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TheSpyder 08-23-2008 02:35 PM

Slambino
 
Omg 88-1

trifecta124 08-23-2008 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by TheSpyder
Omg 88-1

The AE's are kicking ass on the Saratoga turf today.

eajinabi 08-23-2008 02:41 PM

Anyone had the $761,594 $1 Super??????

TheSpyder 08-23-2008 02:41 PM

Anyone listening to Steve the other day and followed the suggestion that they should be bet would make a fortune today!

Spyder

blackthroatedwind 08-23-2008 06:28 PM

I told people to follow Slambino after I made him my pick of the day last time he ran.

Gauchos0522 08-23-2008 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by eajinabi
Anyone had the $761,594 $1 Super??????

you didn't? :D

Round Pen 08-23-2008 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by eajinabi
Anyone had the $761,594 $1 Super??????


Noboday had a $1 Super there was only 200k in the pool so it looks like there were a couple of .10 cent Supers out there. Still for a dime 70k plus, I just know it was not me

gales0678 08-23-2008 08:50 PM

alexander on the gra$$

TheSpyder 08-24-2008 05:23 AM

So what do you have for today?
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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
I told people to follow Slambino after I made him my pick of the day last time he ran.


hrfan 08-26-2008 01:41 AM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
I told people to follow Slambino after I made him my pick of the day last time he ran.

What does this mean ? Did you bet him back this time, i watched you on Multiple handicapping shows Saturday morning, and you did not mention Slambino once.

blackthroatedwind 08-26-2008 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by hrfan
What does this mean ? Did you bet him back this time, i watched you on Multiple handicapping shows Saturday morning, and you did not mention Slambino once.



Congratulations. This is your dumbest post ever. It was hard...but you succeeded.

Indian Charlie 08-26-2008 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
Congratulations. This is your dumbest post ever. It was hard...but you succeeded.

Oh, I don't know about that. I think you are just biased towards this one because of him inferring you are a redboarder.

It's certainly a classic of his, but really, with so many gems to choose from, I think it's hard to single out just one.

engine ONE 08-26-2008 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
I told people to follow Slambino after I made him my pick of the day last time he ran.

And a blind squirrel finds a nut very now and then also. Indian Charlie told me to say hi to ya..

Engine

blackthroatedwind 08-26-2008 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Indian Charlie
Oh, I don't know about that. I think you are just biased towards this one because of him inferring you are a redboarder.

It's certainly a classic of his, but really, with so many gems to choose from, I think it's hard to single out just one.


It's dumb because I wasn't on any shows Saturday.

stonegossard 08-26-2008 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
It's dumb because I wasn't on any shows Saturday.

Thats no excuse. You should have interupted the Siro's show on Saturday to make a special announcement about this horse. Maybe even paid for an airplane to pull a banner proclaiming you have mentioned this horse before. I mean really...can you expect people to ACTUALLY remember things you said in the past.....geez.

Indian Charlie 08-26-2008 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
It's dumb because I wasn't on any shows Saturday.


You realize, don't you, that this means PG is having dreams about you?

Danzig 08-26-2008 08:46 PM

and now andy will be having nightmares...

Handicappy 08-26-2008 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by hrfan
What does this mean ? Did you bet him back this time, i watched you on Multiple handicapping shows Saturday morning, and you did not mention Slambino once.

Silly, he couldn't have been on any shows or he would have mentioned the show, who complimented him on the show and how many times he's been on TV. The fact that he excluded all that means he wasn't on TV that Saturday. Get with the program here.

docicu3 08-26-2008 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig
and now andy will be having nightmares...


....more likely about not betting a horse that paid like this he didn't get down on after having given it out previously. Hooves' had Sambino on his board as well. Sometimes the races with the best value are hidden in cards like Saturday unfortunately as is my lot the last month or so I have this second place finishers zeroed in on consistently. If I had half a brain I'd wheel the top end until this funk passes but that would make too much sense. My hats off to those that saw this one......

gales0678 08-27-2008 08:04 AM

fractions set up real well for him in this race

CSC 08-27-2008 10:03 AM

I listen to the show now and then, I included Shakis on my Pick 3 - 4 tickets because I happened to listening that day to Steve Crist. That was a rare gem, however I'm not sure if the show helps that much in all honesty, it seems almost every horse is named at times and that sort of defeats the purpose of singling out a horse you like. It is entertaining though.

King Glorious 08-27-2008 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by CSC
I listen to the show now and then, I included Shakis on my Pick 3 - 4 tickets because I happened to listening that day to Steve Crist. That was a rare gem, however I'm not sure if the show helps that much in all honesty, it seems almost every horse is named at times and that sort of defeats the purpose of singling out a horse you like. It is entertaining though.

That reminds me of a few weeks ago when I was listening to one of the weekend radio shows from Del Mar and the host had three different guests on who gave their top selections from the same race. They gave three different horses. The next morning, the host was saying "if u listened to our show yesterday, we gave that one to you." Classic.

blackthroatedwind 09-10-2008 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by docicu3
....more likely about not betting a horse that paid like this he didn't get down on after having given it out previously. Hooves' had Sambino on his board as well. Sometimes the races with the best value are hidden in cards like Saturday unfortunately as is my lot the last month or so I have this second place finishers zeroed in on consistently. If I had half a brain I'd wheel the top end until this funk passes but that would make too much sense. My hats off to those that saw this one......


I never know what hidden gems I can find on this board.

If it makes you feel better I had the exacta.

ateamstupid 09-10-2008 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
I never know what hidden gems I can find on this board.

If it makes you feel better I had the exacta.

Jesus, how much did it pay?

Kasept 09-10-2008 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid
Jesus, how much did it pay?

The $2 Exacta was $2,565.00.

And I saw Andy after that race as we were on the way to the paddock and he was kicking himself for not having it MORE...

philcski 09-10-2008 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid
Jesus, how much did it pay?

$2,565 for two buckaroos

docicu3 09-10-2008 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
I never know what hidden gems I can find on this board.

If it makes you feel better I had the exacta.

Wow.....Sorry that kept you up all night searching my posts . Congrats on the over 2 thousand dollar exacta per $2 paid if memory serves. Red Boarding is very lucrative on occasion. If your on today I'll see your selections there, if not why don't you post your winners before the races today so we all can learn from them.
GL to you this afternoon and I mean that sincerely.

Late Fires 09-10-2008 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by docicu3
Wow.....Sorry that kept you up all night searching my posts . Congrats on the thousand dollar exacta per $2 paid if memory serves. Red Boarding is very lucrative on occasion. If your on today I'll see your selections there, if not why don't you post your winners before the races today so we all can learn from them.
GL to you this afternoon and I mean that sincerely.

With all due respect, because I know you gave out a 7/2 or 9/2 winner on the board once (I only know that because you've made sure to note it on multiple occasions), Andy told people to watch this horse more than once publicly and flat out stated that the horse would win and pay a big price in a turf race. Short of him actually betting the race for you, I'm not sure what more you want.

I've learned that it does pay to actually listen and try to understand people like Andy and the fat man, because their opinions always have a strong explanation behind them, which you can learn from whether you agree with it or not. I have a lot to learn about handicapping and betting, but I know both of those guys have helped me.

That said, I would encourage you to continue to take shots at both of them while relying on speed figures, DRF quick sheets and jockey angles. That way, I’m confident that there will still be value on horses like Slambino. Good luck.

MISTERGEE 09-10-2008 10:45 AM

to be fair wasnt andy on at the track that very day.I believe he was. lets just ask if he had the horse in his top 4 that was given out over the track monitors?

docicu3 09-10-2008 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Late Fires
With all due respect, because I know you gave out a 7/2 or 9/2 winner on the board once (I only know that because you've made sure to note it on multiple occasions), Andy told people to watch this horse more than once publicly and flat out stated that the horse would win and pay a big price in a turf race. Short of him actually betting the race for you, I'm not sure what more you want.

I've learned that it does pay to actually listen and try to understand people like Andy and the fat man, because their opinions always have a strong explanation behind them, which you can learn from whether you agree with it or not. I have a lot to learn about handicapping and betting, but I know both of those guys have helped me.

That said, I would encourage you to continue to take shots at both of them while relying on speed figures, DRF quick sheets and jockey angles. That way, I’m confident that there will still be value on horses like Slambino. Good luck.



Thanks for the info .....The above has to do with why you shouldn't toss obvious horses in multi race bets, not an approach to picking winners as it was in a P6 thread. Pick up a copy of "Exotic Betting" if you would like to know more about that one.

If you over emphasize any single 'cappin approach (trips) in this example, IMO you will spend your life as an ATM machine for the pools. I suggest a wider scope of information with weighted insight based on the variables of the day like......today speed on the turf should do well with a yielding turf course and changes to the inner with tighter turns and the rails at 18 feet making it tougher to close.

It's too bad the exchange above was public as it really was personal with my own inappropriate participation responsible for a great deal of it. Having said that I take offense to 1) bullies I have seen continuously ridicule others here especially newcommers 2) players who don't take responsibility for bad betting blaming everyone from jockey's to bad trips to replay angles for losing.

My comments have to do more with the above than the anything else. I need to work on not getting so irritated but that's another story....

docicu3 09-10-2008 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by MISTERGEE
to be fair wasnt andy on at the track that very day.I believe he was. lets just ask if he had the horse in his top 4 that was given out over the track monitors?


He wasn't on that day but I believe him about betting that exacta he's not like the kind of guy to post a BS pick. What's more interesting is that he had the 13 underneath as he's not a wheel guy and the #13 was a fairly long one as well. I think this was the race that paid like $75K for a dime super.

hoovesupsideyourhead 09-10-2008 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Kasept
The $2 Exacta was $2,565.00.

And I saw Andy after that race as we were on the way to the paddock and he was kicking himself for not having it MORE...

the pick 3s payed better.:D

docicu3 09-10-2008 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
Doc, you seem like a nice enough guy. Having said that, your issue seems to be with The Fat Man. I can't stand him myself (hope he sees that, although I'm probably on his iggy list :rolleyes: ), but it is hard to argue he's a sharp player. Does he cash a lot, I don't know and frankly I don't care. He's tough to stomach, that I agree with.

I can tell you with certainty though that Andy has followed Slambino since his first turf start. He was the one that turned me on to him. Of course I bet him everytime except when he won, but that's a whole other issue. And the time before Travers Day, he gave him out over the air. He wasn't on Travers Day, so it would have been difficult for him to give him out over the air. I won't speak to the personal stuff, because I am as guilty as anyone here of getting nasty, but your anger seems to be misplaced. Just my 2 cents.

I agree completelyon both counts and am trying to say such....1) Fatman 2)Andy 3) anger is pretty outragous .....true Dat all of it....and this is my last comment on this one

stonegossard 09-10-2008 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
Doc, you seem like a nice enough guy. Having said that, your issue seems to be with The Fat Man. I can't stand him myself (hope he sees that, although I'm probably on his iggy list :rolleyes: ), but it is hard to argue he's a sharp player. Does he cash a lot, I don't know and frankly I don't care. He's tough to stomach, that I agree with.

I can tell you with certainty though that Andy has followed Slambino since his first turf start. He was the one that turned me on to him. Of course I bet him everytime except when he won, but that's a whole other issue. And the time before Travers Day, he gave him out over the air. He wasn't on Travers Day, so it would have been difficult for him to give him out over the air. I won't speak to the personal stuff, because I am as guilty as anyone here of getting nasty, but your anger seems to be misplaced. Just my 2 cents.


Take your 2 cents and shove em you know where..............

Indian Charlie 09-10-2008 04:05 PM

An AP Indy half to Slambino sold today for 35k!

stonegossard 09-10-2008 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
:eek:
You're just mad that there aren't more threads about Visionaire.



There will be after he wins The Met Mile..................

blackthroatedwind 09-10-2008 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by docicu3
He wasn't on that day but I believe him about betting that exacta he's not like the kind of guy to post a BS pick. What's more interesting is that he had the 13 underneath as he's not a wheel guy and the #13 was a fairly long one as well. I think this was the race that paid like $75K for a dime super.


Actually, I keyed the second finisher and bet him to win and would have had the exacta for more if the 13 had won the photo. Believe it or not, that photo was close to the difference between my having a winning or losing meet.

docicu3 09-10-2008 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
Actually, I keyed the second finisher and bet him to win and would have had the exacta for more if the 13 had won the photo. Believe it or not, that photo was close to the difference between my having a winning or losing meet.

Oh I believe that, as I had the 13 as my key as well. The payofs on that race were life changing scores as I think the super may have paid something on the order of three quarters of a mil for a buck. Having the 2nd,3rd and 4th place finishers on a simple $24 dollar play just made things all the worse. If I had known you were all over Slambino the race before I am sure I would have had some piece of it but it is not the way the game went for me that day.

The difference between winning huge and losing seems to be awfully small most days. Like today....I didn't play the P6 as the scratches in the 7th made it a bad play for me but after hitting a nice P3 for races 6-8 from the remnants of earlier handicapping efforts then I blew a fairly large payoff by omitting the Steve A that won the nightcap. Trying to be too cute about ticket size has always been a battle for me. Unfortunately working during the most critical hours prior to racing even of you do your homework the night before has ruined more than one good previous preparation.

Well there's alway's tomorrow.....I hear there's a carryover.


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