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Kasept 07-04-2008 11:42 AM

Two Bozos in one week! Helms dead..
 
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080704/..._us/obit_helms

Jesse Helms, a vile, hate-filled, obstructionist faux 'patriot' is dead. Sickeningly being mentioned with Adams and Jefferson because he died on the 4th. Adams and Jefferson would spit in his face for the disgusting manner in which Helms conducted himself in his years of 'public service'. An embarrassment to North Carolina for 40 years.

Coach Pants 07-04-2008 11:52 AM

There were far more boneheads Adams and Jefferson dealt with in their day. I highly doubt they would spit in his face.

Mortimer 07-04-2008 11:55 AM

He was no Strom Thurmond.

ddthetide 07-04-2008 11:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kasept
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080704/..._us/obit_helms

Jesse Helms, a vile, hate-filled, obstructionist faux 'patriot' is dead. Sickeningly being mentioned with Adams and Jefferson because he died on the 4th. Adams and Jefferson would spit in his face for the disgusting manner in which Helms conducted himself in his years of 'public service'. An embarrassment to North Carolina for 40 years.

now tell us what you really think?.:D
all of the founding fathers are spinning in their graves at what goes on and gets elected to DC these days.

Coach Pants 07-04-2008 11:59 AM

I can't wait for the George H. W. Bush eulogy, Steve.

Kasept 07-04-2008 12:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mortimer
He was no Strom Thurmond.

True enough.. though even the leftover Dixiecrats found him reprehensible. More or less was a cracker version of 50's Nixon.

Mortimer 07-04-2008 12:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kasept
True enough.. though even the leftover Dixiecrats found him reprehensible. More or less was a cracker version of 50's Nixon.


========UPS!!





I mean OOOOOOOOOO.

ArlJim78 07-04-2008 01:20 PM

on the roster of embarrassing senators, Helms hardly stands out. there are several despicable examples still serving.

geeker2 07-04-2008 02:04 PM

I've got Senator Byrd in my death pool....

Rupert Pupkin 07-04-2008 03:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kasept
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080704/..._us/obit_helms

Jesse Helms, a vile, hate-filled, obstructionist faux 'patriot' is dead. Sickeningly being mentioned with Adams and Jefferson because he died on the 4th. Adams and Jefferson would spit in his face for the disgusting manner in which Helms conducted himself in his years of 'public service'. An embarrassment to North Carolina for 40 years.

Is he as bad as those terrible, evil animal right's activists?

Rupert Pupkin 07-04-2008 04:08 PM

Here is an article about Helms. He was actually a Democrat until he switched to the Republican party in 1970.

http://www.wral.com/news/local/politics/story/1755723/

It's not mentioned in this article, but Helms and his wife adopted a 9 year old boy with cerebral palsy. He sounds like a terrible, evil man to me. He may be as evil as animal right's activists.

If someone has a different opinion than you do, it's a good idea to label the person as evil.

mclem0822 07-04-2008 04:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kasept
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080704/..._us/obit_helms

Jesse Helms, a vile, hate-filled, obstructionist faux 'patriot' is dead. Sickeningly being mentioned with Adams and Jefferson because he died on the 4th. Adams and Jefferson would spit in his face for the disgusting manner in which Helms conducted himself in his years of 'public service'. An embarrassment to North Carolina for 40 years.

Couldn't agree with you more Steve. The man was dispicable! Wouldn't be suprised if his linen collections were used more than just to sleep on! He was a total disgrace!

Rupert Pupkin 07-04-2008 04:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kasept
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080704/..._us/obit_helms

Jesse Helms, a vile, hate-filled, obstructionist faux 'patriot' is dead. Sickeningly being mentioned with Adams and Jefferson because he died on the 4th. Adams and Jefferson would spit in his face for the disgusting manner in which Helms conducted himself in his years of 'public service'. An embarrassment to North Carolina for 40 years.

I would strongly disagree with your contention that Jefferson and Adams would have despised Helms. How did you possibly come to that conclusion? Jefferson and Adams were slave owners. Helm's racial views were probably tame compared to Jefferson and Adams.

Helms was not a hypocrite like many of these Democrats. Actions speak louder than words. Half of these deomocrats talk about race all day and yet they they would never put someone of color in a position of power. Helm's press secretary was black. In addition, he had another African-American on his staff. As I said, actions speak louder than words.

hi_im_god 07-04-2008 04:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin
Here is an article about Helms. He was actually a Democrat until he switched to the Republican party in 1970.

http://www.wral.com/news/local/politics/story/1755723/

It's not mentioned in this article, but Helms and his wife adopted a 9 year old boy with cerebral palsy. He sounds like a terrible, evil man to me. He may be as evil as animal right's activists.

If someone has a different opinion than you do, it's a good idea to label the person as evil.

you do know everyone can still read the original post, right?

i didn't see evil.

but i do think he missed racist, backward looking redneck in his description.

Mortimer 07-04-2008 05:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin
Here is an article about Helms. He was actually a Democrat until he switched to the Republican party in 1970.

http://www.wral.com/news/local/politics/story/1755723/

It's not mentioned in this article, but Helms and his wife adopted a 9 year old boy with cerebral palsy. He sounds like a terrible, evil man to me. He may be as evil as animal right's activists.

If someone has a different opinion than you do, it's a good idea to label the person as evil.



Oddly enough..."evil" comes from the Hungarian word----evaultosh.




Yes.






It meant...I would like to pet her.

Rupert Pupkin 07-04-2008 06:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hi_im_god
you do know everyone can still read the original post, right?

i didn't see evil.

but i do think he missed racist, backward looking redneck in his description.

You may be right. He only called him "vile and hate-filled". Just because he thinks that Helms is "vile and hate-filled", it doesn't mean that he thinks he's "evil".

Mortimer 07-04-2008 06:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin
You may be right. He only called him "vile and hate-filled". Just because he thinks that Helms is "vile and hate-filled", it doesn't mean that he thinks he's "evil".


Yer gittin' there.

pgardn 07-04-2008 06:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin
You may be right. He only called him "vile and hate-filled". Just because he thinks that Helms is "vile and hate-filled", it doesn't mean that he thinks he's "evil".

Helms was not a politician. He stated his views rather clearly.
And he got elected over and over. Personally I would say he
was one of the least patriotic modern day Senators ever, pure intolerance.
But at least he let you know he believed in a very diff. sort of America.

hi_im_god 07-04-2008 06:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin
You may be right. He only called him "vile and hate-filled". Just because he thinks that Helms is "vile and hate-filled", it doesn't mean that he thinks he's "evil".

i can't say i look back on the lives of either george wallace or strom thurmond and think they added to society.

but george wallace at least recognized the harm he did and spent the very latest part of his life trying to amend. and strom thurmond had the grace to mask his racism later in life.

jesse helms was (hopefully) the last of the unrepentant white racist national politicians.

defend him all you want. i'm glad his kind of politics in on the wane.

Mortimer 07-04-2008 07:44 PM

I don't think we can go any further with this.






Anyone else?

geeker2 07-04-2008 07:51 PM

You know it's not to late for other politicans to still die on the 4th...

Anyone?

pgardn 07-04-2008 08:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mortimer
I don't think we can go any further with this.






Anyone else?

I have no doubt in your ability
to go much further Mortunsis.

Mortimer 07-04-2008 08:14 PM

Guess who's no longer at the Helms?







A-HAHAHAHAHA

herkhorse 07-04-2008 08:15 PM

:D

herkhorse 07-04-2008 08:19 PM

Frankly, I am offended that Steve brought Bozo into this thread.

Rileyoriley 07-04-2008 08:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by herkhorse
Frankly, I am offended that Steve brought Bozo into this thread.


Perhaps he has a Bozo phobia. He should be directed to MMSC's thread in esoteric.

pgardn 07-04-2008 08:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by herkhorse
Frankly, I am offended that Steve brought Bozo into this thread.

Clowns have that wicked, sneaky, perverted thing going.
People are, for the most part, terrified of Clowns.

They can turn into big spiders and such... dont trust em, nope I dont.

herkhorse 07-04-2008 08:25 PM

I loved Shakes the Clown

geeker2 07-04-2008 08:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by herkhorse
Frankly, I am offended that Steve brought Bozo into this thread.


that's right...isn't Yuko the racist clown? not Bozo

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...69164340056306

pgardn 07-04-2008 09:55 PM

Attachment 883

One of quite a few infamous clowns.

Mortimer 07-04-2008 10:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rileyoriley
Perhaps he has a Bozo phobia. He should be directed to MMSC's thread in esoteric.


Most of the inmates here are afraid of sexually aggressive women...which is why you don't get a lot of replies.








As you know......................



....I am not.



;)

Rupert Pupkin 07-05-2008 12:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pgardn
Helms was not a politician. He stated his views rather clearly.
And he got elected over and over. Personally I would say he
was one of the least patriotic modern day Senators ever, pure intolerance.
But at least he let you know he believed in a very diff. sort of America.

Why would you say he was not patriotic? By the way, I am not an expert on Helms. I don't know that much about him. I can't say for sure that he wasn't a racist.

But in general, I am always hearing people accuse conservatives of being racists and most of the time the accusations are completely unfounded. Just because a person is against affirmative action, etc., that doesn't make them a racist. In fact, you could argue the exact opposite.

If Helms was such a racist, why did he have a black press secretary?

Mortimer 07-05-2008 12:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin
Why would you say he was not patriotic? By the way, I am not an expert on Helms. I don't know that much about him. I can't say for sure that he wasn't a racist.

But in general, I am always hearing people accuse conservatives of being racists and most of the time the accusations are completely unfounded. Just because a person is against affirmative action, etc., that doesn't make them a racist. In fact, you could argue the exact opposite.

If Helms was such a racist, why did he have a black press secretary?



Well, to cover the Black press...of course.








( it's him----right?)

Rupert Pupkin 07-05-2008 03:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mortimer
Well, to cover the Black press...of course.








( it's him----right?)

I don't think Helms cared about the black press. He knew he wasn't going to get the black vote. There was no reason for him to appease the black press.

Pgardn said, "Helms was not a politician. He stated his views rather clearly."

If Pgardn is right, then Helms would not have been the kind of guy to hire a black press secretary for political reasons. He must have hired the guy because he thought he was the best guy for the job. Someone who will hire the best person for the job, regardless of race, is not a racist.

Kasept 07-05-2008 04:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin
If someone has a different opinion than you do, it's a good idea to label the person as evil.

Don't recall you ever saying you lived in NC. I, however, did.. Like most of the current neo con phonies, Helms masterfully traded on fear to stay elected, a prequel to the playbook for the current scum in office. He eagerly blocked progressive measures in the Senate for years. Evil? Yeah, I'm funny that way. I tend to find those that go out of their way to inhibit the quality of life of others, evil.

TheSpyder 07-05-2008 07:44 AM

Spyder reporting from the Carolinas';

When I came down here from Cleveland in 1974 I was shocked to realize that the Civil War had not ended.

Visiting my Southern girlfriends parents in Smithfield, NC I was welcomed by a sign coming into town..."The KKK Welcomes You to Smithfield"
.......oh boy!

Many people here hated blacks and Northerners. It was obvious.

Helms was from that mold and used that wedge to motivate these people for years and years. It was quite sad to see such limited vision by actual human beings. I found it quite refreshing when a friend was asked why he was here by some of these people to reply...."I just wanted to come down here to see what we won!"

But times have changed. It seems most people are from Ohio, PA, and NY.

Still in the backwoods, and there are plenty, these attitudes still exist.

Mortimer 07-05-2008 08:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin
I don't think Helms cared about the black press. He knew he wasn't going to get the black vote. There was no reason for him to appease the black press.

Pgardn said, "Helms was not a politician. He stated his views rather clearly."

If Pgardn is right, then Helms would not have been the kind of guy to hire a black press secretary for political reasons. He must have hired the guy because he thought he was the best guy for the job. Someone who will hire the best person for the job, regardless of race, is not a racist.


Oh my God.




























thud

Mortimer 07-05-2008 08:52 AM

POPKINS!!








You are carrying manifest destiny a little too far!


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