Derby Trail Forums

Derby Trail Forums (http://www.derbytrail.com/forums/index.php)
-   The Paddock (http://www.derbytrail.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=2)
-   -   Tale Of Akati Prado almost cost CJ race (http://www.derbytrail.com/forums/showthread.php?t=24696)

sdjcom 08-23-2008 07:42 PM

Tale Of Akati Prado almost cost CJ race
 
I say CJ would have won by 5 lenghts if not knock off stride and sideways by
Prado and piece of crap TOK. Crush the win but missed my exacta. Hope you
all won .

Gauchos0522 08-23-2008 07:45 PM

Are you sure you watched the same race as I did?

ateamstupid 08-23-2008 07:48 PM

Tale of Ekati is no piece of crap, he's just been made to look like one because of horrible mismanagement.

Gauchos0522 08-23-2008 07:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ateamstupid
Tale of Ekati is no piece of crap, he's just been made to look like one because of horrible mismanagement.

With the move he made in the Jim Dandy moving into the teeth of that fast pace I was hoping Tagg would cut him back to the 7f for the King's Bishop where I think he would have fit pretty well with that group.

sdjcom 08-23-2008 07:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gauchos0522
Are you sure you watched the same race as I did?

I watch the replay just now agin on twin spires yes #1 TOA go watch and check him out on the rail coming out of final turn and tell me what you think?

Gauchos0522 08-23-2008 07:57 PM

I saw that they brushed which caused CJ to come out and almost end Macho Again's life right there but you really think he would have won by 5 if that had not happened? Consider the Colonel lucky to get this one cause he had a much easier trip regardless of that little bit of trouble than Mambo had.

ateamstupid 08-23-2008 08:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gauchos0522
With the move he made in the Jim Dandy moving into the teeth of that fast pace I was hoping Tagg would cut him back to the 7f for the King's Bishop where I think he would have fit pretty well with that group.

He shouldve been cut back to one turn after the Derby. I said it after the race, how Tagg watched that horse finish in the Derby and thought "more distance", I can't fathom. Hopefully he's not too screwed up to still be a good one-turn horse.

Gauchos0522 08-23-2008 08:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ateamstupid
He shouldve been cut back to one turn after the Derby. I said it after the race, how Tagg watched that horse finish in the Derby and thought "more distance", I can't fathom. Hopefully he's not too screwed up to still be a good one-turn horse.

If Visionaire can do it...:D

sdjcom 08-23-2008 08:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gauchos0522
I saw that they brushed which caused CJ to come out and almost end Macho Again's life right there but you really think he would have won by 5 if that had not happened? Consider the Colonel lucky to get this one cause he had a much easier trip regardless of that little bit of trouble than Mambo had.

CJ"S left hind end swung right showing he was hit from the rear side, i like CJ
because he's had only 1 race on dirt, the KY Derby, have to throw that out.
He just might end of the big horse for the JGC and fall races, maybe even BC.
Remenber i said this.

ArlJim78 08-23-2008 09:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sdjcom
CJ"S left hind end swung right showing he was hit from the rear side, i like CJ
because he's had only 1 race on dirt, the KY Derby, have to throw that out.
He just might end of the big horse for the JGC and fall races, maybe even BC.
Remenber i said this.

don't worry, i wrote it down.

eajinabi 08-23-2008 10:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ateamstupid
Tale of Ekati is no piece of crap, he's just been made to look like one because of horrible mismanagement.

You say he needs better connections??

ateamstupid 08-23-2008 11:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eajinabi
You say he needs better connections??

Name the last successful sprinter Tagg has campaigned.

hrfan 08-23-2008 11:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sdjcom
I say CJ would have won by 5 lenghts if not knock off stride and sideways by
Prado and piece of crap TOK. Crush the win but missed my exacta. Hope you
all won .

this is a joke, 5 lenghts, mambo was the best, slow pace, gigantic run from well out of it, only serious horse coming out of the travers

Indian Charlie 08-23-2008 11:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hrfan
this is a joke, 5 lenghts, mambo was the best, slow pace, gigantic run from well out of it, only serious horse coming out of the travers

oh, i dont know pg, i think harlem rocker sans the criminally bad ride would have had a look. he might be ok, for this crop at least.

Danzig 08-23-2008 11:17 PM

how can mambo be the only good horse to come out of this race? col john, until today, did his only good running on poly-and he also had a rough race today, and still managed to win it, even if the margin was small, he still won the thing.

hi_im_god 08-23-2008 11:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sdjcom
CJ"S left hind end swung right showing he was hit from the rear side, i like CJ
because he's had only 1 race on dirt, the KY Derby, have to throw that out.
He just might end of the big horse for the JGC and fall races, maybe even BC.
Remenber i said this.

could you post Like This Again?

It's Been A Long Time.

It Was Very Interesting Imagining How Much Time It Took To Compose Each Post And I Used To Think "Why Is This Guy Choosing Such A Difficult Affectation When There Are Other Easier Ways Of oh good christ i'm even annoying myself.

thanks for stopping that crap.

VOL JACK 08-24-2008 12:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ateamstupid
Tale of Ekati is no piece of crap, he's just been made to look like one because of horrible mismanagement.

I agree, he needs to be running for 50k.

Indian Charlie 08-24-2008 01:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hi_im_god
could you post Like This Again?

It's Been A Long Time.

It Was Very Interesting Imagining How Much Time It Took To Compose Each Post And I Used To Think "Why Is This Guy Choosing Such A Difficult Affectation When There Are Other Easier Ways Of oh good christ i'm even annoying myself.

thanks for stopping that crap.

yeah, seriously, thank you for not posting that way any more sjdcom dude.

i wanted to wring your neck every time i just saw your post.

RolloTomasi 08-24-2008 08:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sdjcom
I say CJ would have won by 5 lenghts if not knock off stride and sideways by
Prado and piece of crap TOK. Crush the win but missed my exacta. Hope you
all won .

I'll say there's no reason for you to call Tale Of Ekati a name like that. Look at what he has accomplish after an ill-suited 3yo campaign. look at his graded stakes wins purse money, etc.. Do you know him personally? If not they statment is out of line.

Ridiculous.

TitanSooner 08-24-2008 09:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RolloTomasi
Do you know him personally? If not they statment is out of line.

Ridiculous.

Yeah.. they go way back.. they like to call each other names.

ateamstupid 08-24-2008 02:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RolloTomasi
I'll say there's no reason for you to call Tale Of Ekati a name like that. Look at what he has accomplish after an ill-suited 3yo campaign. look at his graded stakes wins purse money, etc.. Do you know him personally? If not they statment is out of line.

Ridiculous.

He had a rough life too.

sdjcom 08-24-2008 02:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie
yeah, seriously, thank you for not posting that way any more sjdcom dude.

i wanted to wring your neck every time i just saw your post.

My typing lessons must be working. lol

sdjcom 08-24-2008 02:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hi_im_god
could you post Like This Again?

It's Been A Long Time.

It Was Very Interesting Imagining How Much Time It Took To Compose Each Post And I Used To Think "Why Is This Guy Choosing Such A Difficult Affectation When There Are Other Easier Ways Of oh good christ i'm even annoying myself.

thanks for stopping that crap.

You are welcome.

sdjcom 08-24-2008 02:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hrfan
this is a joke, 5 lenghts, mambo was the best, slow pace, gigantic run from well out of it, only serious horse coming out of the travers

Let's see now, CJ had big trouble like Mambo, knock side ways jockey pull up
for a second, came back Mambo had his chance to get by CJ, he could'nt and finish second, however Mambo is only serious horse? He lost to CJ so he is only second serious horse. lol

Indian Charlie 08-24-2008 03:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sdjcom
Let's see now, CJ had big trouble like Mambo, knock side ways jockey pull up
for a second, came back Mambo had his chance to get by CJ, he could'nt and finish second, however Mambo is only serious horse? He lost to CJ so he is only second serious horse. lol

I nominate this post for post of the century.

Has PG ever been quoted by a PG wannabe before this?

sdjcom 08-24-2008 03:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ateamstupid
Tale of Ekati is no piece of crap, he's just been made to look like one because of horrible mismanagement.

I should'nt have said that about TOE I was just pissed that he almost took CJ out and some other horses. However i don't think Tagg has any 11/4 mile horses in his barn, 3 yr olds that is. I should have blame Prado for poor ride or maybe TOE just got away from him in final turn. Anyway i cash the win but did not have Mambo Jambo for the exacta.

Pedigree Ann 08-24-2008 08:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danzig
how can mambo be the only good horse to come out of this race? col john, until today, did his only good running on poly-and he also had a rough race today, and still managed to win it, even if the margin was small, he still won the thing.

Colonel John has run on Poly exactly once and he lost. He has run on the All-Weather surface at Santa Anita and Hollywood (whose trademarked name escapes me) and won 3 of 6, or 50%; his percentage on traditional dirt is 1 for 2, or 50%.

I know many of you use Poly as a catchall to describe any AW surface, but they are not the same stuff and shouldn't be treated as such in discussion or in handicapping. Not even all the Poly tracks play the same way (AP vs Kee).

Danzig 08-24-2008 09:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pedigree Ann
Colonel John has run on Poly exactly once and he lost. He has run on the All-Weather surface at Santa Anita and Hollywood (whose trademarked name escapes me) and won 3 of 6, or 50%; his percentage on traditional dirt is 1 for 2, or 50%.

I know many of you use Poly as a catchall to describe any AW surface, but they are not the same stuff and shouldn't be treated as such in discussion or in handicapping. Not even all the Poly tracks play the same way (AP vs Kee).

:rolleyes:

cakes44 08-25-2008 07:24 AM

I'm kind of surprised Tale of Ekati hasn't tried the turf yet. Tagg always seems to lean that way with his horses anyway, and there is so much $$ to be had for 3 yr olds on the turf. I know he doesn't have that explosive turn of foot, but neither did Nobiz Like Shobiz, and Tagg turned him into a decent one. I'll take TOE's turf pedigree over NLS as well.

RolloTomasi 08-25-2008 08:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cakes44
I'm kind of surprised Tale of Ekati hasn't tried the turf yet. Tagg always seems to lean that way with his horses anyway, and there is so much $$ to be had for 3 yr olds on the turf. I know he doesn't have that explosive turn of foot, but neither did Nobiz Like Shobiz, and Tagg turned him into a decent one. I'll take TOE's turf pedigree over NLS as well.

Turf is a possibility, but personally, I don't see why he doesn't cut back in distance. His best race is still the Futurity, Tale Of The Cat's--like Grand Slam's--usually bottom out at a mile, and he's made sharp middle moves in at least his last 2 route races only to hang/tire through the lane--typical of a late running sprinter.

He was nominated to the King's Bishop. Maybe he'll show up for the Jerome.

hi_im_god 08-25-2008 08:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pedigree Ann
Colonel John has run on Poly exactly once and he lost. He has run on the All-Weather surface at Santa Anita and Hollywood (whose trademarked name escapes me) and won 3 of 6, or 50%; his percentage on traditional dirt is 1 for 2, or 50%.

I know many of you use Poly as a catchall to describe any AW surface, but they are not the same stuff and shouldn't be treated as such in discussion or in handicapping. Not even all the Poly tracks play the same way (AP vs Kee).

cushiontrack


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 12:00 AM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.