Obama/Biden
 

he could have done much better. i'm stunned really that he went that way.

It was clearly the smart route for him to go with the more experienced running mate.

Hillary was out from the get go. IMO...mainstream Americans aren't ready to embrace that much change, that quickly (Black President/Female VP). The other 2 that were being talked about (Kaine and Bayh) seemingly lacked the experience that would have made Dems feel more comfortable with their chances come Nov.

i'm stunned as well. wasn't it biden who referred to obama as being 'clean and articulate'? for someone chasing after change, he sure picked a funny guy to help pass the message, hasn't biden been on capitol hill for years?

i strongly disagree that it was a good choice for many reasons. but first and foremost because Biden is simply not likable.

he's way more likable than hillary-satan.

I disagree with you, ArlJim, I find Biden very likable, in some of the same ways that I find McCain likable. I wanted Biden as the Veep, but they will have to endure the initial publicity of Biden's own criticism of Obama

As for Biden's remarks about Obama being the first mainstream, articulate, bright and clean African-American to run for Pres., I think many blacks understand what he's saying. Obama is no Al Sharpton

I don't like Biden...the guy is a pr*ck, plain and simple. Im just stating IMO that picking someone like him, as a long time "insider" makes more sense for the Democratic Party than someone with little experience in and around Washington, like Kaine or Bayh.

I'm not a Joe Biden historian, so I am open to hearing why Biden is so disliked by a few here(already)

Isn't he a McCain personal friend, as are the Clintons?

you say "already" like he is fresh face that we have to get to know. he's disliked because he comes a cross as a pompous knowitall who like to think he's the smartest guy in the room. he's nasty and sarcastic and at the same time has a phony smile on his face.

why don't you ask democrats why they didn't like Biden in the primary. he basically had no impact. Biden has never made a ripple on the national scene, yet Obama bypasses Clinton, who he barely beat for the nomination and has rabid national support, for a guy who scored a zero in the primary.

I have a jaded view of most politicians, especially career politcians like Biden. IMO they are self-seeking egomaniacs that quickly lose sight of the things that really matter and tend to forget the reasons they were elected, which is to serve others.

Biden
 

I totally agree with this. Aren't too many more arrogant politicians than him. He turned me off a long time ago.

arljim, I said "already" in reference to this thread, and to several people "already" weighing in with a big negative on Biden with only a handful of responses given at this time.

What politicians do some of you guys "like". If you like either of the Bush's or Cheney, I doubt we can have a constructive conversation because I find support for that trio, in any form, politically or personally, unimaginable.

I do like some aspects of McCain's personality, though I wouldn't want him to be President

Dan Quayle?:D

Sounds like a losing ticket. Alright!! Thanks, dumbocrats!

I was actually a fan of what Mark Warner was able to accomplish as Gov. of Virginia.

Why? He never married Elizabeth Taylor.

MORTE' BOOM-I-YAY!!!!!

And all the colored girls sing..














....GIMME SOME DAT WHITE SUGAH!!








Once you go MORTE'..










...you'll never go backe'.

well i guess we can't have a constructive conversation for some reason, because i do like Dick Cheney quite a bit. politically and personally, and i have no problem with either of the Bushes personally although neither was a favorite politically.

That's okay, ARLJIM, we can still talk horses on other threads.

Communication can be a bit "funny" sometimes with strangers in a chat room/internet forum. Perhaps I overstated my ability to civilly discuss politics with a Bush-Cheney supporter

I can always put up a multitude of polls on some category here on DT, find out where we all stand on issues like abortion, gay marriage, death penalty,etc.

I might be able to have a pleasant afternoon with "W.", but even at my calmest, I still think I'd take a swing at Cheney

I know better than to get into a political discussion here....just mark me down as one vote for Obama.

Biden is perfect.
He can play the attack dog while Obama remains above the fray.
Biden will go after anybody with gusto.
Classic nice guy bad guy ticket.

Covers the foreign affair hole.

but first and foremost because Biden is simply not likable

I do like Dick Cheney quite a bit

Gadzooks Batman!
The parallel's between these two are astounding, just from different parties.

Biden is a sourpuss.



I don't like Joe nor Osama or John.....I like IKE!

Ike was the man...he got away with having a mistress for most of his life while slick Willie caught hell for one little knob job!

it has a certain ring to it.

Obama bin Biden '08

what on earth do they have in common?

VP picked for presidents considered weak on foreign affairs.
Both are very opinionated and will tell one to go to hell
thus trying to maintain the good guy image of their running mate.
Both very experienced in Washington... Its a huge parallel for
diff. parties.

Hard to see I guess if you are partisan.

You dont like Biden and you do like Cheney?
I bet you also liked Tom Delay and hate Nancy Pelosi.
Cheney is so cuddly.
I dont mind getting shot in the face either.

Biden is simply not likeable but Cheney is...
Alrighty then.

John McCain and whoever the hell he picks are going to win by a landslide.

Even with Mitt?

The Mormon (I have no concern for the candidates religious preference, if any, but it seems most of the country does. Biden's Irish-Catholic they say. So am I)

Mitt, the rich pansy looking guy that McCain despises?


I think whatever choice McCain makes it will be a letdown.

Alan Keyes would be a good choice for McCain(lol), offset the race issue and secure the relgious right base

Of course, if he were to pick his good friend Hillary Clinton, would he win in a landslide despite the Christian conservatives all staying home?

OOOOOOOOOO

OOOOOOOOOO

I do like this one.



:tro: :tro: :tro: :tro:

Biden/LaBamba would have been better. Biden is the most qualified of any canadate. I think they have forgotten the South though.

Could be trouble

Spyder

Biden is a staunch liberal. I know plenty of Democrats that can't stomach Biden. If the Dems aren't fond of him, why would middle of the road voters back him. This is a huge mistake for Obama.

You may be correct. After all, he's only been elected to six Senate terms. You should expect no less than another 36 years before you think he's well regarded.

Being elected to six senate terms in a Democrat state is not the same as being center stage as a VP candidate. Obama needed to bring independent voters onto his side. Picking Biden as his VP certainly will not do that. McCain is a moderate Republican who appeals to moderate Dems. Obama added someone to his ticket who may be more Liberal than he.

I thought you wrote that Democrats don't like Biden.

I know plenty that do not. I do not live in Deleware, but I can guarantee that Deleware voters will not be deciding the presidential election this year.