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AeWingnut 10-25-2008 02:31 PM

Iavarone family theatened before Belmont?
 
I was watching the BC coverage and Michael Iavarone claims that his family was threatened before the Belmont. Something about "if anything happens to Big Brown... I will kill your family" not really sure what he said. His mic was too low and I'm trying to follow the races.

Not sure if he was threatened by peta or who it was but he said it was an extremist

Rudeboyelvis 10-25-2008 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by AeWingnut
I was watching the BC coverage and Michael Iavarone claims that his family was threatened before the Belmont. Something about "if anything happens to Big Brown... I will kill your family" not really sure what he said. His mic was too low and I'm trying to follow the races.

Not sure if he was threatened by peta or who it was but he said it was an extremist

I saw that too... Maybe the reason for the dramatic pull up by Desormeux, or another Ivarone publicity stunt.

the_fat_man 10-25-2008 03:53 PM

Nice job of that by ABC. Sounded like John Clayton (the football insider) or even the mumbling, bumbling Trevor Denman.

Samarta 10-26-2008 06:04 PM

That little bit made no sense. It was almost like the broadcast didn't even acknowlege what he was saying. Did you notice Moss and Bailey when they cut back to them? They had that "BS" look on their faces and didn't even say anything. The funny part was when he asked him about where the case stood and his response was well since nothing happened to Big Brown he figured everything was alright. So you have 8 detectives show up at your home because they have substantiated a death threat and they escort you throughout the day and your horse loses and is safe and they say "have a nice day Mr. Ivarone"

Who was the Detective? Fish?

-BT- 10-26-2008 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Samarta
That little bit made no sense. It was almost like the broadcast didn't even acknowlege what he was saying. Did you notice Moss and Bailey when they cut back to them? They had that "BS" look on their faces and didn't even say anything. The funny part was when he asked him about where the case stood and his response was well since nothing happened to Big Brown he figured everything was alright. So you have 8 detectives show up at your home because they have substantiated a death threat and they escort you throughout the day and your horse loses and is safe and they say "have a nice day Mr. Ivarone"

Who was the Detective? Fish?


that story had no business being reported on BC day (or at all), it had no relivence with the BC events and why ESPN decided to set this guy up with a microphone and broadcast his story is beyond me. IMO this piece was just trying to shine some sort of postive light on Ivarone (after all the negative sh!t that has been said about him). I honestly wouldn't be surprised if Ivarone himself didn't reach out to ESPN by himself.
Side note- did anyone see his HUGE bodyguard in the paddock with him when they were interviewing him just as Pure Clan was being saddled?

-bt-

blackthroatedwind 10-26-2008 06:59 PM

The big bodyguard sat in front of me the entire Belmont Stakes card.

I could be wrong, but I think he could have taken me.

Cannon Shell 10-26-2008 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
The big bodyguard sat in front of me the entire Belmont Stakes card.

I could be wrong, but I think he could have taken me.

Taken you where?

Hickory Hill Hoff 10-26-2008 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis
I saw that too... Maybe the reason for the dramatic pull up by Desormeux, or another Ivarone publicity stunt.

Probably the latter :rolleyes:

Immanuel Kant 10-26-2008 08:24 PM

The interview was right before a race was about to go I believe and was rushed...they never came back to the story, making it appear to be disjointed and unbelievable(much like their entire broadcast)

Shoddy journalism at best

3kings 10-26-2008 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by -BT-
that story had no business being reported on BC day (or at all), it had no relivence with the BC events and why ESPN decided to set this guy up with a microphone and broadcast his story is beyond me. IMO this piece was just trying to shine some sort of postive light on Ivarone (after all the negative sh!t that has been said about him). I honestly wouldn't be surprised if Ivarone himself didn't reach out to ESPN by himself.
Side note- did anyone see his HUGE bodyguard in the paddock with him when they were interviewing him just as Pure Clan was being saddled?

-bt-

I saw Ivarone the Friday of Travers weekend at Ciro's,he had no body guard. He was standing by himself, no one paying attention to him, didn't seem worried.......just lonely

blackthroatedwind 10-26-2008 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by 3kings
I saw Ivarone the Friday of Travers weekend at Ciro's,he had no body guard. He was standing by himself, no one paying attention to him, didn't seem worried.......just lonely


That's not exactly fair. First of all, it's Siros, but mostly Iavarone was there many nights and he was always with friends.

However, I never saw a bodyguard there.

3kings 10-26-2008 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
That's not exactly fair. First of all, it's Siros, but mostly Iavarone was there many nights and he was always with friends.

However, I never saw a bodyguard there.

My point was he was by himself and at ease......no body guard, standing alone at the bar with no apparent worries..........my apology to the owners of Siros.

blackthroatedwind 10-26-2008 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by 3kings
My point was he was by himself and at ease......no body guard, standing alone at the bar with no apparent worries..........my apology to the owners of Siros.


I must have been thrown by the lonely comment.

But I get it. You're right.....he didn't seem troubled to be in public there. And certainly nobody seemed to bother him when I was there. And, I was there a lot.

Cajungator26 10-26-2008 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
Taken you where?

I laughed.

asudevil 10-26-2008 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
The big bodyguard sat in front of me the entire Belmont Stakes card.

I could be wrong, but I think he could have taken me.

He had the huge bodyguard at SA....My friends and I looked at each other and said "very necessary.":rolleyes: Joe Pesci was tagging along with them on Friday.

pba1817 10-26-2008 11:06 PM

Too bad the threat makers didnt follow through.....

The Bid 10-26-2008 11:53 PM

Sometimes when you cross the wrong people you need to hire protection. Hopefully for Mr Iavarone and his family whomever he's upset gets over it before as opposed to getting even

docicu3 10-27-2008 02:34 AM

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Originally Posted by pba1817
Too bad the threat makers didnt follow through.....


And why exactly would that be......

Merlinsky 10-27-2008 04:12 AM

Why didn't they do us all a favor and threaten to duct tape Dutrow's mouth shut?

Seriously if they had a ton of money on a supposed sure thing and BB gets pulled up on purpose that puts you in worse danger, not less, Rudeboyelvis. They're protecting the investment not the horse's safety per se...one just happens to lead to the other as a general rule. I don't think a threat not to let anything happen to BB had to do with keeping him physically sound...I think they meant 'don't screw it up so the horse doesn't get across the line or you'll be sorry.' They might've been better off to pass that on to Kent instead of Iavarone. Sort of a 'scared straight' jockey lesson. Instead his rode as only KD can. :rolleyes:

jms62 10-27-2008 05:27 AM

That interview smelled like a horses stall first thing in the AM...

Antitrust32 10-27-2008 07:03 AM

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Originally Posted by The Bid
Sometimes when you cross the wrong people you need to hire protection. Hopefully for Mr Iavarone and his family whomever he's upset gets over it before as opposed to getting even

Maybe people after him from his Hedge Fund days?

GBBob 10-27-2008 07:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Antitrust32
Maybe people after him from his Hedge Fund days?

or perhaps the Benny the Bull days...

-BT- 10-27-2008 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
The big bodyguard sat in front of me the entire Belmont Stakes card.

I could be wrong, but I think he could have taken me.


did you ever have to say "HEY!!!! DOWN IN FRONT!!!!!"

even though that guy could probably tuck you under his armpit without anyone noticing, i'm pretty sure you could get some good shots in

-bt-

The Bid 10-27-2008 12:59 PM

If I lost my life savings in the market because some guy was trading my money without my permission hed need a 24hr bodyguard, and that benz the pope drives around in.

-BT- 10-27-2008 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by The Bid
If I lost my life savings in the market because some guy was trading my money without my permission hed need a 24hr bodyguard, and that benz the pope drives around in.


i hear ya, but anyone dumb enough to put their life savings into penny stocks should be tought a serious lesson about life

-bt-

pba1817 10-27-2008 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by docicu3
And why exactly would that be......

Use your imagination...

Linny 10-27-2008 01:26 PM

I was parked right across from where BB was stabled on Belmont day. My friend and I walked through the tunnel to go to the car and there was Iavarone (and bodyguard w/o BTW tucked under his arm) talking to a couple of media types. Soon a group of about 10 media members was gathered. At this time, no one could confirm or deny the colt's "condition" other than that he'd walked off the track under his own power. (I was at the gap and he walked 4 feet from me. No security there other than the usually NYRA Security.)
Over on the backstretch post race, alot of folks were milling about. I chatted with John Lee and a couple of media types. Iavarone was there, Dutrow was there (and very quiet) and I saw no one that appeared to be "security" other than the big bodyguard and one NYRA security man. We hung around for quite some time hoping to get any info about the horse. Nothing seemed out of the ordinary considering the circumstances. I wasn't wearing my credential yet I was able to walk up quite close to the barn (and I'm not that well known at Belmont) without being questioned. I pushed right up into the group of reporters speaking to Iavarone at the intersection of the main road to the gap and the road BB was stabled on.
I find it odd, after hearing this story that this man was under some sort of death threat at that moment. I was clearly diappointed but he didn't look worried for his life.

The Bid 10-27-2008 01:41 PM

Its sad someone would resort to threatening the guys life or his family. When someones serious there is no threat prior to death. They just show up and your dead.

pba1817 10-27-2008 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by The Bid
Its sad someone would resort to threatening the guys life or his family. When someones serious there is no threat prior to death. They just show up and your dead.

What is sad is that ESPN saw fit to give this guy any more airtime and to run this story with ZERO confirmation from reliable sources.

The Bid 10-27-2008 01:52 PM

Hes earned TV time

-BT- 10-27-2008 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by The Bid
Its sad someone would resort to threatening the guys life or his family. When someones serious there is no threat prior to death. They just show up and your dead.


gotti is that you?


-bt-

The Bid 10-27-2008 02:42 PM

BT, doesnt that make sense though. Why tell someone.."Im going to kill you" just kill them if you want to kill them, dont let them know its coming so they can hire help and you can wrestle with your conscience.

Play this backwards 10 times at midnight

-BT- 10-27-2008 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by The Bid
BT, doesnt that make sense though. Why tell someone.."Im going to kill you" just kill them if you want to kill them, dont let them know its coming so they can hire help and you can wrestle with your conscience.

Play this backwards 10 times at midnight


i hear ya, i think it was desperate attempt to reach out to viewers who don't think highly of him and cast himself as a victim and not the vilan. Either way, how was the public supposed to re-act to a statement like that? it happened months ago, are people gonna see him in a different light now?

-bt-

The Bid 10-27-2008 10:41 PM

Nobody thinks highly of him, except him!

Cajungator26 10-28-2008 06:36 AM

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Originally Posted by jms62
That interview smelled like a horses stall first thing in the AM...

Nothing better than the smell of horse shiat piling up all night. :)


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