red sox alert
 

1-7 since the break against winning teams

wouldn't tonight with Beckett be a very meaningful game????

Bad day for Sox fans. Get killed by Angels again, Yankees win, get Pudge and get rid of Farnsworth.

Time to put a fork in those ****ers. Nice job by the front office this year.:rolleyes:

At the moment one must admit that the Angels are odds on to win the thing this year. They deserve it......now all they have to do is get through Aug. and Sept.

Manny has ruined the chemistry of the team and will be out of Boston for less than value tomorrow or in the off season. The 2 world championships take the sting out of the BS he is responsible for but Manny is sadly mistaken if he thinks he is worth 4 years for 100 million at this stage of his career especially with the way he has handled this season.

Sox fans have nothing to bitch about. The last 3-4 years has been magical and they will make another run. Pudge can't pitch so the Yankees remain the team that Baltimore bitch slapped this weekend.

It wasn't a bad day but a horrible month for Red Sox fans...

FTFY

FTFY

Is that a good thing for them? Molina is now a far better defensive catcher and has anyone really looked at the Yankee lineup and thought their problems came from not getting enough offensive production out of the catcher spot? And knock Farnsworth all you want, I'd take him in the playoffs over most. What I remember most about the Yankees that actually won championships was the bullpen. Not the overpaid, former steroid stars that are now a shell of their former selves.

Thanks God.

Rodriguez is still a good catcher, is a far superior hitter to Molina and has extensive playoff experience. Molina is a back up period. There is a reason that Rodriguez's teams always win. Farnsworth is not a trusted pitcher. He is average at best and shaky in his last 2. Pitchers like him are easily replaceable (just look at Oakland's bullpen) but players with Rodriguez experience arent readily available. When has Farnsworth been better than a league average 7th inning guy?

BTW - Think the Mets wish they had signed Loshe?

Lohse still sucks, just a hot stretch right now. The starters have been fine, it is the bullpen that is killing them.

After sitting on their asses, management decides that the BEST MOVE they can make is trading Manny for Jason Bay.

what a ****in' JOKE!!!!

Pedro looks real old and Maine is hurt. Loshe is a better pitcher than you give him credit for and he is durable which is something that teams need right about now.

It is a very good trade for the Yanks. Don't forget that they tried to almost give Farnsworth away last year with no avail. Now at least they got someone who can contribute to the team. Molina is a good backup, but he isn't the answer for a team trying to make a run.

Jason Bay is a good player. I dont think this is a bad move, in fact it is probably a good move for them especially considering manny's attitude. Look at the numbers this year.

At one year $4.25 million he is a great deal. Boras wanted 4 years - $40 million from the Mets though which is way too much for a guy that has never had an ERA under 4.18 and was coming off two pretty terrible years. At the time I'm sure they were also expecting more than 0 starts from El Duque. I thought him and Pedro would at least get us close to a season combined.

Agreed, if they can do Manny for Bay and not have to give up any prospects it is a fantastic deal. Bay is as good as Manny now and will be an all star for years to come.

I bet you Minaya wishes now that he was paying Loshe 40 million over 4 years as opposed to the 4 year 25 million contract that he gave to Castillio. Just awful!

That one never made any sense to me.

I used to think Omar Minaya was a move up off of Phillips. I am starting to wonder.

And he wont intentionally strike out either

This offseason will be a big one for him. They are free of Pedro, Alou, and El Duque and should have about $45 million to spend if they bring back Delgado. If they buy him out for $4 million then they should have $50 million to play with. Unfortunately at that point their #4 starter will be a guy in AAA with a 5.00+ ERA. If they resign Oliver he'll take up a decent chunk of that $45 million and they'll still need a fifth starter, tons of bullpen help, and likely another OF. If he blows this offseason then it's time to move on. No one can be worse than Phillips though, Kazmir for Victor Zambrano trumps all.

My favorite was when he leaked to the N.Y. press that Todd Hundley (their leading hitter) was a drunk and then evenyually ran him out of town. I still can't believe that he is an analyst on ESPN, it just blows my mind. But then again I put on NASCAR this weekend and Brad Daugherty was the analyst, go figure!

Looks like Manny heading to Dodgers now?

Aren't we passed the deadline? The Mets would have to be crazy to let Manny clear waivers to be able to be traded after the deadline.

I saw it posted on an MLB.com site..probably pure rumor, and it would have to occured before the deadline because he would never clear waivers, you're right

mlb needs to be notified by 4pm, not us the poor public

si reporting
Manny-LA
Bay-BO
PI-buschel or two of minor leaguers

No one could need hitting this bad.

That's true, just seems amazing they got that far past 4 without it leaking.

What's the over/under on the number of threads that Scuds will be good for about this...9?

But then the Dodgers don't count.

They had to give up Moss and Hansen as well??? Wow, they must have got desperate to unload him.

Scuds will like it

The trade as reported looks like a great deal for pittsburgh, ok for Boston and a disaster for LA.

Looking at their pics, it's like Ward Cleaver being traded for Snoop Dog

joe torre and don mattingly didn't deserve being saddle with that piece of crap.

Wow. I cant believe Boston just gave up what all of that for Bay.

Like him or hate him, Manny is one of the most feared hitters in the game.

Gales, you were right.

Bye Bye Bo Sox.

Manny is slipping and his attitude sucks, he is a nightmare on the bases and his fielding is dreadful. He is going to be 37 and simply forced their hand with his actions. Bay's peak is obviously not near manny's but at this point he is a fine replacement and getting rid of Manny is addition by subtraction.

I strongly disagree. Regardless of all those factors that you mention, and i really dont debate the fielding and base running, Manny is still a force in the middle of the order. Some of Manny's value is less tangible in that sense. Even at 36, he still strikes fear as the anchor to this lineup.

If you are Girardi, are you really going to have much trouble instructing your reliever in the 8th of a tight game to pitch around Pappi to get to...Jason Bay????????????

Manny is one of the few hitters in the game that can singlehandedly power an offense. He is still that good.

Giant hole in the middle of the Sox order now.

"Take a sled and slide down slope,

Come back later for your goat,

I dont' care how you get here,

just- get here if you can"


LOL...Can't remember the lyrics...FCK PIERRE...FCK ANDRUW....Kemp in Center, Ethier in right, and funny hair in left. Latins are usually happy here. I want to be the bug on the wall when Kent and Manny meet.