Gotta love this broad
 

http://news.bloodhorse.com/article/45902.htm

Surprised she isn't trying to defend her boy Dutrow right now also.....

Maggi is doable

Cougar?

Well, she does appear to have most of her teeth.

I agree....but she is so full of **** it is ridiculous.

She wants to clean up the game, but she employs three of the biggest moveup trainers out there with probably 80% of her stock. Hypocritcal. I would love 3 minutes with her on the phone, tear her ass to shreds, and I don't care how smooth she is with her lawyer talk.

You want to clean up the game Maggi, how about employing trainers that don't get positives every month.

And I am just thinking of Lake/Asmussen and Amoss right now, I am sure there are others...

I bet she believes in her heart that these guys do not use illegal drugs to move horses up. I believe she thinks they use legal drugs in a suitable way that is not harmful. I believe she will continue to support such people until somebody proves that they are indeed crimnals. I believe she thinks that testing is so antiquated that none of it would stand up in any court of law under scrutiny..She is a smart cookie that has blinkers for her own good?


BTW teeth are optional

she was also on Steve's show defending R. Dutrow a while back...and keeps her NY horses with the guy that just had 40 of his horses sampled at Monmouth; not drawing any premature conclusions, jus' sayin'...She's quite the authority :rolleyes:

I remember that crap she pulled defending Dutrow. Forgot she had Levine, yet another move up guy.

It is great.

She is scum. Made a career outta defending rapists and murderers. She is sooooooooooooooo concerned about the game, but uses guys like Assmussen and Contessa to train her precious animals. Puleeeeeeeeze. She is so full of sh#t.

Also used to use Contessa. One of the games biggest cheats.

When did Amoss get a positive?
I must have missed that one, what track, what horse?

I don't know for sure, but I do know he moves up horses first time claim better then ANYONE. And I am not talking a couple points, I am talking 5-7pts is the usual improvement

So, I read the article and yeah, I get it. Party line, company line, and all that. However, forget about that for a minute. I don't care about all the propaganda. Very simply, Asmussen came up positive and he should get punished -- period. How much, when, etc. -- the same ol' same 'ol arguement over and over again.

But -- I do have a question. Honestly, what do people really think about how this really played out. Why would Asmussen treat this horse, in this race, or push the envelope, treat her too close . . . whatever . . . why would he do this on this horse who is a strong favorite to walk over the field?

Question -- if he did this, he knew he'd get caught, right? Very, very highly probable. So I know there are all the suppositions -- the mask didn't work (nah), he wanted to make sure, he was going to cash a ticket, and so on. The horse was 1-5. Tell me the horse paid a good # and I can see my way clear of anything being possible. The vets know what tests and what doesn't. This wasn't some designer or exotic drug. Every case is different, but here, what gives?

I run through all this in my head, and just think about the how and why. Now, most important -- and I've always said this, and ever strayed -- it doesn't matter!!! Positive test? Days and pays -- period.

Eric

I'd be very, very interested to know how many were in jail, what % were on the drop, rise or back same. This is one factor I look at ALL the time as I am in the claiming business, but you might be surprised that trainers who shoot big #'s off the claim, are often on the drop. Argue all you want, but the top claiming trainers, and I know plenty of them, know their business stone cold. Most of my trainers know every single claiming horse on the grounds -- watch them work, race, cool out, etc. -- so it makes it much easier.

Doesn't mean there isn't "something else" but I'd look at those #'s.

Eric

Maybe she'll team up with that dna whiz Barry Scheck from the OJ trial. He can confuse anybody.

I agree 100% with that. This is why Catalano is so successful. He claims for 15k, drops for 10k and wins, profits a couple hundred dollars when said and done, and if the horse doesn't get claimed, they run back for 10k again and win and get claimed...

“I also believe in Steve’s innocence,” Moss said. “Being the leading trainer in the country and having Curlin, It would be ludicrous for him to give lidocaine to a 2-year-old filly who is going off at 1-5 odds. Nothing about this makes sense.”

Well why the phuck was she 1-5??? CAUSE EVERYONE IN THE JOINT KNOWS HE'S A CHEAT!!!!!!!!!

I really, really don't like Asmussen :mad:

Freddy...please tell me you are about 80 years old and senile....

you know what am I hoping and what I really think is the only possible solution to this hilarious garbage. I hope that one of these super trainers pisses off their assistant trainer so bad, that in about 3-4 years, they run to the Blood horse with evidence of a super trainer downright cheating his ass off, just with the most incriminating data. Now, this assistant would need to be changing professions completely which isn't impossible.

A good ole fashioned whistleblower.....

Who are you CRAPPING. YOU WOULD hit that like crazy and you know it

I wouldn't do her with your joint...

Calling BS...

Dude...I love my women on the "mature" side:o , but I also prefer them to be attractive. IMO....she isn't attractive.

You would make here yell

G-P-K

what the--------------

I have had the pleasure to meet Freddy...he's more like 65.

Scavs you wouldnt hit that. Come on. She's old and decrepid. Go down to Division Street on a Friday night. Plenty of drunk chicks with blurry vision who you can bag.

I think I just threw up in my mouth a little bit.

She is close to GPK's age......

i'm 51.

she has droopy boobs with distended nipples from breast feeding. or had work done.

her stomach isn't flat. or had work done.

you'll do her eventually. or be dead.

just a heads up. think of me when you're posting on whatever replaces the internet.

I'm not far from your 51....

I won't do her eventually....but GPK will.

Too funny Kev :D

Ewwww

Yeah she was defending Dutrow when he was faking workouts to make a horse eligible at Woodbine for the Queens Plate a couple years back if memory serves telling us how poor Rick would feed his horses instead of himself.....when you read the DRF article from today and he is throwing Contessa under the bus because his results must be cheating I just want to vomit....talk about the pot calling the kettle black.

Maybe she does ride ......I can't write the rest of that sentence I would have nightmares for weeks from the images

Take this in another direction - how many of these assistant trainers to the super trainers go out on their own and reproduce the st's results?
Here in MD, I can't think of a single one. For example, Tim Hooper was the asst to Scott Lake before he went out on his own to train for Mike Gill. Between those two top producers, you'd think Hooper would have carried their magic with him. He hasn't. He has mediocre results, at best. So then you have to ask, is it the magic, or is it the horses the owners are able to provide? Or is it the business model the owners follow, i.e., a willingness to claim and drop right off the claim, and then jam, jam, jam......

Probably count on one hand the number that are just as successful.
Pletcher is the obvious 1st, as well as most of Lukas' protégées. A few year back one of Vienna's assistants Tim Yakteen looked like he was going to go someplace, but has sorta fizzled out since.

which means you and her must be the same age.:cool:

Who is better looking, Maggi or this woman?

http://wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=68049

So they just had Maggi Moss on HRTV going on and on about fixing racings problems and how the sport needs so much help. She then implies it's wrong to go after guys like Assmussen and Dutrow. 2 guys who have repeatdly been caught cheating. It's ridiculous hearing from someone about all the problems in racing who employs some of the biggest cheaters out there...Assmussen...Contessa...Lake.

She is just adding to the problem by defending the guys who are the cause of all the problems. Her defense with assmussen is it was most likely sabotage. Gimme a freakin break. This is a dangerous route to go down....pretty soon all the cheaters will use this as an excuse. It's pretty cut and dry...your horse tests postive, you do the time/penalty. She really needs to shut her trap.

Apparently we listened to different interviews because that is not at all what I heard her say, and I just watched it, DVR delayed.

I don't like or dislike Maggi Moss, which is not the forums sentiment. It is very clear in this thread how the forum members percieve her. As well this just plays into the internet hysteria that even surfaced in this thread when someone said Amoss had a positive without any evidence whatsoever, "just a feeling". Well, having a positive and someone suggesting you had a positive are two completely different things.

Your comments are the same, you heard what you wanted to hear and are relaying that interview based on your sentiment.

What she said is that there is no uniformity in the drug testing situation, particularly in Texas. They will not do any bloodwork to perform quantative evidence of doping. She also stated that a LSU Dr. had reviewed the testing and said that it is possible it was a contamination, but because of the way Texas conducts their testing once postive there is no further testing, like bloodwork which is much better standard to use than urine. Or that it had been metabolized, which is much different than injecting to block.

She never implied it was wrong to go after Assmusen or Dutrow. What she did say was that it would be ludicrous for Assmussen to have injected a 1/5 filly in a MSW, what would be the point, particularly in a state like Texas.

She also spoke about the terrible things that do happen in this sport, that horses are abused, blocked, slaughtered and so on. BUT because there is no uniformity state to state, no definitive way to do testing, someone can test positive in Texas but not test positive in Kentucky which has a much better process of testing. The fact there is no standard from track to track this is what she wants to address.


Oh and you forgot to mention another foundation she has established to help owners that can't afford to fix their injured animals and therefore have to euthanize them. Her foundation would help owners to save horses that get injuries that are expensive and let them be retired.

I'm not her cheerleader here, although it sounds like it, I really have no opinion, but if you are going to relay information make it more truthful of what was said and not just your "feelings"