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Kasept 10-24-2008 06:41 AM

10/25: Breeders Cup Selections (Saturday)
 
25th BREEDERS' CUP -- OAK TREE AT SANTA ANITA -- SATURDAY


Cup's Opening Day was wildly pleasurable with huge performances from real stars like Zenyatta, Ventura and Stardom Bound, and thrilling finishes that produced Forever Together and Maram. The series of human connections involved were also easy to root for too. Results were very similar to last year's first day as the Filly and Mare Sprint was the lone productive suggestion. Look to hit a few more this afternoon via multi-race plays and some spot plays on overlays. Hope you did OK Friday..


1st: 1st BC Marathon, 3+, 12f (P3, DD, Super)

Best Value: #3 Delightful Kiss 8-1 4th
Most Likely: #4 Sixties Icon 2-1 5th
Next Best: #6 Zappa 5-2 7th
Super Add: #7 Big Booster 9-2 3rd



2nd: 1st BC Turf Sprint, 3+, 6.6f-T (P4, P3, DD, Super)

Most Likely: #13 Get Funky 9-2 9th
Best Value: #8 Diabolical 8-1 2nd
Next Best: #2 Fleeting Spirit 5-1 4th
Super Add: #6 Storm Treasure 12-1 3rd
Deep Exotics: #5 Salute the Count 12-1 6th



3rd: 2nd BC Dirt Mile, 3+, 1m (P3, DD, Super)

Most Likely: #8 WELL ARMED 3-1 9th
Best Value: #1 Lewis Michael 5-1 7th
Next Best: #7 Albertus Maximus 4-1 WON
Super Add: #9 Slew's Tiznow 15-1 10th
Deep Exotics: #6 Pyro 20-1 6th



4th: 25th BC Mile (Gr. I), 3+, 1m-T (P6, P3, D, Super)

Most Likely: #4 Goldikova 3-1 WON
Best Value: #3 Precious Kitten 8-1 4th
Next Best: #2 Kip Deville 5-1 2nd
Super Add: #5 Daytona 6-1 10th
Deep Exotics: #6 Awesome Gem 20-1 6th



5th: 25th BC Juvenile (Gr. I), 2yo, 8.5f (P3, DD, Super)

Most Likely: #1 Munnings 7-2 10th
Next Best: #11 Midshipman 5-1 WON
Best Value: #6 Silent Valor 15-1 8th
Super Add: #8 Street Hero 6-1 3rd
Deep Exotics: #13 West Side Bernie 20-1 6th



<$100 P4 Play:

2: 2-3-4-5-6-7-8-13
3: 8
4: 2-3-4
5: 1-6-8-11

8x1x3x4 = $96



6th: 2nd BC Juvenile Turf, 2yo, 1m-T (P4, P3, DD, Super)

Most Likely: #7 Coronet of a Baron 9-2 3rd
Best Value: #6 Vaquero 20-1 6th
Next Best: #4 Donativum 6-1 WON
Super Add: #12 Grand Adventure 5-1 10th
Deep Exotics: #10 Skipdate 6-1 11th



7th: 25th BC Sprint (Gr. I), 3+, 6f (P3, DD, Super)

Most Likely: #4 MIDNIGHT LUTE 7-2 WON
Next Best: #2 Street Boss 3-1 3rd
Best Value: #8 Sing Baby Sing 30-1 6th
Super Add: #3 Fabulous Strike 4-1 5th



8th: 25th BC Turf (Gr. I), 3+, 12f-T (P4, P3, DD, Super)

Most Likely: #11 Eagle Mountain 6-1 2nd
Best Value: #5 Winchester 15-1 7th
Next Best: #3 Grand Couturier 6-1 11th
Super Add: #6 Dancing Forever 10-1 3rd



9th: 25th BC Classic (Gr. I), 3+, 10f (P3, DD, Super, Super Hi 5)

Most Likely: #9 Curlin 7-5 4th
Best Value: #7 Student Council 20-1 11th
Next Best:#4 Duke of Marmalade 10-1 9th
Super Add: #10 Fairbanks 10-1 10th
Deep Exotics: #6 Smooth Air 50-1 7th



<$150 P6 Play:

4: 4
5: 1-6-11
6: 3-4-6-7-10-12
7: 2-4
8: 5-11
9: 9

1x3x6x2x2x1 = 72 x $2 = $144



10th: 1st Damascus, 3yo, 7f (DD, Super)

Best Value: #2 Hatta Fort 12-1 3rd
Most Likely: #12 Georgie Boy 2-1 4th
Next Best: #6 Into Mischief 4-1 WON
Super Add: #14 Master Daniel 30-1 9th



11th: Oak Tree Derby (Gr. II), 3yo, 9f-T (Super)

Most Likely: #6 Madeo 7-2 2nd
Best Value: #9 Woodland Flood 30-1 9th
Next Best: #8 Deal Making 10-1 6th
Super Add: #14 Pearl Fisher 30-1 11th



<$100 P4 Play:

8: 3-4-5-10-11
9: 4-7-9
10: 2-12
11: 6-9-10

5x3x2x3 = $90



Good luck!
Steve

CharlieR 10-24-2008 06:56 PM

Steve,
Will you have Pick 3, Pick 4 choices up tonight?

Kasept 10-24-2008 07:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CharlieR
Steve, Will you have Pick 3, Pick 4 choices up tonight?

Tonight late or more likely early tomorrow..

cowgirlintexas 10-24-2008 07:42 PM

Steve,
Have you had a chance to eat at the "Brown Derby" yet?
What a place that is.. to see all that memorabilia when you walk in is really something to see..If I remember, Phar Laps saddle is there :)

Bigsmc 10-24-2008 07:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cowgirlintexas
Steve,
Have you had a chance to eat at the "Brown Derby" yet?
What a place that is.. to see all that memorabilia when you walk in is really something to see..If I remember, Phar Laps saddle is there :)

Tonight late or more likely early tomorrow..

cowgirlintexas 10-24-2008 08:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bigsmc
Tonight late or more likely early tomorrow..

Be hard to get in there either of those days.. Place is packed I'm sure by now.

dalakhani 10-24-2008 10:00 PM

Steve-

You put Midnight Lute in all caps. Does that mean you like him as a "best bet"?

Kasept 10-24-2008 10:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dalakhani
Steve-

You put Midnight Lute in all caps. Does that mean you like him as a "best bet"?

Yes.. He looks great. Even this a.m. on the gallop. His gallop is like other horses working out.

ninetoone 10-24-2008 10:18 PM

If he bolds it, underlines it, italics....well, that's never been done.

cowgirlintexas 10-24-2008 10:18 PM

Look forward to seeing him blow them away tomorrow :)

Beautiful horse too by the way...

dalakhani 10-24-2008 10:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kasept
Yes.. He looks great. Even this a.m. on the gallop. His gallop is like other horses working out.


Thanks

Kasept 10-25-2008 06:40 AM

P6, P4's and some minor placement movements complete.. Headed to track. Enjoy the day and good luck to everyone!

Steve

asudevil 10-25-2008 08:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kasept
P6, P4's and some minor placement movements complete.. Headed to track. Enjoy the day and good luck to everyone!

Steve

I agree on the Silent Valor inclusion....could run a big one.

mclem0822 10-25-2008 09:51 AM

P6 Ticket.......
 
4
1-6
3-4-7-10-11
2-4
4
1-2-4-9

$160
Good Luck All!

mclem0822 10-25-2008 09:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by asudevil
I agree on the Silent Valor inclusion....could run a big one.

Count me in, he's on my P6 play.

hockey2315 10-25-2008 10:01 AM

My 3 Big plays
 
Win bets on In Summation, Winchester, and double the amount of the other two on Champs Elysees.

Danzig 10-25-2008 10:13 AM

i expected student council on there as the best value-and came here just to see if he was there. been working well from what i've read, and i think he's live-and at those odds, would be well worth playing on top, using in exotics, etc.

CSC 10-25-2008 10:18 AM

I agree on Goldikova in the mile, perhaps the day's most likely winner. Though I would prefer softer ground to SA's very firm turf course. If she handles that and the California heat it's really hard to get past her.

Danzig 10-25-2008 10:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CSC
I agree on Goldikova in the mile, perhaps the day's most likely winner. Though I would prefer softer ground to SA's very firm turf course. If she handles that and the California heat it's really hard to get past her.

i am really looking forward to the mile. i think it's one of the more exciting races coming up today.
the marathon...not so much.

Kasept 10-25-2008 10:33 AM

NOTE: Damascus Stakes (R10) SCR's: 3-7-9

CSC 10-25-2008 10:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danzig
i am really looking forward to the mile. i think it's one of the more exciting races coming up today.
the marathon...not so much.

I just hope we see the real Goldikova today, I read it's hot in California and that would be the main worry for me if I play a European horse today. Only one Euro has run well from day 1, though it is a small sample it can be something to look at if it continues.

Danzig 10-25-2008 10:40 AM

i'd be more concerned about how crowded it might be on the front end. yeah, the heat's a factor, but what will happen if all the horses who like to lead try to?
i hope she does well tho, i always root for the ladies when they face the gents.

Kasept 10-25-2008 10:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CSC
I agree on Goldikova in the mile, perhaps the day's most likely winner. Though I would prefer softer ground to SA's very firm turf course. If she handles that and the California heat it's really hard to get past her.

The turf course is NOT hard..

Two things were/are at play on the grass course... #1, the rails had been at 24' all meet as they were saving the inside paths for this weekend. As a result, that significant section of the turf is softer than the portion they've been running on. #2, the course was actually heavily watered yesterday and had PLENTY of give to it...

John Velasquez told Haskin last night that when he came off after the Juvy Filly Turf, his boots were soaked. Bill Mott told me the same thing this morning as well. If you look at the finishing order of the elder F&M's in fact, you'll notice the hard ground lovers faired poorly. Don't buy into the 'rock hard turf' suggestions.

Bigsmc 10-25-2008 10:55 AM

Saturday, October 25th, 2008

Race 1: Scratch #2 Add Heat; #4, #5 First time Lasix
Race 2: #2, #8 First time Lasix
Race 3: No Changes
Race 4: #4 +2 Overweight; #7 First time Lasix
Race 5: Scratch #7 Elusive Bluff
Race 6: Scratch #13 Mark's the Cooler; #3 First time Lasix
Race 7: Scratch #1 Cost of Freedom
Race 8: #4, #7 First time Lasix
Race 9: #6 Rider Bejarano; #4, #5, #8 First time Lasix
Race 10: Scratch #3 D. Double You, #7 Victor's Cry, #9 Young Joe; #5 Blinkers Off
Race 11: #5 Correct Weight 118 pounds

CSC 10-25-2008 11:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kasept
The turf course is NOT hard..

Two things were/are at play on the grass course... #1, the rails had been at 24' all meet as they were saving the inside paths for this weekend. As a result, that significant section of the turf is softer than the portion they've been running on. #2, the course was actually heavily watered yesterday and had PLENTY of give to it...

John Velasquez told Haskin last night that when he came off after the Juvy Filly Turf, his boots were soaked. Bill Mott told me the same thing this morning as well. If you look at the finishing order of the elder F&M's in fact, you'll notice the hard ground lovers faired poorly. Don't buy into the 'rock hard turf' suggestions.

That's very helpful Steve, thanks! I'll factor that into my selections.

TheSpyder 10-25-2008 11:03 AM

Already used this info and a few others from your show to have a very good day yesterday. I think the synthetic complaints are simply not warranted. The track plays off the lead. Being 1st of 2nd at the 1/4 of any race yesterday was not the place to be.

Spyder
Quote:

Originally Posted by Kasept
The turf course is NOT hard..

Two things were/are at play on the grass course... #1, the rails had been at 24' all meet as they were saving the inside paths for this weekend. As a result, that significant section of the turf is softer than the portion they've been running on. #2, the course was actually heavily watered yesterday and had PLENTY of give to it...

John Velasquez told Haskin last night that when he came off after the Juvy Filly Turf, his boots were soaked. Bill Mott told me the same thing this morning as well. If you look at the finishing order of the elder F&M's in fact, you'll notice the hard ground lovers faired poorly. Don't buy into the 'rock hard turf' suggestions.


mclem0822 10-25-2008 12:03 PM

Race 1 Pick 3.......
 
4-6
2-3-6-7-8-10-12-13-14
8-11
$36
Good Luck All!

MaTH716 10-25-2008 12:05 PM

Early Pick 3
1)3,4
2)2,7,10,13
3)1,7,8
$24
Good Luck everyone! Hope we all have big days!

-BT- 10-25-2008 12:05 PM

R1) PK'3
3458
247 13
8 10

4
2345678 13
18 10

$2 ex. box
3458

gl all

-bt-

mclem0822 10-25-2008 12:36 PM

Race 2 P4
 
2-3-6-8-10-11-12-13-14
8
2-4
1-6-9-11-12

$90
Good Luck All!

-BT- 10-25-2008 12:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mclem0822
2-3-6-8-10-11-12-13-14
8
2-4
1-6-9-11-12

$90
Good Luck All!

i was thinking about the PK4, had a 96 ticket put together and still didn't feel secure enough to play it, sticking w/ PK3's

R2) PK3
245678 13
8
246 11


gl all

-bt-

cowgirlintexas 10-25-2008 12:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mclem0822
2-3-6-8-10-11-12-13-14
8
2-4
1-6-9-11-12

$90
Good Luck All!

:( Damn Michael! Used just about every horse but the damn 9..

mclem0822 10-25-2008 12:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by -BT-
i was thinking about the PK4, had a 96 ticket put together and still didn't feel secure enough to play it, sticking w/ PK3's

R2) PK3
245678 13
8
246 11


gl all

-bt-

Desert Code at 35-1 just blew me outta the p4, I should have stuck to p3's as well!:mad:

mclem0822 10-25-2008 01:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cowgirlintexas
:( Damn Michael! Used just about every horse but the damn 9..

Yep, don't it figure!:(

mclem0822 10-25-2008 01:08 PM

Race 3 P3......
 
8
2-3-4
1-6-9-11-12

$15
Good Luck All!

Lava 10-25-2008 01:15 PM

Race 3 $2 Tri
1-7
1-7-8-9
1-2-7-8-9
$36

Danzig 10-25-2008 01:17 PM

well armed seems a lock....

i would go with two step salsa and lewis michael to try to beat the fave, and use underneath him.

Danzig 10-25-2008 01:18 PM

oh. well that's just effing great. hank just mushed two step salsa.

cowgirlintexas 10-25-2008 01:37 PM

Damn.. Looks like the "sure thing" was after all.. damn it!:mad: :(

the_fat_man 10-25-2008 01:44 PM

no CHANGE = no MONEY


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