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AceRothstein 06-21-2008 02:50 PM

Collmus or Stauffer GP 2009 (Poll)
 
As you can see. This is my first post on all sites. This is not though my first exposure to horse racing discussion boards. In fact far from it. I've been reading and enjoying this and a few other sites for quite some time. I've just never felt the need to post my opinion until now.

So here it goes.

I think Vic Stauffer should be reinstated as the announcer at Gulfstream Park.

I've certainly read enough to know that many of you are sick and tired of announcer threads. But this is different. This subject is very impotant to me as a racing fan. I am serious about sending the outcome of this poll to Gulfstream and M E C.

Let me first say that I think Larry is a good announcer who does a credible job. But I believe that Vic is much better. His calls gave so much love and passion to the horses and horsemen during his years at Gulfstfream. I miss that very much.

Just in the past few weeks his calls have been featured twice on ESPN, The Jim Rome Show and the documnetary The First Saturday in May.

Just the other night when I heard one of his calls from Hollywood Park on Sports Center I thought to myself how the heck did Gulfstream ever let him go?

So here's the question. If the announcer's job for the 2009 GP meeting was open and up for grabs, and Larry and Vic were the only two candidates---Who would you choose and why?

I know Vic has alot of friends and supporters on these boards. I'm sure they'll chime in for their man. Therefore the more people that respond the better chance for the most accurate representation of what the majority of racing fans would like to see done.

Everyone with an opinion please respond.

Remember for this poll only please choose Larry or Vic.

Thanks

Ace Rothstein

Disclaimer: I contacted Vic and asked his thoughts about me trying to get him back to Gulfstream.
He said that I was free to write whatever I choose and do whatever I wanted but that he would not participate.

10 pnt move up 06-21-2008 02:54 PM

I liked the Zetterberg call last night, predictable but still funny.

declansharbor 06-21-2008 02:57 PM

Vic in a landslide.

Collmus' calls make me want to take naps.

I vote VJS

Scav 06-21-2008 02:57 PM

what up Unc...

jwkniska 06-21-2008 05:27 PM

Vic

Either way, it'll be nice to actually get the GP feed again, since Comcast added HRTV in Chicago.

Travis Stone 06-21-2008 05:46 PM

Is this the same Ace Rothstein from the movie Casino? It was on last night. Great film!!

Bigsmc 06-21-2008 05:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scav
what up Unc...

Be a good nephew and teach your Uncle how to put a poll up, Cannon style.

SlewsMyHero 06-21-2008 05:46 PM

My vote goes to Vic. I have nothing against Larry. I believe he's a capable and accurate announcer. I just think Vic is at a higher level right now. I thoroughly enjoy his calls, and in fact, started a thread about this at the start of the Hollywood Fall meeting. I ended that thread with "what was Gulfstream's management thinking letting you go".

Rupert Pupkin 06-21-2008 05:47 PM

I don't think it's any contest. I think Vic is a great announcer. I think Collmus is dead-average.

Spiggle24 06-21-2008 06:33 PM

In a SHHaaakErrr
 
Vic. No contest. Anyone who can continue a call & crack a joke in the middle of a race call during an eartquake,:zz: to me is the announcing equivalent to the Preakness stumble of AFLEET ALEX, overcoming anything to get the job done.

Scav 06-21-2008 06:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Travis Stone
Is this the same Ace Rothstein from the movie Casino? It was on last night. Great film!!

The person Ace Rothstein never existed, Ace Rothstein is actually Lefty Rosenthal...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_Rosenthal

Scav 06-21-2008 06:45 PM

For my uncle, Bad announcer vs Vic poll
 
Here you go. LET YOUR VOICES BE HEARD

Travis Stone 06-21-2008 06:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scav
The person Ace Rothstein never existed, Ace Rothstein is actually Lefty Rosenthal...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_Rosenthal

Yea... I was a bit tongue in cheek with that post. But very serious about how good the movie is.

MaTH716 06-21-2008 07:05 PM

Neither, both of them are way beyond calling the crappy races that they constantly run down there now. I am going to use a write in vote: Denman.

The Indomitable DrugS 06-21-2008 07:06 PM

I'd like to write in Aaron Hesz.

NTamm1215 06-21-2008 07:13 PM

You'd think with the following Vic apparently has around here we're soon to have a poll regarding whether he should replace Durkin at Saratoga.

NT

v j stauffer 06-21-2008 08:49 PM

Ah. No!

cmorioles 06-21-2008 09:10 PM

Nice...the biased title of the thread is a great start.

NTamm1215 06-21-2008 09:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cmorioles
Nice...the biased title of the thread is a great start.

Exactly...great way to start a poll.

NT

ateamstupid 06-21-2008 09:31 PM

Collmus does a fine job, I don't understand why there would be a need for a switch.

Scav 06-21-2008 09:35 PM

Will you clowns relax, it was made in a joking manner.

cmorioles 06-21-2008 09:37 PM

I don't really see a joke, just calling Larry a bad announcer while cyber blowing Vic.

Scav 06-21-2008 09:38 PM

It was in jest towards the other thread.

And if we are airing personal opinions, Collmus is garbage anyways, if I want someone to stay the same tone, I'll go to the library

GPK 06-21-2008 09:39 PM

Pete Grunder!!!!

ateamstupid 06-21-2008 09:40 PM

I don't understand why we needed two threads about something nobody seems to care about anyway.

cmorioles 06-21-2008 09:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scav
It was in jest towards the other thread.

And if we are airing personal opinions, Collmus is garbage anyways, if I want someone to stay the same tone, I'll go to the library

That was the point of my post. You already aired your opinion. Now he is garbage? Nice, you are a class act.

Scav 06-21-2008 09:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ateamstupid
I don't understand why we needed two threads about something nobody seems to care about anyway.

**** THE POLICE!!

rontheman1964 06-21-2008 09:49 PM

Give Chris Kotulak another chance......he can get it right; I know he can. I've heard him call the races at Fonner Park. :D

Scav 06-21-2008 09:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rontheman1964
Give Chris Kotulak another chance......he can get it right; I know he can. I've heard him call the races at Fonner Park. :D

oh my

Coach Pants 06-21-2008 09:52 PM

If I recall, Vic was given the pink slip through e-mail. Seems like this thread is a waste of time.

NTamm1215 06-21-2008 09:58 PM

The most important question to be asked here is who cares? Why now on a question that has obviously been answered by the people who have the final opinion- the ones who do the hiring and firing?

Obviously the management at Gulfstream saw a reason to make a change, they dismissed an announcer who is colorful yet is quite prone to error, often lets his emotions get the best of him, and has more gaps in his calls than Michael Strahan does in his teeth. They hired an announcer who rarely, if ever, makes a mistake, has more experience than his predecessor and gives you as factual a race call as you'll find anywhere. There's also something to be said for maintaining an even keel during a race call and keeping it simple.

Vic seems like a nice guy and I'm glad he participates in the board.

However, lines like "cowabunga dude" and "Showing the Speed of Ruffian, the class of Lady's Secret and the Heart of Personal Ensign" along with "that's the original rags to riches" is just a little over the top in my opinion.

NT

Coach Pants 06-21-2008 09:58 PM

Brokeback Kotulak.

MaTH716 06-21-2008 10:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scav
It was in jest towards the other thread.

And if we are airing personal opinions, Collmus is garbage anyways, if I want someone to stay the same tone, I'll go to the library

Way off base there Scavs. He is solid and accurate and does a great job. And as far as the same tone goes, it's tough to get excited for those 5-10k claimers that they are running there most of the week. But he definately steps it up a notch for the better races.

Scav 06-21-2008 10:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NTamm1215
The most important question to be asked here is who cares? Why now on a question that has obviously been answered by the people who have the final opinion- the ones who do the hiring and firing?

Obviously the management at Gulfstream saw a reason to make a change, they dismissed an announcer who is colorful yet is quite prone to error, often lets his emotions get the best of him, and has more gaps in his calls than Michael Strahan does in his teeth. They hired an announcer who rarely, if ever, makes a mistake, has more experience than his predecessor and gives you as factual a race call as you'll find anywhere. There's also something to be said for maintaining an even keel during a race call and keeping it simple.

Vic seems like a nice guy and I'm glad he participates in the board.

However, lines like "cowabunga dude" and "Showing the Speed of Ruffian, the class of Lady's Secret and the Heart of Personal Ensign" along with "that's the original rags to riches" is just a little over the top in my opinion.

NT

it is all preference, I would much rather have those lines, then the same call all the time, which is what Collmus gives ya. He has about 3 different calls, thats it

MaTH716 06-21-2008 10:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coach Pants
If I recall, Vic was given the pink slip through e-mail. Seems like this thread is a waste of time.

Is Omar Minaya in charge of Gulfstream too?

ArlJim78 06-21-2008 10:14 PM

just try to imagine all of the memorable big race calls Collmus has made.
there aren't any because when he calls a race it sounds unimportant, bland. 10K claimers or gr1's, no difference.
no doubt in my mind that they took a step backwards when they made the change.

Indian Charlie 06-21-2008 10:41 PM

Arnold Horshack.

countrydick 06-22-2008 12:14 AM

Clearly Vic is the better of the two, and he vehemently defended Gulfstream during the abortion that it has become and got fired nonetheless.


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