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Kasept 06-19-2008 03:50 PM

6/22 (WO): 149th Queen's Plate (Gr. I)
 
5th (2:30) Scotts Highlander S. (G3)

6 Furlongs (Turf) | Open | 3 Year Olds And Up Stakes | Purse: $200,000

1 Wollemi Pine Wilson E 115 L
2 Silver Strip Pizarro T 115 L
3 Awesome Action Landry R C 117 L
4 The Great Caruso Husbands P 115 L
5 Heros Reward Castellano J J 123 L
6 Unusual Suspect Sutherland C 121 L
7 Gantu Ramsammy E 115 L
8 Indian Ashton Trujillo E 115 L
9 Santana Strings McAleney J S 115 L
10 Quietly Mine Dominguez R A 115 L



7th (3:47) Singspiel S. (G3)

1 1/2 Miles (Turf) | Open | 3 Year Olds And Up Stakes | Purse: $150,000

1 Rahy's Attorney Callaghan S 125 L
2 Benz Boy Stein J 118 L
3 Shillelagh Slew Baird J 118 L
4 Mission Approved Coa E M 118 L
5 Colorful Judgement Ramsammy E 118 L
6 My Imperial Dancer Da Silva E R 122 L
7 Mike Fox Wilson E 122 L
8 Tap Show Husbands S P 118 L
9 Dubai Gold Clark D 118 L
10 Marchfield Husbands P 122 L
11 It's Like This Pizarro T 118 L
12 Pellegrino (BRZ) Jones J 118 L




9th (5:06) Queen's Plate S.

1 1/4 Miles (All Weather Track) | Open | 3 Year Olds Stakes | Purse: $1,000,000

1 D. Flutie Ramsammy E 126 L
2 Dylan's Choice Sutherland C 126 L
3 East End Tap Pizarro T 126 Blk-Off L
4 Harvest Home Fraser C 126 Blk-On L
5 Deputiformer Baird J 126 L
6 Silver Jag Callaghan S 126 L
7 Palmers Husbands P 126 L
8 Mamma's Knight Stein J 126 L
9 Shadowless Wilson E 126 L
10 Ginger Brew Castellano J J 121 L
11 Jungle Brew Coa E M 126
12 Solitaire Landry R C 126 L
13 Not Bourbon Jones J 126 L
14 Sebastian's Song Clark D 126 L
15 Took the Time Dominguez R A 126 L

CSC 06-19-2008 04:39 PM

I love that Woodbine turf course, looks promising if the rain stays away.

jcs11204 06-19-2008 06:23 PM

will ginger brew be the favorite ?

blackthroatedwind 06-19-2008 06:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jcs11204
will ginger brew be the favorite ?


You've certainly looked at the pps.....what do you think?

hoovesupsideyourhead 06-19-2008 06:37 PM

poor pelligrino..turning into perfect drift.........

Bigsmc 06-19-2008 07:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
You've certainly looked at the pps.....what do you think?

I'm shocked he hasn't given us his cold P3 for these races yet.

blackthroatedwind 06-19-2008 07:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bigsmc
I'm shocked he hasn't given us his cold P3 for these races yet.


He's waiting until he reads all the names.

jcs11204 06-19-2008 07:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
He's waiting until he reads all the names.

i have looked at the pp's... and IMO she will go off as the favorite.

jcs11204 06-19-2008 07:36 PM

i just double checked, just for you BTW, and she actually lays over these, she should be around even money, anything higher is value.

blackthroatedwind 06-19-2008 07:45 PM

Even money in a 14 horse field?

The usual $16K monopoly money?

ninetoone 06-19-2008 08:28 PM

"Ginger Brew, whose presence adds plenty of spice to the Queen's Plate, is the only filly in the field and comes off a smashing victory for trainer Brian Lynch in the 1 1/8-mile Woodbine Oaks on June 8. "Supplemented to the Queen's Plate at a cost of $25,000, Ginger Brew will break from post 10 after drawing the eighth pick and is the projected third choice at 4-1 under returning rider Javier Castellano.

(drf)

jcs11204 06-19-2008 08:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
Even money in a 14 horse field?

The usual $16K monopoly money?

ok then champ... what do you expect her odds to be ? off of her last over this track, and the group shes facing, i'd say no better then 7-5

my miss storm cat 06-19-2008 08:50 PM

Additional Queen's Plate info, for anyone interested...

http://www.woodbineentertainment.com...e/Default.aspx

NTamm1215 06-19-2008 09:38 PM

There are 5 maidens and 11 horses eligible for a N1X in the Queen's Plate and a filly is going to be a heavy favorite. Get your PPs handy.

NT

Zaf 06-19-2008 09:43 PM

Love It

blackthroatedwind 06-19-2008 09:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NTamm1215
There are 5 maidens and 11 horses eligible for a N1X in the Queen's Plate and a filly is going to be a heavy favorite. Get your PPs handy.

NT


It's a pretty thin field to say the least. The filly is OK....but so is Bond's maiden that ran second in the Plate Trial.

IrishofNDMan 06-19-2008 09:54 PM

Probably not a good price but I like Not Bourbon and even Palmers a little.

Bobby Fischer 06-19-2008 10:27 PM

Ginger Brew was impressive the way she handled the kickback in the OAKs. Castellano shipped in and rode that race as if he wasn't the least bit aware that there is a massive kickback cloud. She has sharper faster races than Solitaire thus far. Needs to use the tactical speed a bit more.

Solitaire is the best animal. He will have to circle the field after a grueling trip to win.

tough race to handicap.

CSC 06-20-2008 09:32 AM

The 2 horses likely to be overbet in the Plate are Ginger Brew and Solitaire. I'm going to backtrack a little on an earlier opinion I made of Not Bourbon not being able to get the 1 1/4, it's still a question mark but after reviewing the Plate Trial the only horse making ground on him was Solitaire in the stretch. If there are enough question marks about him getting the 1 1/4 and he goes off as the third choice I'd say he would be the one to look at, a longshot to look at also would be Sebastian's Cat who made a early move on the turn, abeit premature. He could run better.

slotdirt 06-20-2008 09:51 AM

Queen's Plate? Canadian racing? Irrelevant.

zippyneedsawin 06-20-2008 11:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
You've certainly looked at the pps.....what do you think?

I can't make the canadian conversion...

CSC 06-20-2008 01:37 PM

And I thought Hockey was irrevelant? Before anyone gets on me I am joking. I like Hockey.

alysheba4 06-20-2008 02:09 PM

the dude that calls races at woodbine rules......." and their awwwfffff "

slotdirt 06-20-2008 04:10 PM

You know, it's funny, if someone had said that "Canada was irrelevant" it would have caused much less of an outroar here than when someone said that Canadian racing is irrelevant.

Round Pen 06-20-2008 04:35 PM

you guys can say what you want about canadian racing, I have a couple of horses up at Woodbine when you can run a 2 year old 5F and the purse is 60k and when you convert it to US dollars it is still around 60k thats the place I want my horses running.

THe purse structure there is 2nd to none by far the best in North America especially now when the the US $1 and the Canadian $1 are virtually the same.

For those of you who are not that familiar about racing at Woodbine go to there web site and look at there condition book you will see purses are out of sight. why do you think Asmussen worked so hard to get stalls there he has 20 this year.

Round Pen

Round Pen 06-20-2008 04:43 PM

oh :D as far as the Queens Plate wide open and a very good betting race if you don't like the filly plus I am not that fond of Not Bourbon either.

FGFan 06-20-2008 04:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Round Pen
you guys can say what you want about canadian racing, I have a couple of horses up at Woodbine when you can run a 2 year old 5F and the purse is 60k and when you convert it to US dollars it is still around 60k thats the place I want my horses running.

THe purse structure there is 2nd to none by far the best in North America especially now when the the US $1 and the Canadian $1 are virtually the same.

For those of you who are not that familiar about racing at Woodbine go to there web site and look at there condition book you will see purses are out of sight. why do you think Asmussen worked so hard to get stalls there he has 20 this year.

Round Pen

I think their joking around from a prior thread where someone else said it was irrelevant.

Here....http://www.derbytrail.com/forums/sho...t=23314&page=6
read post 29

Actually it's a pretty funny thread, I think almost every Canadian horse gets named.

Danzig 06-20-2008 07:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Round Pen
you guys can say what you want about canadian racing, I have a couple of horses up at Woodbine when you can run a 2 year old 5F and the purse is 60k and when you convert it to US dollars it is still around 60k thats the place I want my horses running.

THe purse structure there is 2nd to none by far the best in North America especially now when the the US $1 and the Canadian $1 are virtually the same.

For those of you who are not that familiar about racing at Woodbine go to there web site and look at there condition book you will see purses are out of sight. why do you think Asmussen worked so hard to get stalls there he has 20 this year.

Round Pen

it's not those of you, it's one guy that i remember saying canadian horses were irrelevant and why would anyone want to run in the queens plate..

Coach Pants 06-20-2008 07:47 PM


Danzig 06-20-2008 07:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coach Pants

lol

i had a canadian dude a few weeks ago that i had to deal with for five days at work. he was such a jerk! so, i kept thinking about the south park/canada episodes; had a good laugh or two.


'i thought there was only one road?'

there is, but you went the wrong way....

pmayjr 06-20-2008 07:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FGFan
I think their joking around from a prior thread where someone else said it was irrelevant.

Here....http://www.derbytrail.com/forums/sho...t=23314&page=6
read post 29

Actually it's a pretty funny thread, I think almost every Canadian horse gets named.


Thanks for clarifying this, ebcause I haven't been ouon for a few days and was about ready to start a rant! OOOOOOHHHH! I'm sure you're all shaking at that threat lol.

But anyway, just to add something else-
Woodbine has really good beetable fields in a lot of their races. Big fields on turf and poly, big prices, and they do only $2 wagers for exactas, tris, and supers, so the payouts can be pretty big. Y'all should get off your Belmont/Church/Holl-hood 6-horse field preferences for 2 seconds to try it, and you might find you'll like it

CSC 06-21-2008 02:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Round Pen
you guys can say what you want about canadian racing, I have a couple of horses up at Woodbine when you can run a 2 year old 5F and the purse is 60k and when you convert it to US dollars it is still around 60k thats the place I want my horses running.

THe purse structure there is 2nd to none by far the best in North America especially now when the the US $1 and the Canadian $1 are virtually the same.

For those of you who are not that familiar about racing at Woodbine go to there web site and look at there condition book you will see purses are out of sight. why do you think Asmussen worked so hard to get stalls there he has 20 this year.

Round Pen

I was only joking, there was another thread that a poster said Canadian racing was irrevalent, which basically everyone debunked. I'm glad there are others here that enjoy talking about international racing.

swedejxn 06-21-2008 07:53 AM

It is gonna be hard to beat the Filly... but even money on a field this size is a hard pill to swallow.... Solitaire may be overbet but can still make a few bucks with the kick... Post usually isn't a problem Sebastian will be in the mix at solid price... But I think Palmers is sitting on one....

In the songspiel... Marchfield/Mission approved exacta box

jcs11204 06-21-2008 11:44 PM

THE More i look, and trust me i have looked a lot...
the more i think the filly is a lock, she is actually more of a lock on paper then big brown was... and she wont be anywhere near 1-5
i am thinking of keying her in the pick 3,4 and maybe a large win/ and backup place bet

jcs11204 06-21-2008 11:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CSC
And I thought Hockey was irrevelant? Before anyone gets on me I am joking. I like Hockey.

HOCKEY IS THE MAN AROUND THESE PARTS

Coach Pants 06-22-2008 12:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jcs11204
THE More i look, and trust me i have looked a lot...
the more i think the filly is a lock, she is actually more of a lock on paper then big brown was... and she wont be anywhere near 1-5
i am thinking of keying her in the pick 3,4 and maybe a large win/ and backup place bet

Send it in.


I think she's a horrible bet at a short price.

jcs11204 06-22-2008 12:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coach Pants
Send it in.


I think she's a horrible bet at a short price.

who then ? i have looked and looked and looked...
who else is there ?

Coach Pants 06-22-2008 12:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jcs11204
who then ? i have looked and looked and looked...
who else is there ?

Not completely sure but Took The Time and Solitaire look like they could get there if the race falls apart.

hockey2315 06-22-2008 12:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jcs11204
who then ? i have looked and looked and looked...
who else is there ?

There's nothing that says you have to bet every race. . . I barely have an opinion but Took the Time looks a little bit interesting. . .


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