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GPK 09-16-2008 09:49 PM

Belmont 9/17 Race 2
 
Anyone think She's Prime is worth a play tomorrow coming out of the Doremifasollatido maiden race? Especially with her winning the Matron on Sat.

ML of 5-1 and Sarah Accomplished is sure to take a bundle of $$


Would love to hear some thoughts.

GPK 09-16-2008 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
I'm not crazy about the Dutrow either. My first thought was maybe the blinkers sharpen Sassy in Stripes up and she shows more speed with them. I can see your horse running well, but Mike Miceli rarely wins. At least she will be a nice price. I wasn't crazy about Soave either and what do you do with red Cognac? They paid a bundle, but Tony Dutrow isn't known for first out success and Zayat pays a lot for everything. Basically, I have no clue....


What do you make of Trusted Kafwain? Ronen seems to be doing well with limited starters.

GPK 09-16-2008 10:14 PM

Im also not crazy about Soave. I used to love to bet Levine/Coa combo with firsters, but she's dead in there on the rail.

GPK 09-16-2008 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
I'm not real crazy about the card period, but I think Goldsville has a big shot in the 3rd.


I ain't real crazy about it either...but I gotta do something with my day off tomorrow:$:

pick4 09-16-2008 10:45 PM

My Auguilla is trained by Bruce Levine and while he is not known for FTS sucess he has won with the right horse. The owner of this 220k purchase from Fastig sales is usually a claiming outfit. That is a lot of money to spend on a NY bred. She'll need to have speed out of the gate and Coa is a good gate jockey and has had success aboard Levine horses.

The 6 Soave is the horse to beat in race two. But what's to say the rail horse is not a big time runner or even the Zayat horse 7.Red Cognac breaking from post 7?

GPK 09-16-2008 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by pick4
My Auguilla is trained by Bruce Levine and while he is not known for FTS sucess he has won with the right horse. The owner of this 220k purchase from Fastig sales is usually a claiming outfit. That is a lot of money to spend on a NY bred. She'll need to have speed out of the gate and Coa is a good gate jockey and has had success aboard Levine horses.

The 6 Soave is the horse to beat in race two. But what's to say the rail horse is not a big time runner or even the Zayat horse 7.Red Cognac breaking from post 7?


Why is Soave the horse to beat?

hrfan 09-16-2008 10:55 PM

OK, i have been looking at the 1-3 pick 3 and the early pick 4 for a few days now...

At first glance i thought the Second was wide open, i thought the Deleware horse had a shot, like hoss said earlier, i thought levine was live, but now after getting down to business and watching replays, i think Dutrow is super strong in here, i know the price wont be there but there, but with any improvment she could crush these, i might also use the Tony d firster, but no more then 2 deep.

hrfan 09-16-2008 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
I'm not real crazy about the card period, but I think Goldsville has a big shot in the 3rd.

hmmm.........

pick4 09-16-2008 11:01 PM

Soave finished 2nd twice and has the look of a horse who will take a lot of money and a horse the public cappers will tout.

I hope I'm correct.

hrfan 09-16-2008 11:04 PM

ok back to the second, dam im changing my mind, i think shes prime does have a shot, i just watched her replay a number of times, and it was not that bad, more distance, and the experience of that first start could put her right there

hrfan 09-16-2008 11:04 PM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
Hmmm what?

you know what

GPK 09-16-2008 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by pick4
Soave finished 2nd twice and has the look of a horse who will take a lot of money and a horse the public cappers will tout.

I hope I'm correct.


You can have her. I won't be using her.

The more I look at Levine's firster...she has a pretty nice pedigree.

hrfan 09-16-2008 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by GPK
You can have her. I won't be using her.

The more I look at Levine's firster...she has a pretty nice pedigree.

soave... intriguing, go to calracing and watch the replays, pp's do no justice, she was off a bit slow in both of her starts, if she breaks on top she could be lone speed.

hrfan 09-16-2008 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
No, I don't. Spit it out.

i like mott also, as i am sure you saw in my pm !!!!!!

GPK 09-16-2008 11:10 PM

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Originally Posted by hrfan
soave... intriguing, go to calracing and watch the replays, pp's do no justice, she was off a bit slow in both of her starts, if she breaks on top she could be lone speed.


Thanks for the great idea:tro:

hrfan 09-16-2008 11:11 PM

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Originally Posted by GPK
Thanks for the great idea:tro:

lol, well do the pp's say anything about not getting out, it was nothing major but there is no doubt she was a step slow in both starts

GPK 09-16-2008 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by hrfan
lol, well do the pp's say anything about not getting out, it was nothing major but there is no doubt she was a step slow in both starts


If you seriously think she was off "a step slow" in those two starts....:wf :wf

hrfan 09-16-2008 11:15 PM

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Originally Posted by GPK
If you seriously think she was off "a step slow" in those two starts....:wf :wf

i do think so. both races

GPK 09-16-2008 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by hrfan
i do think so. both races


Just have to agree on a difference of opinion. I think she broke just fine in both her races

hrfan 09-16-2008 11:17 PM

its plain as day in her first start at belmont, when the gates open the only horse she is in front of is the #4, kent rushes her up and she stays on well for second around the track, i mean its very clear

hrfan 09-16-2008 11:17 PM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
Just so I'm clear and i don't go nuts for no reason, what are you insinuating?

great handicappers think alike!!!!

GPK 09-16-2008 11:18 PM

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Originally Posted by hrfan
its plain as day in her first start at belmont, when the gates open the only horse she is in front of is the #4, kent rushes her up and she stays on well for second around the track, i mean its very clear


If she broke slow, then all of them but Hookin the Goods broke slow.

GPK 09-16-2008 11:37 PM

Wow....shows how little I paid attention to Saratoga this year. I had no idea that On Board Again made it back to the races:eek:

hrfan 09-17-2008 12:18 AM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
if by telling me that in the 3rd race you thought the 3 and 4 were A's, i guess. And you're welcome for the 45 minutes of my life that I wasted last night trying to teach you something.

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THANK YOU, BUT I STILL DONT GET HOW YOU DECIDED WHO TO USE WITH what, i just cant get it... help me hoss, i am seeking help
I AM LOST

hrfan 09-17-2008 12:19 AM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
She broke maybe a half step slow each race and had horrible action last time. Not to mention the fact she has lost ground in the stretch each race. No thanks at short odds.

SHE wont be that short

hrfan 09-17-2008 12:22 AM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
She's going to be second choice at worst. Maybe and it's a big maybe, if the Zayat firster takes money she might be 3rd choice and around 3-1 or so. No thanks.

im going pick 4, will you help ?

hrfan 09-17-2008 12:24 AM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
She's going to be second choice at worst. Maybe and it's a big maybe, if the Zayat firster takes money she might be 3rd choice and around 3-1 or so. No thanks.

i would much rather get beat with one of the firsters then with kent d/bush

GPK 09-17-2008 12:27 AM

I'm jealous you dont spend this kinda quality time with me Hossy. I wanna learn too:(


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