Zulu Chief
 

I know he won on Wednesday but didnt realise it was by 20 Lengths :eek: That almost never happens here, and Murtagh spoke of how highly they rate him.. one to watch..

He's a half bro to Aidan O'Brien's top rated horse Hawk Wing..

OMG...there's a horse called Zulu Chief!!!!

Well I'm on the bandwagon just for his name, but your description sounds very impressive.
Long story but one of my best dogs that recently passed was called Shaka Zulu. He was big and black, in a tribe of pretty blue eyed spotted dogs, and a champion.
Any links please, pics?

good to see ya on the bandwagon..

havent found any pics yet.. there are a few news reports like this one.. ill kepp an eye and ear out for ya though..

http://sports.setanta.com/en/Sport/N.../horse-racing/

Thank you, please keep me posted if you can...
My interest was peaked I found one. He IS lovely!

http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/170420...ting-wood.html

cool well done.. i hadnt seen him before..

His bro Hawk Wing was a beauty too..

Thanks for the heads up!

He has been hyped all year, and when he made his debut at Newmarket I was pretty excited to see him, and to use a phrase that perhaps only Brock will understand, he wasn't off a yard that day, but still ran well.

They might even consider something like the Juddmonte International for him.

OK then, can you translate that for us americans....:)

When we saw a horse "wasn't off" or "wasn't off a yard" it means they weren't really there to win, either they weren't fit enough to run to their ability or they were just there to get a run under it's belt. At Newmarket, he wasn't there to win, just to get a bit of experience.

OK I see. Then that would make this race even more impressive right?
Very nice you got to see him.

how old is he and where might we see him headed next?

hes a 3year old, dont know where he is headed next, but they will probably go a bit slowly with him.. Maybe a bit like they did with Mingun..

theres a fair bit of buzz around Zulu over here,. He's entered on Thursday evenings card at Leopardstown in the G3 Meld Stakes..

Shall we try and buy him, Brock.

GREAT!!!
Can you post anymore info or a link?

I think TVG carries Leopardstown, that would be friday morning here right?

No, Thursday afternoon for you guys. We are five hours ahead of the east coast.

id have more chance buying your avatar than zulu chief..

he'll be sent off something ridiculous on thursday if he runs.

He'd be a fun horse to own, but I'm confident I'd have more fun with Nicky, not convinced she'd be cheap, either. :D

Right...I knew that if I used my mind, too much Japan racing.....:p
What time is the race, TVG usually ends British around 11 to 12 CDT.
Are either of you going to see him?

LINK PLEASE.....:)

heres the entries for it:

http://www.irish-racing.com/v4card093200807242000.htm

there are some ok types in it, reliable Lord Admiral, Moiqen, Mustameet etc..

It is my local track so I might pop down after work if he's racing.

I can't really afford to take a flight to Ireland to see one horse (although it wouldn't be the biggest surprise if I did). Brock might go

The race is 8.00pm GMT, so 3.00pm Eastern time.

Thanks for the link, what does the black box with numbers in it mean?

OH if you go please take pictures and post them to us!!!!!!!!
Yes I remember some talk of Lord Admiral, a Fernley ran here over the weekend.

:D , I don't know who lives where.....
I don't think it will be on here then, so it's up to you guys to get the info.

the black numbers are the Irish handicappers Official ratings for each horse in the race. of the 3 that dont have one, 2 are trained in Britain so the Irish handicapper wouldnt have any rating for them. The other one, Zulu Chief has only run twice and in most cases, you need to run 3 times for the handicapper to give you a rating..

He should have a rating though, because he's won a race. Or at least that's how the handicapping system works here. Three runs or as soon as they have won a race. Hence why first time out winners are eligable to run in handicaps.

im not too sure if that happens in ireland though. I believe you can request a rating from the handicapper before 3 runs, maybe APOB should do that with Zulu. he'd be a certainty off say 100 wouldnt he?

He doesn't run tomorrow. I'm guessing it's because the ground is very firm at the moment. He has many entries for forthcoming races, but none of them are before August.

Wow, surprising!

Go Lord Admiral. :)

Off topic but this is the one (tomorrow) that I can't wait for...

Good luck, Army of Angels.

Doncaster - Thursday 24 July

19:55
5 Run Crownhotel-bawtry.com Conditions Stakes
Class 3, £12000.00 added, 4yo plus, £7771.00 penalty 1m
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Form Horse Trainer Age Wgt Jockey
1(3) 247804 Dubai's Touch M Johnston 4 8 12 R Ffrench
2(5) 2720-10 Jack Junior (USA) B J Meehan 4 8 12 J Fanning
3(1) 12/612-3 Army of Angels (IRE) Saeed bin Suroor 6 8 9 K McEvoy
4(4) 480300 Dream Lodge (IRE) J G Given 4 8 9 J-P Guillambert
5(2) 0-60411 Flying Valentino G A Swinbank 4 8 4

Due to run tomorrow at the Curragh in the Gr2 Royal Whip stakes over 10furlongs.

Due to go off at 4.15GMT, so that would be 11.15EST

I can't access Guardian for some reason. :(

Benbaun runs tomorrow as well..... :) :tro: :{>:

(Just had to mention that somewhere and since you're talking about the Curragh)...

None of them certain to get a race tomorrow now. The Curragh are inspecting and if they have had the rain we are getting this second....... the card looks unlikely to go ahead :(

Abandoned :(

Sunday August 17 2008
Leopardstown 17:15 - Result
Royal Whip Stakes (group 2)
€125001 added, 3yo plus, 1m 2f, €77500 penalty,
5 ran

Going: Soft to Heavy, Heavy in places
Winning Time: 2m 12.84s 14:15 14:45 15:15 15:45 16:15 16:45 17:15 17:45 Pos. Dr. Dist. Horse Wt Jockey Trainer Age SP
1 2 King Of Rome (IRE) 9-0 J P Murtagh A P O'Brien 3 9/10 f
tracked leaders in 3rd, moderate 3rd and pushed along from halfway, closed approaching straight, led 1 1/2f out, stayed on well, comfortably opened 11/8 touched 5/6
2 4 3½ Alarazi (IRE) 9-9 M J Kinane J M Oxx 4 7/1
raced moderate 4th, ridden in closer 3rd 1 1/2f out, went 2nd over 1f out, kept on without threatening winner opened 13/2
3 5 1¾ Zulu Chief (USA) 9-0 J A Heffernan A P O'Brien 3 5/2
raced in last, closer in 3rd 2 1/2f out, soon ridden, 2nd 1 1/2f out, no extra and dropped to 3rd final furlong opened 2/1
4 1 11 Moiqen (IRE) 9-0 D P McDonogh K Prendergast 3 6/1
took keen hold and led after 2f, ridden entering straight, headed 1 1/2f out, weakened opened 9/2
5 3 7 King Of Westphalia (USA) 9-0 C O'Donoghue A P O'Brien 3 20/1
led, headed after 2f, ridden and weakened from 3f out, behind over 1f out

The result doesn't really tell the story. The race was run in an abolute bog, and right from the start you could see that Zulu Chief hated it. To be fair, he travelled well and was the last to come under any serious pressure. He wasn't given a hard race and he is definitley the horse to take out of this race.

On fast ground he still has the potential to be very good.

runs today at the Curragh in a G3 race over a mile.. It is soft to heavy ground but he is the stong odds on favourite..

its just bottomless ground at the Curragh, finished 4th, a mile behind Jumba.. good ground might will prob see him in a much better light..

Why do they keep running him on this type of ground? If they really thought as much as they say they do of him, surely they wouldn't keep risking him on such bad ground?

sold to Mike de Kock I believe...

He is the perfect horse for Dubai!