Big Time Pedigree (Half to Indian Blessing!)
 

The 2-year-old colt Spaniard has never raced, and already he has a reputation as something special. That happens when your half-sister is champion filly Indian Blessing, when your works are outstanding, and your trainer is Bob Baffert. It goes against protocol to hype a first-time starter, but Baffert has trained enough top colts to know Spaniard could be the real deal... CONTINUES: http://www.ntra.com/content.aspx?type=news&id=33116



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I can't exactly put my finger on why, but reading this line from you really made me laugh.
However, I must admit that I was SHOCKED to learn that this horse you were discussing wasn't even a Giant's Causeway. I'll at least give you a few points for expanding your horizons.

It came straight from the article on DRF actually. Your initial train of thought most likely holds truth.

there is a giants causeway in this race... but candy ride will be one of my favorites now, talk about a freak on the track

I'm actually interested to see how his babies do too.. But please don't do the Giant's Causeway treatment with him. I want to like Candy Ride.

i wont i promise, i bet one the other day at woodbine, 7 or 8-1 i dont remember but he won.

This article makes this horse an absolute bet against....I mean who writes a daily feature article about a two year old that has never started...talk about the mush. My guess is Free probably like someone else in the race.

Yeah, Brad would really do that.

There was an awful lot written about Empire Maker before he ever ran.

oh, now you are comparing him to empire maker....I got the field in the pick four against this 1-5 shot.

I'm not comparing him to Empire Maker, and you know I would bet against this kind of hype in a heartbeat, I was just giving an example of an unraced horse that got a ton of hype before he ever started. Of course, you could also cite the Green Monkey, but that's kind of a different story.

you also know that I am kidding, rest here probably didnt but you did.

the thing with the green monkey is no one ever, to my memory, every hyped him as being good.

probably the two horses i remember recently as super hyped horses well before they started were the aforementioned empire maker and vindication.

Unbridled Song was a HUGE hype horse before running. I think he was scratched out of a Monmouth maiden race before showing up at Saratoga.

He was a $1 million buyback at the 2YO sale ( I feel like it was Barretts ) which at that time was HUGE.

all three of those horses won like something good as well, vindication broke slow from the rail, rushed up and was cut off, waited and slid around the horse who cut him off to draw away at will. unbridled's song probably won the easiest just crushing from the onset, and if i remember empire song was stuck outside and was wide while starting at a mile, never an easy thing to do.

Empire Maker's race, however, turned into one of the great negative key races of all time. Everyone wanted to bet back anyone who lost to the supposed mighty one.....and they came back to run like garbage, one after another, from what I remember.

Unbridled Song was the real deal. What a horse he could have been.

A pair of Drysdale two year olds come to mind when thinking of hyped of horses prior to their debuts.

AP Indy and FuPeg.

I also remember Lukas, moments after buying a full sibling to Terlingua, proclaiming she was so perfect, it looked like she could go out there right now and run 1:09. This was as a yearling! I think she sold for about 1.9 million. She didn't do much.

one of the best horses FuPeg ever beat was in that mdn race, and it was not by much.

It's amazing he was able to accomplish what he did.. considering how he was handled.. I remember after he won the Juvenile, Paragallo said without a doubt he was the next triple crown winner.

Here's his maiden race... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1q5iovTCxwE

Boy, I hope Seattleallstar unloads on this colt (and tells us he's doing so before hand) so we will know he's a cinch to bet-against!

Ryerson is a good trainer... Paragallo screwed that horse!

i dont think you need all if your against him... i would use the giants causeway and the eoin harty firsters.

Half Ours was the KD winner as per Cordero before he ever ran

I think he said that after his first start.

I was there for his maiden score... 11-years-old, but I remember it like it were yesterday. I attended my first Breeders' Cup later that year when he out-gamed Hennessy (and of course Cigar later won). And when he turned for home with the lead in the Derby, I went nuts. He was definitely one of my all-time favorites.

ya he is my all-time favorite... the reason I started following horse racing when I was 12.

Who knows how much better my life would be had that not happened!

At least Spainard is assured of avoiding trouble inside with Mike Smith to take him WIDE.:rolleyes:

interesting..... he is not the morning line favorite, the other candy ride is.... the ae from harty is the main danger if he draws in

have you looked at the race ? if bafferts anywhere near 3-1, and harty does not draw in... i think hes a great bet, even at 5-2, but i doubt you will get anywhere near that

well, the sad thing is the poor colt will probably buck shins before his 3rd race :(

why is that ?

see maimonides...

lol... whatever you say

If that baffert horse can run, like his others that were at this stage, if he is not even money then you are best not to be playing him. If he is 3/1 then see if the horse has all four legs.

Still waiting on that one to come back...What was the name of that black horse he was ao high on this past year? Haven't seen that one either :(

25 min to post... i know this is premature... but this could be a key race :)

4/5 at 4 min to post. now there is some value.

finished up the track, what a shocker.