Favre...gimme a break
 

Obviously been reading all the Favre news lately with mixed emotions, but this is getting ridiculous. As much as I can admire him as a player and most of the time as a person, enough is enough. Ted Thompson and the Packers in general should not be taking any heat for this and are being put in an impossible position through no fault of their own. Even Brett's best ass-kisser, Peter King tells it like it is in this column.

You know..if he really wants to go play in the dome for the Vi-queens...go for it. The way you have handled the last 4 months, and the way you handled the last 3 offseasons was a joke. You are respected as much as anyone, but enough is enough.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/200...vre/index.html

do you really think he will play for the Vikings? I never in a million years think that this would happen. Although, I never thought Jordan would play anywhere but the Bulls, and he tried to play in Washington......

If he returns, my respect for the man plummets. He has to know that his decision to retire did not only affect him, but his family, his franchise and fans.

He's had a great career. He should leave it that way. Does he really think he's going to go out like Elway, on top??

It was a real dumb move to retire and he knows it now. The Packers are a contender. Why he wanted to retire after the season they had is beyond me.

I understand if he retires...he lose's his Wranglers gig...... :zz:

The Packers were counting the days til Favre retired. They have been wanting him gone for the past few years. Of course, they couldn't publicly come out and say that but that's what they've wanted. They've been wanting to move on but how could they force Favre out of Green Bay? And he still wanted to play so a split was difficult. I just have a gut feeling that this "retirement" and the possible comeback with another team were ways for the two parties to part company without anyone looking like the bad guy.

Isnt he under contract with the Pack?? So, if he does return, the franchise that has been 'wanting him gone for the past few years' will have to deal him or make AaRod wait another year.

I liked the way Rodgers commanded that offense when he was given the shot.

I heard he was going to the Redskins. He's the only thing left that Snyder can try that won't work.

i heard earlier on espn radio that his agent may file reinstatement papers with the nfl as soon as tomorrow. the packers then have to A- take him back. B-release him. C-trade him away.
IF i were the packers front office, i'd either trade him or release him. it's time to move on.

Well...that sure backfired

PS..I gotta' learn how to split answer posts

This is like trying to break up with your girlfriend that just won't go away. She was once the best you ever had, but now you just want to move on and get away, but she keeps calling.

I enjoyed everything brett gave the packers, but it is time to move on. He is screwing the pack and himself. He may be mentally ill or he just can't handle not having the attention. This has been going on now for 3 years and we all got over it this year. I can respect that he still feels that he wants to play as an athlete, but it will not be with the packers. If he files his paperwork I think the only choice the packers have is to release him.

What would his return do to the Pack's cap number?

$12 million, they have room for it; but that is a lot of $

If they have the room, I would think it would be a no brainer. A guy that you know can get you to the playoffs vs. the great unknown.

Wishy-washy personality aside, he is your best bet to get into the playoffs and possibly make a NYG-like run.

If they had to cut $12 million in contracts, then you would have to assess it a lot closer and probably release him.

No..they're like $25 Million under
Youngest team in the NFL (pretty sure), second youngest with Favre

You are probably right, but then what do you do with A-Rodgers? It is a no win situation for the packers. Do you screw the future and the direction of the franchise for this year and for Farve again? If so, you need to trade Rodgers most likely? If not and Farve goes on to have another great year you look terrible or if Rodgers gets hurt or plays like crap you look horrible. Favre just put the packers in a bad situation by doing this. They have all the room in the world to keep him on the roster it just really screws things up.

Also, in the past Favre made ok wide receivers great, now I think we have a great group of Wide Receivers and they are helping to make Favre look better. If and it is a big if, Rodgers is the real deal and stays healthy you could actually see a better more reliable offense than with Favre.

NFL is a now league, when you have the pieces you have to go for it. Look at the Bears for example, if they had any other QB then Grossman in the Super Bowl, they would have smoked Indy. Hell, if STEVE WALSH was the QB they would have won that game, albeit it would have been close. Look at the Bears now, two years removed, they will struggle to win 8 games, let alone make the playoffs.

I don't think Rodgers is the future. And selecting Brohm in the second round tells me the Packers front office doesn't either.

Bring Favre back, trade Rodgers and hand the team over to Brohm in two years.

This is what happens when you make a God out of a human.



Especially one who throws lots of interceptions....that no one notices.

i don't think favre should take heat for retiring. he obviously felt pressure earlier to decide asap, and i guess he didn't think it thru--we all change our minds at times, and on something this important, i think he should be given a pass.

No this is what happens when you have a hall of fame quarterback retire and you're left with a guy that works in the off-season as a china doll in a thrift store.

I think he should be given an interception since he keeps doing his confused state of mind act every year.

No one who has thrown as many stupid passes as he has should be in any hall of whatevah.

That ain't exactly Steeler fan and Jessica what'shername.

This has been going on for over 3 years. People seem to forget about this. This isn't new. When will it end? He has been given a pass by us as fans and the media more times than anyone else. No one forced him to make a decision this year. Ted Thompson begged for him to come back in McCarthy's first year as coach. Brett made his decision. His number is being retired on the first game of the year vs vikings, his locker was sent to him in MS. The packers have moved on and brett needs to do the same. He came out and told everyone he retired. I am not saying that Rodgers is the next MVP QB, etc.; but Favre is the past now. As much as I don't like it, it is time to move on.

More importantly....when is Avery Smartman coming out of retirement?

OOOOOOOOOOOO!!

Though considering he really wasn't Hall of Fame material...probably best if he stays retired. He's done enough.

Don't think I don't see what you creatures are doing over here.




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Well..actually he has spent the last 3 off seasons in GB learning the system and working out. This is HIS team now, not Favres's.

IF...and that's a huge IF considering who he is replacing, Rodgers stays healthy (and Favre doesn't come back):

1) GB will make the playoffs
2) He will throw at least 25 TDs
3) His passer rating will be 90 or better
4) And he will throw picks...probably 15 or so
5) BUT..He will rush for enough yards to be in the Top 5-7 QBs running the ball

You're probably ROFLMFAO now, but I'll find this in December either way.

and Scavs...if you want to double down on the Contreras Chicken wing bet you are about to lose, be my Guest

If you guys are under the impression that this wasnt a pre-meditated attempt by favre and his agent to get out of GB, you are extremely naive.

The lastest rumor, per the nfl radio channel, is that Favre's agent was actually calling teams immediately after the "retirement" to guage interest in Favre.

Favre wanted out. The team is not at fault and this could easily be a situation of happily ever after. Kind of like when Montana went to KC after all of the initial garbage. KC got to an AFC title game and the niners ended up winning another title.

I'll take the leap and buy your "rumors", which I don't believe. But why exactly did he want out of GB if not to retire? It's not money, it's not his relationship with McCarthey, it's not the talent surrounding him, it's not that he wants to play in a "big city"...so, what is it then? I mean...I lived in GB for four years and moved to Chicago as fast as I could so I'm not some naive Green Bay guy, but he genuinely liked living up there.

As far as the rumors go, ask solomon wilcotts because he is the one that threw it out there this morning and i believe it. Those guys dont just just throw bullshit out there...usually.

As to why, I can only speculate. One of the reasons is perhaps because this is a young team with a fairly new coaching staff that he didnt "grow up" with. How many of these guys does he have anything in common with? How many are from his "era"? How many can he go get a bite to eat with or a drink with after practice? He is close to 40. That has to factor in a little bit...although i wouldnt know how much.

How much is it just curiousity? Whats it like playing somewhere else?

How much does it have to do with how friggin cold it gets in GB during the winter?

The guys in common thing has been brought up, but it sure seems like a whole lot of plotting and scheming just to find an older guy to have a beer with. He's tight with the coaching staff...McCarthey was with him in the late 90s., Edgar Bennet is the RB coach, etc
I do get what your saying, but sometimes think that "people" are trying too hard to figure out what happened. I think he really thought he was ready to retire in January and changed his mind somewhere along the way. And then created a real mess for everyone involved

http://articles.latimes.com/2008/apr...orts/sp-favre4

i did a google and found a link to an LA times article and it appears it is a legit rumor although the truth of the rumor can be questioned.

Let me ask you this...if Brett Favre wanted out of GB, how else could he do it without crushing his image?

He couldn't, especially if he goes to the Vikings. Imagine this, lets say both the Vikings and the Packers make the playoffs, and Favre goes into Lambeau and beats the Packers to go to the Super Bowl...OH MY!!

If he goes to the Vikings, it will make for an interesting Monday night opener when they are retiring his #.....against the Vikings..

If I'm a Bear Boy like you, I'm hoping Angelo has Bus Cook's number