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GPK 10-19-2008 10:21 AM

C. Powell endorses Obama
 
This deserves a wow. Whether I agree with him or not on this matter, kudos to General Powell for his honesty and willingness to cross party lines in the face of what will surely be some harsh criticism directed at him from the Rep. party.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/politico/200...politico/14714

ninetoone 10-19-2008 10:35 AM

I made the same announcement back when McCain chose the dingbat as his running mate & it didn't make news...go figure. :)

GPK 10-19-2008 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by ninetoone
I made the same announcement back when McCain chose the dingbat as his running mate & it didn't make news...go figure. :)


I think that thread got erased:)

Cajungator26 10-19-2008 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by GPK
This deserves a wow. Whether I agree with him or not on this matter, kudos to General Powell for his honesty and willingness to cross party lines in the face of what will surely be some harsh criticism directed at him from the Rep. party.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/politico/200...politico/14714

Unfortunately, people will think he's crossing party lines because of the color of his skin. Sad, but true. I respect his decision as well ... I'm just disappointed that the Republican party couldn't nominate a better candidate (ahem, Ron Paul) than McCain as I really don't think McCain has much of a shot against Obama. Sigh.

ninetoone 10-19-2008 10:55 AM

I truly believe McCain had a shot w/a different running mate.

Cajungator26 10-19-2008 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by ninetoone
I truly believe McCain had a shot w/a different running mate.

Could be the case, but you gotta respect McCain for taking a shot. It could have gone either way. He's rather liberal for a Republican candidate and Palin was definitely unexpected. I'm voting for McCain, but only because I think he's the lesser of the two evils. I don't think either one was the best candidate nominated for their parties, though.

ninetoone 10-19-2008 11:00 AM

I like McCain, but I actually lost a little respect for him for that choice. I just don't believe that he truly thought she was the best choice out there (how could he?) Seemed really gimmicky to me.

Cajungator26 10-19-2008 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by ninetoone
I like McCain, but I actually lost a little respect for him for that choice. I just don't believe that he truly thought she was the best choice out there (how could he?) Seemed really gimmicky to me.

Yeah, I agree with that ... I think he took a chance in choosing her (maybe trying to get some of the votes from Hillary's supporters?) and I highly doubt that he thought she was the best choice out there. I would have rather Mitt Romney myself, but too late for that. I've accepted the fact that Obama is probably going to be our next President. I'll get over it at some point. :(

Storm Cadet 10-19-2008 11:06 AM

Saw Powell on Meet the Press this AM with Tom Brokaw (sp?).

I made the same decision for Obama as Powel did. Poor VP choice...Rep party moving too far right...I agee with Powell's views 100% and I do hope that Obama uses Powell in some capacity in his administration.

Coach Pants 10-19-2008 11:19 AM

This guy is trying to salvage his reputation. Remember he's the one that helped sell the Iraq War.




Crinkle





Trash Can

geeker2 10-19-2008 11:25 AM

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AeWingnut 10-19-2008 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Storm Cadet
Saw Powell on Meet the Press this AM with Tom Brokaw (sp?).

I made the same decision for Obama as Powel did. Poor VP choice...Rep party moving too far right...I agee with Powell's views 100% and I do hope that Obama uses Powell in some capacity in his administration.


I guess it is a matter of perspective but I don't see the (R) party moving to the right at all.


Obama___(D)__________McCain___________(R)_____Amer ica___Me____

GPK 10-19-2008 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Coach Pants
This guy is trying to salvage his reputation. Remember he's the one that helped sell the Iraq War.




Crinkle





Trash Can


Curious...you think that is honestly the case Coach?

Storm Cadet 10-19-2008 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Coach Pants
This guy is trying to salvage his reputation. Remember he's the one that helped sell the Iraq War.




Crinkle





Trash Can

And it you followed closely, it was on the information that was CONCRETE EVIDENCE that was supplied by OUR CIA that he spoke to United Nations. And he instructed Bush that all diplomatic means should have been explored before war was started but was OVER RULED by Cheney and his staff. Powell was pushed aside by Bushes staff and kept as an outsider.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,101148,00.html

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/06/...ref=newssearch



Look up this guy who gave Bush and Powell all the intel and said it was CONCRETE.

Danzig 10-19-2008 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by ninetoone
I truly believe McCain had a shot w/a different running mate.

i think you're right. obama is a lukewarm choice...with the economy, eight years of bush, etc--and obama still can't achieve separation in the polls? had mccain stuck with his middle of the road viewpoint, and chosen a running mate with similar middle thoughts, and more experience, he'd be in the lead, rather than trailing by (depending on the polls) 2-8%. no way far righters would abandon the republic party-his choice of palin was stupid and no doubt a decision he regrets.

Danzig 10-19-2008 12:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coach Pants
This guy is trying to salvage his reputation. Remember he's the one that helped sell the Iraq War.




Crinkle





Trash Can

is't powell saying he was lied to? i think that's the line he's taking. that he staked his reputation on what supposedly has turned out to be a bunch of b.s.

SCUDSBROTHER 10-19-2008 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig
i think you're right. obama is a lukewarm choice...with the economy, eight years of bush, etc--and obama still can't achieve separation in the polls? had mccain stuck with his middle of the road viewpoint, and chosen a running mate with similar middle thoughts, and more experience, he'd be in the lead, rather than trailing by (depending on the polls) 2-8%. no way far righters would abandon the republic party-his choice of palin was stupid and no doubt a decision he regrets.

McCain has a very bad temper, and gets into arguments. I think Karl Rove told him he had to take Romney. Johnboy didn't like being told who to pick etc. He also got angry that Obama gave a great speech that Thursday Night he accepted the Democratic Nomination. Jealous guy couldn't take the attention that OBAMA was gunna get over the next weekend. So, you add those up, and the result is he made a poor selection for V.P. based on one thing...ANGER!!! This is not a guy that can easily calm himself, and make a rational decision. That's why he can't win these Independent types(which is what C POWELL really is.) In all those debates with OBAMA, the majority of independents kept locking into how he is a hothead. They aren't gunna vote for that type of person right now. They just want somebody to start getting the country going again. They don't think the best choice for it is heat.

letswastemoney 10-19-2008 01:08 PM

Palin's policies would be no different than any other Republican....if you like Republican policies....I don't see why she'd stop you. She'll cut your taxes and whatnot and do most of the same things Mccain would do.

I'm saying that even though I want Obama to win.

SCUDSBROTHER 10-19-2008 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by letswastemoney
Palin's policies would be no different than any other Republican....if you like Republican policies....I don't see why she'd stop you. She'll cut your taxes and whatnot and do most of the same things Mccain would do.

I'm saying that even though I want Obama to win.

The majority of people voting aren't gunna be Republican. She's objectionable to most anyone that isn't Republican. The 1st time most Americans saw her, she helped introduce herself by making a joke about a certain group of women being like dogs(in other words btches) with lipstick. From that moment on, I think a good portion of America considered her an entertaining bar-matron type(not as a person to replace a President.)

SCUDSBROTHER 10-19-2008 02:12 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k5YsWODZX9Y&NR=1

Honu, do you remember me telling you I have a lil MINPIN BTCH that is so competitive that she screams if she can't be the 1st one to the top of the stairs? This is an example of what she does. This ain't her, but sounds like her. This btch gets frustrated when she can't catch the rabbit. That's not the rabbit making the sounds. It's the btch. I haven't had any male dogs do this.

Mortimer 10-19-2008 02:13 PM

Bus graffiti is more interesting than these unmitigated messes.

Cannon Shell 10-19-2008 02:24 PM

http://www.votesmart.org/

SCUDSBROTHER 10-19-2008 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Main photo looks like an advertisement for Mormon Family Night.

pgardn 10-19-2008 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Cajungator26
that the Republican party couldn't nominate a better candidate (ahem, Ron Paul) .

So you are really for Obama.
Ron Paul would have been destroyed.
A little peak into his past... immediate elimination.

Powell also said that McCain would make a great president.
He just said that Obama is the better choice at this time
given the current environment. He left open the idea
that in different circumstances, McCain would be the man.

He also said both men would/will make a good president.
He stated he did not like the way McCain's campaign had
adopted negativity. A bit naive. Any party behind starts
to bring out the irrelevant mud. Maybe Powell thinks the
country is already divided enough so this is not the time
given our economic and military situations.

I wonder if he wants a spot somewhere with Obama.
Did anyone hear or read about this?

Mortimer 10-19-2008 02:52 PM

He stated he did not like the way McCain's campaign had
adopted negativity. A bit naive. Any party behind starts
to bring out the irrelevant mud.

Change is coming??

Mortimer 10-19-2008 02:58 PM

Wouldn't it be funny if when Ms. PussyGalore goes back to Alaska the airport welcoming committee has placards saying---"Change is Coming."

Danzig 10-19-2008 05:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by letswastemoney
Palin's policies would be no different than any other Republican....if you like Republican policies....I don't see why she'd stop you. She'll cut your taxes and whatnot and do most of the same things Mccain would do.

I'm saying that even though I want Obama to win.

i think there are many who call themselves republicans, but aren't as far to the right as palin. most americans are in the middle. some tilt to the left on some things, some to the right. but neither the far left, nor far right candidate appeals to most voters, as they fit somewhere in the middle. mccain may have drawn a lot of these middle of the road types...til he went with a far right running mate.

as for cutting taxes, um...yeah, sure.
mccain wants to tax the portion of your health care that's provided by your company. that doesn't sound like a cut to me.

Mortimer 10-19-2008 05:34 PM

^^^^ Chad stuck in the open position.

geeker2 10-19-2008 05:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danzig
i think there are many who call themselves republicans, but aren't as far to the right as palin. most americans are in the middle. some tilt to the left on some things, some to the right. but neither the far left, nor far right candidate appeals to most voters, as they fit somewhere in the middle. mccain may have drawn a lot of these middle of the road types...til he went with a far right running mate.

as for cutting taxes, um...yeah, sure.
mccain wants to tax the portion of your health care that's provided by your company. that doesn't sound like a cut to me.



When they re-distribute the wealth and it goes from others to me then it will be a middle of the road policy.

If not - it's a far left policy.

Mortimer 10-19-2008 07:06 PM

Argue about the better side of a coin.

Mortimer 10-19-2008 07:12 PM

There's no middle of the road on that one.

geeker2 10-19-2008 07:48 PM

I hope you get some Morty.....$$$ and the either side of the coin..or both.

Mortimer 10-19-2008 07:53 PM

I have no moan-aye.


You can cross off rich old guy.

geeker2 10-19-2008 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Mortimer
I have no moan-aye.


You can cross off rich old guy.


That's good - because you will be getting some when Obama rules.

As for the coin..I was hoping for "tail" & 'head" for you...where the hell is DOO-DAH when you need her.

Mortimer 10-19-2008 08:02 PM

ror!!


She's out making more hot videos.

Riot 10-20-2008 04:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danzig
i think you're right. obama is a lukewarm choice...with the economy, eight years of bush, etc--and obama still can't achieve separation in the polls?

?? Obama has been steadily holding 6-7 points ahead of McCain for the past three weeks, with several "definitely McCain" states losing ground and changing to "leaning", and several swing states now virtually guaranteed Obama. It may end up a Democratic landslide.

I thought (as a Republican) the same way Powell did. And yes, I too think the GOP is embracing so far to the right they have become intolerant of and disinfranchising to 35-40% of their party membership (the end result being McCain has lost this election)

http://www.gop.com/2008Platform/Values.htm

http://www.democrats.org/a/party/platform.html

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i think there are many who call themselves republicans, but aren't as far to the right as palin. most americans are in the middle. some tilt to the left on some things, some to the right. but neither the far left, nor far right candidate appeals to most voters, as they fit somewhere in the middle. mccain may have drawn a lot of these middle of the road types...til he went with a far right running mate
We don't "call" ourselves Republicans, we ARE Republicans <g> Yes, the running mate was the start of the end for McCain (whom I had intended to vote for), I think. Looking back over the past couple of months, though, Palin's obvious incompetence turns out to be just a small part of the ultimate turn-off.

letswastemoney 10-20-2008 06:52 PM

I don't see why McCain has to be so slimy in his campaign. He should have just stuck to what he plans to do as President, rather than constantly attack Obama. Maybe I wouldn't have voted for him still, but I sure would have respected McCain more.

Mortimer 10-20-2008 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by letswastemoney
I don't see why McCain has to be so slimy in his campaign. He should have just stuck to what he plans to do as President, rather than constantly attack Obama. Maybe I wouldn't have voted for him still, but I sure would have respected McCain more.


Typical libtard backhand...no comment was needed in the first place---as you so plainly noted.

SCUDSBROTHER 10-22-2008 12:25 PM

I take issue with what Powell said about a Moslem-American Child feeling they could someday be President. No, it's not o.k. to think that. No Moslem will ever be President of the United States. Let me give you just one example why. This is the type of debate that would occur:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0nUI3TUdFCk

The Moslem running for President would have to agree with the teachings of his prophet. One of these teachings is that it's o.k. to knock your wife around a little, but not too much(don't beat her in the face etc.) There is a huge difference between the teachings of Christ, and the teachings of Muhammad. The followers of one aren't going to be lead by the followers of the other, and Atheists sure aren't going to agree to be lead by a follower of Muhammad.

CSC 10-22-2008 01:56 PM

I saw the new Oliver Stone movie W on the weekend and Colin Powell was about the only person to come out looking good in it.


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