AW on NY agenda
 

from the bloodhorse

http://news.bloodhorse.com/article/46028.htm

July 29 @ Saratoga

this thread reached 5 star status before there was a single response to it?
hmmm...

I really hope that this is just for show. There's no reason in hell to convert the NY tracks (except maybe the AQU inner) to the fake stuff.

I'll be just a couple of blocks away.....at the pool.

I figured I'd put my 5 stars in before hoss does his 1 star thingy.

You're batting 1.000 today.

Thanks. The Dee Tee Posse strikes again.

That would be smart but were are they getting the money to do it..Plus you would need to do The Belmont training track at the same time.. If the they did switch it to Tapeta or Cushion perhaps NYRA would save some money and dates in the long run?

It is a State task force I believe.

Oh, this would be a sad moment in racing. Synthetics have their place...but they do not belong everywhere. *SIGH*

We do need an AW surface in NY because my yearling was bred to run over turf and aw.

Is there state fair racing in NY? Maybe in Syracuse at the Mile? Or perhaps Vernon Downs

I think lots of horseman would welcome poly/synthetic track instead of the Inner at the Big A.. The winter is rough and poly has to be easier to maintain. Having a track that is good shape to train and race on all winter isn't too bad an idea. So much money is spent opening and closing and harrowing tracks in the winter. it's a lot of work and it comes at a huge cost. Do you really love that inner biasis towards speed? Plus maybe they can have the main Aqueduct track open a tad bit earlier they already are racing on the turf two weeks before they used too with the advent of the plastic wrap

Agenda is the appropriate word.

I think Saratoga Harness track would benefit a great deal from an AW weather track. Lets do it!!!!!

Polytracks are fine during wet weather but are not very good in really cold weather.

Define really cold it averages about 37 degrees in NY..Sure there are 5 degree days but thery are as often as 45 degree days.. Isn't Tapeta suppose to be well suited for cold at least that is what Sir Dickenson told me

And what of the windchill? It is Aqueduct. Synthetic tracks are designed to hold lots of water. When it is under 32 degrees, water freezes. When you cant put water on the track it gets way too loose. When you put water in at cold temperatures, it freezes and balls up. Hence the issue with cold and synthetic.

And I never believed any thing MD said when he was training, why should it be any different now?

Would a knight lie?

salt water?

I like the thought.. maybe Epsom Salt water that may help take the sting out of the horses feet?

A lie is not a lie if you believe it to be true...

I always thought that, if NYRA was going to do a racing surface in synthetic, the Aqueduct main track would be the way to go. You could eliminate the inner dirt track (and create a wider turf course), and also allow for 7F and one-turn mile races during the winter, as opposed to the 6F or two-turn situation that we see with the inner.

If the potentially cold weather would be a problem at Aqueduct, why would it any less of a problem on the Belmont training track?

Although I am sure sir Simon is speaking from some past history and experience I am sure that Synthetics of some sort will work out fine once the right formula is worked out. I agree that might make some sense.. I have always thought the inner meet was a step child and I wouldn't screw with the main track but I guess you could.. Andy would know best what is on NYRA's mind... anyway they have no money so it is all BS for now

'TURFlike' racing in the dead of winter in NY. Where do I sign up?

I agree it is less then ideal.. Consider that horseman need a reliable track to condition their stock.. When the weather is really bad how can they do this? Plus NYRA losses a lot of dates when it's a rough winter so the alternative to Turflike racing is perhaps no racing at all. Most of the high powered barns and owners are following the sun so the only people who do suffer are the few that really can't afford to ship to warmer climates. Other then closing it down for 100 days a year it kind of makes some sense to mitigate the weather of winter and race on something synthetic.

There is a better shot of the fat Man sliming down and riding on the inner track as a 10 pound bug than there is of NYRA shutting down in the winter. The NY breeders would start jumping off the Throgs neck bridge in protest.

Wind chill is a figure meant to estimate heat being taken away from a living endothermic body; the wind doesn't actually change the air temperature.

That said, air temperature is usually measured a few feet above the ground, so the ground can be a couple of degrees colder than the air temperature.

We now return you to your regularly scheduled synthetic track discussion.

I think that Polytrack is considered a living endothermic body according to the Bid.

Couldn't they heat the aw tracks ? They heat football fields so they don't freeze.

The streak continues.

What about the fog ? Something has got to be done about dat !

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p1QQfpbCiw4

I think I see a plot for a horror movie here...

The Fog
The Blob
The Poly

Forget AW

Aqueduct inner should install my Pay Dirt™ SYSTEM .

A proprietary blend featuring Safety Soil™ (a unique system of banking at the rail for drainage)

we oughta cut a small-time deal to install carpet, i mean Pay Dirt, for a small short term profit for my buddies, in the name of safety.