Aussie view: A Creationist as Would-be Veep?
 

Found this while looking at Melbourne Cup info... As vacuous as she is appalling. That this person was included on a presidential ticket is beyond comprehension. A sad comment on America's political landscape.

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Creationist Sarah and the politics of extinction

Even scarier than the Republican vice-presidential nominee's ignorance of science is that many Americans agree that Earth began just a moment ago in time. Rick Feneley reports...

Sarah Palin believes in fossil fuels but not necessarily in fossils. This is no trivial matter. Of all the intense scrutiny Palin has faced in this campaign - not least on the matter of her wardrobe - nobody in America seemed much interested in asking her the dinosaur question.

That is: do you believe, or have you ever believed, that the world was created in the past 5000 or 10,000 years and that dinosaurs roamed the planet alongside humans?

Palin's political extinction may be only days away but somebody really should have asked this question of the woman who has advocated the discussion of creationism in the classroom; the woman who might have been a heartbeat from the presidency; the woman whom John McCain described as being among the "foremost experts in this nation on energy issues".

During the 2006 gubernatorial debate in Alaska, Palin suggested schools could teach creationism as well as evolution. "Teach both," she said. "You know, don't be afraid of education. Healthy debate is so important and it's so valuable in our schools. I am a proponent of teaching both."

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There are a lot of smart/great people who thoroughly (sp?) believe the Bible & everything in it. Its a hard subject to debate with someone when faith and belief are involved.

Personally, I just can not.. no matter how I think about it or try to have faith, can not believe that Adam and Eve started this whole thing or that Noah's Ark happened.. or... countless stories that I could pull out of the Bible.

I respect people who have faith and believe in the bible... I mean it has to take a lot of faith to believe some of those things.

But to IGNORE SCIENCE (which is supposed to be a major school topic) and teach this creation theory in schools is just :zz:

it shouldn't be.

someone's deep belief in a fairy tale doesn't end the discussion. rational people need to stop walking away from the topic. many christians have no problem understanding that a parable can carry morale truth without being factual. you can believe in god and still know the books of the new testament were written decades to centuries after the historical jesus died and chosen for inclusion by people with a political agenda for a strong centralized church.

the books of the old testament are no different. anyone who believes god stopped the midday sun in the sky (written at a time when people thought earth was the center of the universe) don't understand celestial mechanics.

treat creationists with the same respect you would someone who insists they've been kidnapped by aliens and want to teach your kids about that at school.

Grade jub,Hi.


Fine work...really.

Proof there is no god...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sFmK9tD-Ckg

Sooooooo.... you voting for McCain?

I think Steve is writing in Walter Mondale

I 100% agree with this, and I def do debate with my Christian friends (ask Cajun - her and I talk about it all the time). But there are so many of them that think the Bible is Non-Fiction and believe every word in there. I dont get it but no matter what I say, they still have their faith (which is respectable). Shoot a few people I work with believe God is responsible for everything and some how God will make McCain win. I told them - "I'm not sure God is a registered voter" - I also said "How do you know God doesnt want Obama"

Its an honorable thing to have faith IMO... but no way that stuff belongs in classrooms! If you want to learn about it in school - go to a private Catholic or Christian school.

That was pretty swell as well.

I liked it..although you will never know what I am.





I do believe Adam and Eve is a metaphor for Steve and Thebby.

Behooviepied.


I do know what you are though. :)

Lori, you are on a roll homie!

YOU KNOW NOTHING!



















I'm sorry.


You know nothing.





Because I want to know who made the black hole...that's my question to science...and how God had no beginning and will have no end....and that He is everywhere.

The last one I can maybe buy---a little.




They both have bu-choo 'splaining to do.

that's alright... i wrote in a Simon/Byk ticket

After reading a few articles on state laws limiting voting rights, and debate on the definition of "mental incompetence", I do agree with rescinding the right to vote for reasons of diminished capacity. But, we don't give out competency exams when people register to vote.

Would a belief that the world is round, or belief in creationism be sufficient to prove diminished capacity? What is the IQ cut-off? How about past drug/alcohol use?

Fine work Maestro!




:tro: :tro: :tro:

Thanks homie.. now that Philly has a World Championship my brain can function normally LOL ;)

In all seriousness, I'm not a big fan of MY *****'S SOOOOO HOT. She did a fine job with her speech at the RNC, but since then everything out of her mouth is like trying to listen to SkidsMother... but the opposite view ya know.

My vote hasnt changed, I still like Johnny boy- but I've conceeded the race to Obama and I'm going to give him the benefit of the doubt and support him while he's leading this place (A job I sure as hell wouldnt want at this time in history).

tell me about it!! I have a lot of questions I'd like answered by you SIR :mad:


(and I DO know)

Thank you.

I hope you and Thebby will enjoy it.

Bori..like I said.....nothing.

Bori?

I guess thats better than Whori

I would think so.





What about Snori?

What about Uncly?

Snorty

:mad:


And how 'bout Skunkly?

[quote=Kasept]Found this while looking at Melbourne Cup info... As vacuous as she is appalling. That this person was included on a presidential ticket is beyond comprehension. A sad comment on America's political landscape.[/QUOTE=Kasept]

Go find Palin's interpretation of the First Amendment, even more interesting.

i loved this post god. so glad to know i'm not alone. matter of fact, i think a lot of people doubt far more than they let on--it's the better dead than different, follow the pack mentality. not sure how often i've heard ' play it safe, and believe'-so they're generally faking it as well.

i got into a theological discussion with a former coworker. it was, in a word, hilarious.
she ended with telling me i was hard hearted, as she could no longer attack my points-so she had to resort to attacking me. it was a great day at work that day.

it can't be as good as her explaining what supreme court rulings she disagreed with. or maybe it can....:zz:

On the other hand...let's not bag people who have strong faith, either, such as the can do no wrong Dumars has the season.




Maybe what you really believe is what comes to pass.

How would we know?




Could you see yourself standing there pointing out airplanes to a homo erectus and then explaining to him how this radar set makes it all so easy?

Something similar really happened:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=16fvTonR_gA

she said it was god's will that the natural gas pipeline be built in alaska-maybe that's what mccain was talking about?:D

OH baby, I could write a book about this, and spend a lot of time thinking about it.

I think I'm agnostic. I mean... when you look in the skies and see a million stars, or look around at beautiful mountains or oceans...

I mean if for some reason night did not come to the earth, and we never saw the stars.... they would still be there right?? But if you told someone - "look at the sky... there are millions of "suns" out there that have planets revolving around them and they are called solar systems. Most solar systems are even larger than ours"

Ya know that person would be like :zz: Yeah right!!! Cause they cant see it.

Same with God... I mean if we can have the earth and the sky and the stars, why cant there be a "God" too... Just cause we cant see God doesnt mean he's not there.

But I just cant go along with organized religion... I feel its more about Greed and Power than "God".

And the Bible, well, its a wonderful book to base how you live your life, and it teaches good morals (eventhough some are outdated). But I just dont see myself ever taking the Bible for more than that. Its hard to dispute FACT, like dinosaurs & there fossils...

And i have NO idea of an afterlife... Sure I would love there to be one, but most of me thinks that when we pass our energy is just decomposed into the earth.


There's my 2 cents on God for ya Morty.

Same thing.




To explain airplanes and radar sets you would to explain electrcity,hydraulics,electronics,avionics---differential air pressure being ESSENTIAL----the vulcanization process.....metal fabricating........







...ya foller?

Thanks Uncly..innocuous and completely missing the point as per usual.





I'm an agnostic,too.

But I don't think you got what I said.




Forget it.

whatever a$$ hole, I completely got what you said and was just letting you know how I feel about the topic.


And I wrote a few times in the beginning of the topic that I respect people who have faith.

But I guess you didnt get what I meant buddy & completely missed the point as usual.

:D

but dont miss the point Hossy! ;)

Oh go fucl< yourself you raging beast.

get in the Cah - Sol and say that, numbnuts! :mad:

I'll kick yo a$$ after I kick hossy's a$$ at Sarah's Toga.

:baby:

You couldn't kick yer own as.s.....you couldn't kick a prosthesis as.s!