't want him.

pick up the chronicle of the horse and check the suspensions page...you'll find the same barbarians drugging show horses. And lets not forget how many show horses have been killed for insurance money.

serious question: are the ethics in judging high level show horses better or worse than olympic ice skating?

i have no idea. i dated someone that showed arabian's here in socal years ago and she always felt connections were almost as important as the quality of the horse.

i'm always suspicious of a "sport" that requires supposed independent judging. i like finish lines.

AeWingnut 11-23-2008 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by rontheman1964
Please don't tell me Nebraska is going to be a Safe Haven for horses now. We already have too many people dropping off their unwanted kids here. But hey, I guess we can promise each of those kids their own pony now. That should cheer them up some....


:D


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