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cakes44 09-30-2008 07:51 AM

Worst BC favorite?
 
I don't want this to be a horse bashing thread, but I want to know who you guys think was the worst betting choice in a BC race. Mine would have to be Peace Rules in the 2003 Mile. That was one of the easier tosses I've ever had in a BC race, and he went off at 3-1 somehow.

philcski 09-30-2008 08:03 AM

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Originally Posted by cakes44
I don't want this to be a horse bashing thread, but I want to know who you guys think was the worst betting choice in a BC race. Mine would have to be Peace Rules in the 2003 Mile. That was one of the easier tosses I've ever had in a BC race, and he went off at 3-1 somehow.

that's the first one that came to my mind... and i might have been his biggest fan

GPK 09-30-2008 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by philcski
that's the first one that came to my mind... and i might have been his biggest fan


Dylan Thomas '07 Turf:wf

GPK 09-30-2008 08:15 AM

And on the opposite end of the spectrum, how Ouija Board was able to go off at 7-5 in the 06 F&M Turf is still mind boggling to me.:zz:

Thunder Gulch 09-30-2008 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by GPK
And on the opposite end of the spectrum, how Ouija Board was able to go off at 7-5 in the 06 F&M Turf is still mind boggling to me.:zz:


I remember discussing at length with a friend (BT) that Ouija Board was actually stepping DOWN in class with the F&M Turf. She had been traveling the world winning G1 races in mixed company. That was a chalkeaters delight if ever there was one.

CSC 09-30-2008 09:01 AM

Aptitude at 5/2?

GPK 09-30-2008 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Thunder Gulch
I remember discussing at length with a friend (BT) that Ouija Board was actually stepping DOWN in class with the F&M Turf. She had been traveling the world winning G1 races in mixed company. That was a chalkeaters delight if ever there was one.


Yeah...Wait A While at 5/2 in that race was a joke.

lemoncrush 09-30-2008 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by GPK
Yeah...Wait A While at 5/2 in that race was a joke.

Ouija Board, Film Maker and Honey Rider was, perhaps, the easiest trifecta of all time. I think it paid around $30, too.

smuthg 09-30-2008 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by lemoncrush
Ouija Board, Film Maker and Honey Rider was, perhaps, the easiest trifecta of all time. I think it paid around $30, too.

Wasn't Henny Hughes a ridiculously low price in the Sprint that year also? maybe even money.

GPK 09-30-2008 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by smuthg
Wasn't Henny Hughes a ridiculously low price in the Sprint that year also? maybe even money.


He was 8-5. Bordonaro was second choice at 4-1. I will forever hate Thors Echo.:wf

philcski 09-30-2008 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by lemoncrush
Ouija Board, Film Maker and Honey Rider was, perhaps, the easiest trifecta of all time. I think it paid around $30, too.

actually it paid $121 for $2

ateamstupid 09-30-2008 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by philcski
actually it paid $121 for $2

I played an anti-Wait a While trifecta and couldn't believe how well it paid.

GPK 09-30-2008 10:18 AM

Only reason I made any kinda :$: on that day was because my girl Round Pond won :tro: :tro: and Asi Siempre was taken down and Happy Ticket was placed 2nd.

I was alive to 5 horses in the Sprint for a pick 4 after singling both DOA in the Juv Filly and Ouija Board. Have I mentioned I still hate Thors Echo?

philcski 09-30-2008 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid
I played an anti-Wait a While trifecta and couldn't believe how well it paid.

So did I- 'twas the best BC I've ever had. Street Sense ($32.80), Ouija Board ($4.80), Round Pond ($29.80), and Invasor ($15.40) all on top. The Sprint and Turf knocked me out of multirace wagers though... not that I was complaining.

philcski 09-30-2008 10:32 AM

Now that I think about it, there has been a LOT of terrible Frankel favorites. Aldebaran & Midas Eyes in back to back years, while outstanding horses, were terrible bets at their respective odds in the 6F Sprint.

Thunder Gulch 09-30-2008 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by philcski
So did I- 'twas the best BC I've ever had. Street Sense ($32.80), Ouija Board ($4.80), Round Pond ($29.80), and Invasor ($15.40) all on top. The Sprint and Turf knocked me out of multirace wagers though... not that I was complaining.

One of my better ones as well. Ouija Board big on the turf, then kept betting the 1 on the dirt.

brianwspencer 09-30-2008 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by lemoncrush
Ouija Board, Film Maker and Honey Rider was, perhaps, the easiest trifecta of all time. I think it paid around $30, too.

Just as it was the first time around with Wonder Again rounding that out. Ouija Board-Film Maker-ALL was about as easy as it came.

RolloTomasi 09-30-2008 11:00 AM

I think Arazi was favored in the Mile, even though he had established he was toast numerous times during the course of the year.

Caltech I think was favored in the '89 Turf. He was an allowance horse that won the Bud International. Somehow, Euro horses that had ran decent races in the Arc, had prior Group 1 form, and came from two of the biggest stables in France (ie Star Lift and Sierra Roberta), went off at ridiculously huge odds ). They ran 2-3 as Prized won the race at 5-1 or so.

Can't remember if she was favored, but I remember Ragin Fever's performances getting worse and worse (despite winning) as the distances got longer during her 2yo campaign.

banter 09-30-2008 11:51 AM

Yeah, the BC Mile has a record of puzzling bettors. Gorella went off in '06 as the 3/1 lukewarm favorite, even though everyone knew how vulnerable she was.

brianwspencer 09-30-2008 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by banter
Yeah, the BC Mile has a record of puzzling bettors. Gorella went off in '06 as the 3/1 lukewarm favorite, even though everyone knew how vulnerable she was.

Wasn't Araafa the favorite that day?

Either way, I totally agree. The Mile is always the toughest for me to figure out and the public seems to have the same problem.

GPK 09-30-2008 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by brianwspencer
Wasn't Araafa the favorite that day?

Either way, I totally agree. The Mile is always the toughest for me to figure out and the public seems to have the same problem.


yea...3-1. Aragorn was 4-1

cakes44 09-30-2008 12:31 PM

This sounds bad after he won the year after, but IMO Artie Schiller had no business being the favorite in the Mile at Lone Star in 2004.

VOL JACK 09-30-2008 12:52 PM

The bad fav this year will be whoever is favored in the sprint... Lute or Fab strike would be my guess.

brockguy 09-30-2008 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by GPK
Dylan Thomas '07 Turf:wf

Totally agree. I think he was 6/5 or around that.. He had no chance with the ground. i backed Shamdinan though..

banter 09-30-2008 12:58 PM

Yes, I checked the BC stats, and it was Araafa (finished 9th) that went off at 3/1. Gorella (finished 7th) was second favorite at 7/2.

hoovesupsideyourhead 09-30-2008 01:08 PM

e channel ..? when mesque a.put on a school..:tro:

gpk ball bust!!

Indian Charlie 09-30-2008 01:09 PM

I've never been more sure of a favorite losing a race as I was with Rubiano in the 1992 sprint.

banter 09-30-2008 01:11 PM

What about Riboletta in the '00 Distaff? Left the gate at 2/5 and finished 7th in a 9-horse field. Spain was the winner at about 55/1 (whoo, I would have liked some of that action).

Indian Charlie 09-30-2008 01:14 PM

oh, and groovy against very subtle, that had to be the least likely win by a favorite in BC history.

RolloTomasi 09-30-2008 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by banter
What about Riboletta in the '00 Distaff? Left the gate at 2/5 and finished 7th in a 9-horse field. Spain was the winner at about 55/1 (whoo, I would have liked some of that action).

Riboletta was a desrving favorite. She got injured in the Distaff from what was reported.

cakes44 09-30-2008 01:28 PM

Cuvee from the 12 hole at 8-5 I think, 1st time around 2 turns, and a son of Carson City was a solid toss in '03 as well. He finished last I believe.

Revidere 09-30-2008 03:56 PM

Mogambo, 1985 Juvenile. Hated Aqueduct, loved Belmont.

Slewbopper 10-01-2008 07:34 PM

Fu Peg at 6/5. Finished 6th beaten by 4 other 3 yos and Lemon Drop Kid

lemoncrush 10-01-2008 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by VOL JACK
The bad fav this year will be whoever is favored in the sprint... Lute or Fab strike would be my guess.

Street Boss will be the M/L favorite, and I assume postt ime fave this year. No chance Lute or Fab Strike will be favored with the campaigns (or lack of campaigns) they've had this year, despite their reputations.

ELA 10-01-2008 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by cakes44
Cuvee from the 12 hole at 8-5 I think, 1st time around 2 turns, and a son of Carson City was a solid toss in '03 as well. He finished last I believe.

Cuvee was the favorite, 8-5, maybe 3-2, I don't remember. Although I tossed him, on paper he was appeared to be one of the strongest favorites; primarily because there were several horses where the connections just decided not to run. Well they don't run the race on paper. I think a lot of the expected contenders didn't run as expected in their final preps. Pletcher had Chapel Royal, but I am not sure if he any others in there, and he was pretty heavy in 2yo's that year. Zito as well.

Cuvee was coming off two impressive wins if I remember correctly, but he screamed sprinter and I don't think anyone was enthusiastic about him stretching out (Asmussen and Bailey). I don't remember who it was, but I think only one horse in the field had a two turn win. Anyway, Cuvee was last, but he got beat about 100 lengths and walked across the wire.


Eric

RollerDoc 10-01-2008 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by smuthg
Wasn't Henny Hughes a ridiculously low price in the Sprint that year also? maybe even money.


Yeah, I thought Henny Hughes was a sure thing. I think I suckered myself into the Bernardini - Discreet Cat hype figuring he could piggyback off their success since the connections were the same.

RolloTomasi 10-02-2008 05:30 AM

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Originally Posted by ELA
Cuvee was coming off two impressive wins if I remember correctly, but he screamed sprinter and I don't think anyone was enthusiastic about him stretching out (Asmussen and Bailey). I don't remember who it was, but I think only one horse in the field had a two turn win.

Action This Day had the two turn win. Possibly That's An Outrage, too. Both in maiden races at the Oak Tree meet.

ELA 10-02-2008 06:51 AM

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Originally Posted by RolloTomasi
Action This Day had the two turn win. Possibly That's An Outrage, too. Both in maiden races at the Oak Tree meet.

You are right, I forgot about Action This Day. Actually, I was thinking about the Walden horse, Tiger Hunt. For whatever reason I forgot his name. I don't remember ATD breaking his maiden, nor the other horse. I would suspect Eurosilver might have been the favorite, co-favorite, strong second choice had Zito ran him.

Eric

GPK 10-02-2008 06:59 AM

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Originally Posted by hoovesupsideyourhead
e channel ..? when mesque a.put on a school..:tro:

gpk ball bust!!


Just now saw this:rolleyes:
Miesques Approval won the Mile.

EC ran in the Turf all 3 attempts and never went to post as the favorite.:D

philcski 10-02-2008 08:29 AM

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Originally Posted by ELA
You are right, I forgot about Action This Day. Actually, I was thinking about the Walden horse, Tiger Hunt. For whatever reason I forgot his name. I don't remember ATD breaking his maiden, nor the other horse. I would suspect Eurosilver might have been the favorite, co-favorite, strong second choice had Zito ran him.

Eric

... and ATD was not NEARLY the most impressive 2YO male winner that weekend at Santa Anita. Another colt broke his maiden that Friday in a huge performance that went on to do big things, can you name him?


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