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hrfan 09-14-2008 11:54 PM

Mambo In Seattle ? ? ?
 
Are the rumors true ?
Will he really be coming to Belmont in 2 weeks to face Curlin, with Mr. Calvin Borel getting the mount.

Danzig 09-15-2008 03:37 AM

last i read about him, they were thinking super derby.

hrfan 09-15-2008 04:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Danzig
last i read about him, they were thinking super derby.

I pray they go Jockey Club, if the price is right, and in my mind 3-1 would be, i would make a nice bet on him.
why super derby ? following in the footsteps of Grasshopper ?

Danzig 09-15-2008 05:14 AM

super derby is for 3 yo's and has a nice purse. i'd imagine they think it would be a good place to shoot for a win.
and i have a hard time thinking he'd be that low vs curlin odds-wise.

hrfan 09-15-2008 05:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Danzig
super derby is for 3 yo's and has a nice purse. i'd imagine they think it would be a good place to shoot for a win.
and i have a hard time thinking he'd be that low vs curlin odds-wise.

THE HIGHER odds the better. if you look at the noms. for the JCGC there is not much other then Curlin, Curlins last 3 races have been nothing special, solid but not spectacular, and some think he might be tailing off a bit, he has had a long campaign with a trip to Dubai, that normally eventually takes its toll on almost all horses, if he regresses at all, or even runs the 110-112 beyer he has been putting up, i think Mambo could make it intriguing, If Mambo were to take a step forward, which you would have to assume he will, he could be right there with Curlin IMO.

Quiet Chris 09-15-2008 03:40 PM

Mambo needs to actually win a real race before taking on Curlin. The Super Derby looks like an awful field. It is a nice prep for him for the BCC. He is a Kingmambo and should like the synthetic.

If Mambo were to win the BCC and BB not run well, he might miss out the 3yr old Eclipse to Big Brown by the nose he lost by in the Travers.

dalakhani 09-15-2008 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Quiet Chris
Mambo needs to actually win a real race before taking on Curlin. The Super Derby looks like an awful field. It is a nice prep for him for the BCC. He is a Kingmambo and should like the synthetic.

If Mambo were to win the BCC and BB not run well, he might miss out the 3yr old Eclipse to Big Brown by the nose he lost by in the Travers.


How is a race on the dirt against restricted three year old company a "nice prep" for a race on synthetic against older?

blackthroatedwind 09-15-2008 03:59 PM

He's not running in the Super Derby.

dalakhani 09-15-2008 04:03 PM

where is he going?

Norfolk 09-15-2008 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by dalakhani
where is he going?

Maybe The Jerome Handicap ???

jballscalls 09-15-2008 05:46 PM

Is he coming to Portland for the Mt. Hood Stakes?? 20k for 3 year olds!

blackthroatedwind 09-15-2008 05:51 PM

I would assume he is going to the JCGC.

hrfan 09-15-2008 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by dalakhani
where is he going?

My source is realiable that he is coming to Belmont, with MR. Calvin Borel coming in to ride. Confirmed today !!

hrfan 09-15-2008 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
What's with the MR. Calvin Borel stuff?

He's a Legend.

hrfan 09-15-2008 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
He's going to have to be to get Mambo In Seattle to beat Curlin.

Curlins last 3 have not been Curlin like performances, if he regresses at all in this spot, Mambo can beat win

hrfan 09-15-2008 07:13 PM

yup

hrfan 09-15-2008 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
last word

you can have it on this one :)

freddymo 09-15-2008 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by hrfan
Curlins last 3 have not been Curlin like performances, if he regresses at all in this spot, Mambo can beat win

I kind of agree Curlin is the most beatable superstar... Other then the ordinary very good Ashado who is a worse Super horse then Churlin

hrfan 09-15-2008 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by freddymo
I kind of agree Curlin is the most beatable superstar... Other then the ordinary very good Ashado who is a worse Super horse then Churlin

Im not even sure its Curlin in my mind, as much as it is Mambo, i think he is a very very good horse, with a big future.

blackthroatedwind 09-15-2008 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
What's with the MR. Calvin Borel stuff?


I keep thinking of that kid in " Almost Famous ".......




It's all happening!

hoovesupsideyourhead 09-15-2008 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
I keep thinking of that kid in " Almost Famous ".......




It's all happening!

great movie imo just re watched it..the other day

Quiet Chris 09-15-2008 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by hrfan
Curlins last 3 have not been Curlin like performances, if he regresses at all in this spot, Mambo can beat win

Highly unlikely. Personally I would love to see him get soundly beaten and then run in the BCC. I think he may take to the synthetic at a huge price.

I wonder if they are doing this because they have plans of retiring him at the end of the year and they are looking for that race that defines him.

hrfan 09-15-2008 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Quiet Chris
Highly unlikely. Personally I would love to see him get soundly beaten and then run in the BCC. I think he may take to the synthetic at a huge price.

I wonder if they are doing this because they have plans of retiring him at the end of the year and they are looking for that race that defines him.


My source also says he will stay in training next year !

blackthroatedwind 09-15-2008 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
Call your source and ask him what the results are for the Fairplex 7th and 8th.


KY Downs.

GBBob 09-15-2008 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
KY Downs.

you're my source there

Danzig 09-15-2008 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
He's not running in the Super Derby.

yeah, it was old news, from just after the travers. but couldn't find anything in the press more recent....

freddymo 09-15-2008 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by GBBob
you're my source there

Not sure BTW knows what state KY Downs is in.

The man has trouble with anything not in NY

hrfan 09-15-2008 10:44 PM

lookin boy ?

blackthroatedwind 09-15-2008 11:47 PM

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Originally Posted by freddymo
Not sure BTW knows what state KY Downs is in.

The man has trouble with anything not in NY


I crushed KY Downs like a grape today.

docicu3 09-15-2008 11:59 PM

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Originally Posted by hoovesupsideyourhead
great movie imo just re watched it..the other day

From the era that The Rolling Stone really meant something in out culture. i loved the old news paper version with the Fear and Loathing Dude Hunter S Thompson or something like that

Smooth Operator 09-16-2008 10:16 AM

Yo Quiet Chris, are the half-wits over at thoroughbred champions still trying to figure out whether or not anabolic steroids enhance performance? lol

Witch-lejacket banned me a few weeks ago because I wasn't being 'pleasant' enough for the cranky hags (like "Regret", "ShuveesGirl", and "CoronadosQuest") that frequent that place.

By the way, I think she uses the name "Regret" because she knows that you'll regret losing several hundred brain cells every time you read her mindless drivel. lol




Ron Jon LIVES!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ... and he hates every stinkin' one of them. :D

RolloTomasi 09-16-2008 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Quiet Chris
I think he may take to the synthetic at a huge price.

Didn't Mambo In Seattle get beat a couple of times in allowance races at Keeneland?


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