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wapete 06-09-2008 03:16 PM

Belmont & W/E Beyers
 
Belmont 06/06 - Brooklyn H. (G2) DELOSVIENTOS 107
Belmont 06/06 - Hill Prince S. (G3) GIO PONTI 96

Belmont 06/07 - True North H. (G2) BENNY THE BULL 106
Belmont 06/07 - Just a Game S. (G1) VENTURA 101
Belmont 06/07 - Acorn S. (G1) ZAFTIG 113
Belmont 06/07 - Woody Stephens S. (G2) J BE K 108
Belmont 06/07 - Manhattan H. (G1) DANCING FOREVER 104
Belmont 06/07 - Belmont S. (G1) DA 'TARA 99

Undercard:

BEL 1 - Desert Key 104
BEL 2 - Sixthirteen 85
BEL 3 - Piazza Di Spagna 78
BEL 4 - Forefathers 107
BEL 5 - Endless Circle 78
BEL 12 - Roll the Di 78
BEL 13 - Megapixel 87


Hollywood 06/07 - Whittingham Memorial H. (G1) ARTISTE ROYAL 101
Hollywood 06/07 - Honeymoon H. (G2) MISTY OCEAN 90
Hollywood 06/07 - Ack Ack H. (G3) REBELLION 98


Woodbine 06/07 - Eclipse S. (G3) TRUE METROPOLITAN 103

Scav 06-09-2008 03:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wapete
Anyone have them from Saturday's card?

99 i think

wapete 06-09-2008 03:17 PM

What did JBK get?

Scav 06-09-2008 03:17 PM

159

wapete 06-09-2008 03:19 PM

looked like it - what's a good source for the whole card?

Scav 06-09-2008 03:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wapete
looked like it - what's a good source for the whole card?

Kasept will post it when it becomes available

wapete 06-09-2008 03:20 PM

awesome... thx

Sightseek 06-09-2008 03:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wapete
What did JBK get?

108

Sightseek 06-09-2008 03:27 PM

Zaftig got a 113...sadly those numbers are practically unheard of lately.

blackthroatedwind 06-09-2008 03:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sightseek
Zaftig got a 113...sadly those numbers are practically unheard of lately.

Are you sure of that?

I thought it was 107 or 108.

Sightseek 06-09-2008 03:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
Are you sure of that?

I thought it was 107 or 108.

http://www.drf.com/drfLeaderBoard.do?category=beyer

The Indomitable DrugS 06-09-2008 03:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sightseek
Zaftig got a 113...sadly those numbers are practically unheard of lately.

That's a bit of a questionable figure - it would give Indian Blessing a 105 as well. Forefathers ran the same time at the same distance earlier in the day.

Just from glancing - it looks like they have the track slowing down some.

Holland Hacker 06-09-2008 03:43 PM

I think the track did slow down through out the day. The first race went as fast or nearly as fast as the True North.

I do remember thinking that the track was getting slower as the races went on.

The Indomitable DrugS 06-09-2008 03:46 PM

The winner of the first had a dream trip and ran huge - and I think the True North was really lacking, but yeah, it's very possible I suppose.

jcs11204 06-09-2008 03:54 PM

so 113 ? does that mean at a mile, she would destroy zenyatta ?

hockey2315 06-09-2008 04:03 PM

They must have changed that fig because it was a 107 yesterday. . .

Antitrust32 06-09-2008 04:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS
The winner of the first had a dream trip and ran huge - and I think the True North was really lacking, but yeah, it's very possible I suppose.


I've read that they weren't able to water the track for awhile.. which would maybe explain the track slowing. Supposedly it was a lot more loose or sandy for the belmont stakes.

blackthroatedwind 06-09-2008 04:12 PM

Beyer may be on ABC Nightly News tonight.

Hopefully he will touch on the apparent split variant from Belmont Day. Let's be honest, it's a far bigger story than Big Brown.

blackthroatedwind 06-09-2008 04:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Antitrust32
Supposedly it was a lot more loose or sandy for the belmont stakes.


Only for Big Brown.

Antitrust32 06-09-2008 04:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
Only for Big Brown.


The final time seemed really slow too... but again, the horses who ran are really slow so that may have something to do with it!!

Kasept 06-09-2008 04:18 PM

W/E Beyers
 
Belmont 06/06 - Brooklyn H. (G2) DELOSVIENTOS 107
Belmont 06/06 - Hill Prince S. (G3) GIO PONTI 96

Belmont 06/07 - True North H. (G2) BENNY THE BULL 106
Belmont 06/07 - Just a Game S. (G1) VENTURA 101
Belmont 06/07 - Acorn S. (G1) ZAFTIG 113
Belmont 06/07 - Woody Stephens S. (G2) J BE K 108
Belmont 06/07 - Manhattan H. (G1) DANCING FOREVER 104
Belmont 06/07 - Belmont S. (G1) DA 'TARA 99

Undercard:

BEL 1 - Desert Key 104
BEL 2 - Sixthirteen 85
BEL 3 - Piazza Di Spagna 78
BEL 4 - Forefathers 107
BEL 5 - Endless Circle 78
BEL 12 - Roll the Di 78
BEL 13 - Megapixel 87


Hollywood 06/07 - Whittingham Memorial H. (G1) ARTISTE ROYAL 101
Hollywood 06/07 - Honeymoon H. (G2) MISTY OCEAN 90
Hollywood 06/07 - Ack Ack H. (G3) REBELLION 98


Woodbine 06/07 - Eclipse S. (G3) TRUE METROPOLITAN 103

Bobby Fischer 06-09-2008 04:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bsf

Belmont 06/07 - True North H. (G2) BENNY THE BULL 106
BEL 1 - Desert Key 104 :p WTFLZCOPTER ----__o__----

Belmont 06/07 - Belmont S. (G1) DA 'TARA 99 :D RAWFLZ


benny the bull 102
desert key 104
da'tara 84

ArlJim78 06-09-2008 05:45 PM

I don't think Big Brown was a lock to produce a 99 in the Belmont even at full strength. He had a declining pattern going in and personally I didn't expect that 12F was his best distance.

hoovesupsideyourhead 06-09-2008 07:58 PM

zaftig 113 with out the whip..........:D

ArlJim78 06-09-2008 07:59 PM

Zaftig ran a beauty, what a beast.

robfla 06-09-2008 10:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kasept
Belmont 06/06 - Brooklyn H. (G2) DELOSVIENTOS 107

Is it me, or does this horse have the ugliest stride ever seen? Looks like he is about to fall over when he runs.

i'll guess he will show up in the BC Marathon

cmorioles 06-09-2008 10:30 PM

A couple I find fishy this weekend...

Zatfig 113? They boosted it 6 or so points from the races ran on both sides of it for no real reason.

Delosvientos 107? I have no real idea where in the world they pulled that number from.

jcs11204 06-09-2008 10:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cmorioles
A couple I find fishy this weekend...

Zatfig 113? They boosted it 6 or so points from the races ran on both sides of it for no real reason.

Delosvientos 107? I have no real idea where in the world they pulled that number from.

Delosvientos i agree with you about i had 97...

zarfig was impressive, but i dont really get it, are you telling me indian ran her best career race on sat ?

cmorioles 06-09-2008 10:39 PM

I'm saying the race is too high as others have noted. The 113 has to be a typo.

robfla 06-10-2008 08:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
How do you go about making your figures?

I cant wait to hear the answer. Should be a classic

NTamm1215 06-10-2008 08:21 AM

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Just click below.

NT

parsixfarms 06-10-2008 08:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
Only for Big Brown.

And didn't they ask NYRA to slow the track down after the real fast (time wise) race that Not For Money ran about two weeks ago? They got the track they asked for; now it's an excuse. Unbelieveable.

Sightseek 06-11-2008 09:01 AM

per Crist's blog on DRF, if you don't split the variant for Zaftig and come up with a 107, that would still tie Sky Beauty as having the highest Beyer for an Acorn victory. (Not that Zaftig is Sky Beauty by any means)


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