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philcski 09-08-2008 10:04 AM

football gambling tonight
 
how exactly are the broncos a 3 point favorite in this game? last time they played, last december, the raiders pounded them pretty comfortably, neither team has changed materially since (if anything, the addition of mcfadden, a potential stud, swings it even more in the raiders' favor) and we saw yesterday the power of homefield advantage. i have a (confirmed) theory that the raiders are consistently the worst team ATS long-term because vegas shades their lines against them, since the legions of raider fans show up en masse to the sportsbook and ALWAYS bet their team. that said, what am i missing here???

hoovesupsideyourhead 09-08-2008 10:21 AM

broncos cover..so do the vikes ... easy imo

Scav 09-08-2008 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by hoovesupsideyourhead
broncos cover..so do the vikes ... easy imo

I need to give you props on the Bears, you kept the faith, I am a douche bag for even consider them as a bad team.

2MinsToPost 09-08-2008 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Scav
I need to give you props on the Bears, you kept the faith, I am a douche bag for even consider them as a bad team.

somebody predicted it was gonna be close hummmmmmmmmmmm...........

Jeff Saturday (center) being out for the Colts and Peyton rusty had loss written all ove rit. Your Bears showed up and your QB looks good. Give em hell in the NFC this year.

Antitrust32 09-08-2008 11:26 AM

Bears looked good yesterday! There defense looked like that of 2 years ago..

That being said, The EAGLES looked like the BEST team in the NFL yesterday against the hapless Rams. Go Birds! They ALWAYS suck the first game of the season and to see them come out like that Confirmed my belief.

Also, DeShawn Jackson (sp??) ROOKIE of the YEAR!

hoovesupsideyourhead 09-08-2008 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by 2MinsToPost
somebody predicted it was gonna be close hummmmmmmmmmmm...........

Jeff Saturday (center) being out for the Colts and Peyton rusty had loss written all ove rit. Your Bears showed up and your QB looks good. Give em hell in the NFC this year.

common dude when you get fn blown off the ball on both sides its not just rust...are o line has tightened up..hester will be a good factor..they just served notice..you play the bears this year..your gonna get hit..thus blowing out the superstar reciver crap..t..o moss they will be getting hit..adia just now getting his vision back...:zz:

ddthetide 09-08-2008 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Antitrust32
Bears looked good yesterday! There defense looked like that of 2 years ago..

That being said, The EAGLES looked like the BEST team in the NFL yesterday against the hapless Rams.

you must not have seen the pounding the Steelers put on the texans or the beating the cowboys put on the browns. more than once, romo was reading the paper before he threw the ball.

Antitrust32 09-08-2008 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by ddthetide
you must not have seen the pounding the Steelers put on the texans or the beating the cowboys put on the browns. more than once, romo was reading the paper before he threw the ball.

yeah the steelers looked good too... as for the cowboys.. I cant possibly and nor will I ever say a nice thing about them.

They will get exposed next Monday night... ;)

philcski 09-08-2008 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by hoovesupsideyourhead
common dude when you get fn blown off the ball on both sides its not just rust...are o line has tightened up..hester will be a good factor..they just served notice..you play the bears this year..your gonna get hit..thus blowing out the superstar reciver crap..t..o moss they will be getting hit..adia just now getting his vision back...:zz:

Don't go crazy overboard... da Bears are better than what people thought they might be but I don't think they're a playoff team. I think the Colts took more of a step back than people want to admit.

ddthetide 09-08-2008 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by hoovesupsideyourhead
common dude when you get fn blown off the ball on both sides its not just rust...are o line has tightened up..hester will be a good factor..they just served notice..you play the bears this year..your gonna get hit..thus blowing out the superstar reciver crap..t..o moss they will be getting hit..adia just now getting his vision back...:zz:

bears offense played a really nice game last night. they'll be much better than anyone thought. as long as orton is at qb and they keep running the ball.

ddthetide 09-08-2008 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by philcski
Don't go crazy overboard... da Bears are better than what people thought they might be but I don't think they're a playoff team. I think the Colts took more of a step back than people want to admit.

saturday missing from the OL will have a bigger impact than anyone will know. he made most or all the line calls and manning was out of wack last night, although he made a number of nice throws.

hoovesupsideyourhead 09-08-2008 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by philcski
Don't go crazy overboard... da Bears are better than what people thought they might be but I don't think they're a playoff team. I think the Colts took more of a step back than people want to admit.

orton plays smart..they should do well. not overboard..but the div should be in the sights..

ateamstupid 09-08-2008 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by hoovesupsideyourhead
broncos cover..so do the vikes ... easy imo

I love the Vikings tonight as well. I also think Denver covers, but it'll be close. Now all I need is somewhere to bet them..

Scav 09-08-2008 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid
I love the Vikings tonight as well. I also think Denver covers, but it'll be close. Now all I need is somewhere to bet them..

I am sure there are plenty of opportunities in your area to get down on a game or two

hoovesupsideyourhead 09-08-2008 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid
I love the Vikings tonight as well. I also think Denver covers, but it'll be close. Now all I need is somewhere to bet them..

diamond sports.. or vinny on da corner..

ateamstupid 09-08-2008 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Scav
I am sure there are plenty of opportunities in your area to get down on a game or two

:rolleyes:

docicu3 09-08-2008 01:07 PM

Pants does something that goes unappreciated just about every week.....he plays the money line not the points. Point bets are very difficult to beat long term on spreads > 3. If you really like a team play the money line and take the points out of the equation to avoid those late covers that kill a season.

-BT- 09-08-2008 01:28 PM

broncos cover and aaron rodgers covers

-bt-

GBBob 09-08-2008 01:46 PM

This is a great site for following line trends and just general betting info.

http://www.scoresandodds.com

philcski 09-08-2008 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by GBBob
This is a great site for following line trends and just general betting info.

http://www.scoresandodds.com

so is this one:
simonracing.blogspot.com... check cannonshell.com sidebar

docicu3 09-08-2008 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by philcski
so is this one:
simonracing.blogspot.com... check cannonshell.com sidebar


I think the importance of this game to the Raiders tonight is underestimated. This remains the Al Davis Super Bowl right out of the box.....by beating arch rival Denver at home the Raiders will earn the most significant victory that is potentially achievable....Davis has made this one game the litmus test for this coaching staff. Go against your instincts and take the Raiders to win the game outright unless the line continues to move past 4. Raiders win tonight....play the trend which has Denver under Mike the Madman horrendously inept on the road in openers.

pgardn 09-08-2008 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by philcski
how exactly are the broncos a 3 point favorite in this game? last time they played, last december, the raiders pounded them pretty comfortably, neither team has changed materially since (if anything, the addition of mcfadden, a potential stud, swings it even more in the raiders' favor) and we saw yesterday the power of homefield advantage. i have a (confirmed) theory that the raiders are consistently the worst team ATS long-term because vegas shades their lines against them, since the legions of raider fans show up en masse to the sportsbook and ALWAYS bet their team. that said, what am i missing here???

Maybe Al Davis.

Raiders inept nature has made some kin bucks.
I adhere to your theory. I did think it would be around even.

Cannon Shell 09-08-2008 06:08 PM

cannonshell.com has:

GB -3 Minn O/U 37.5

Den -3.5 Oak O/U 42

:$: :$:

dalakhani 09-08-2008 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
cannonshell.com has:

GB -3 Minn O/U 37.5

Den -3.5 Oak O/U 42

:$: :$:

+3.5? ive got to take the hook. oakland plus 3.5. Any money lines at cannonshell.com?

GBBob 09-08-2008 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
cannonshell.com has:

GB -3 Minn O/U 37.5

Den -3.5 Oak O/U 42

:$: :$:

Aaron Rodgers..yeah baby

philcski 09-08-2008 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by GBBob
Aaron Rodgers..yeah baby

aren't you at the game?

GBBob 09-08-2008 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by philcski
aren't you at the game?

No..i have to leave for Vegas at 7AM tomorrow and I'm too old for turning it around that quickly:)

philcski 09-08-2008 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by GBBob
No..i have to leave for Vegas at 7AM tomorrow and I'm too old for turning it around that quickly:)

:rolleyes: CRY ME A RIVER!!!! You could have slept on the plane... it's VEGAS as soon as you walk off the plane it's any energy jolt

philcski 09-08-2008 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
cannonshell.com has:

GB -3 Minn O/U 37.5

Den -3.5 Oak O/U 42

:$: :$:

i'll take a dime on da RAIDAZZZZZ


as in $.10

hoovesupsideyourhead 09-08-2008 08:11 PM

the vikes need some d...

GBBob 09-08-2008 08:36 PM

should have taken one more shot in the endzone

ateamstupid 09-08-2008 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by GBBob
should have taken one more shot in the endzone

LOL, take off the skirt McCarthy. The missed field goal was a lock after that.

GBBob 09-08-2008 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid
LOL, take off the skirt McCarthy. The missed field goal was a lock after that.

i know...fate

Packers should just put 8 in the box and dare Minn to throw

GBBob 09-08-2008 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by GBBob
i know...fate

Packers should just put 8 in the box and dare Minn to throw

or not

3kings 09-08-2008 09:01 PM

I'm having a difficult time adjusting to a Green Bay QB with a double digit #. Who was the last Lynn Dickey?

GBBob 09-08-2008 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by 3kings
I'm having a difficult time adjusting to a Green Bay QB with a double digit #. Who was the last Lynn Dickey?

You might beat our Pack, but you can't lick our Dickey

Cannon Shell 09-08-2008 09:09 PM

Did people really pick the Vikings to go to the Super Bowl? Did they not realize that Toiletbowl Jackson was still the QB?

Cannon Shell 09-08-2008 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by GBBob
You might beat our Pack, but you can't lick our Dickey

stop!!!!!

GBBob 09-08-2008 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
stop!!!!!

i can't help myself...bedlam in Arl Hts

Hickory Hill Hoff 09-08-2008 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
Did people really pick the Vikings to go to the Super Bowl? Did they not realize that Toiletbowl Jackson was still the QB?

:o ....Cowboys look the best, but figured Romo would find someway to screw things up..... quite eventful first week.


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