Dutrow should be suspended AGAIN
 

Is he kidding me with this statement. This is a guy who has ganged up on top horses himself.

Dutrow was also asked if he was concerned that other riders in the Belmont would “gang up” on Big Brown. He was reminded that some people accused riders of doing that to Smarty Jones when he was defeated by Birdstone in the 2004 Belmont Stakes.

“I don’t believe anyone would do something like that,” he said. “If they did, they might get assassinated after the race. I can’t imagine they would do that."

Last I checked we live in the USA where you are allowed to say what you want...even if it's crazy stuff like that.

Spuder

You don't have to break laws to be suspended.

Jockin'

Give him a break - I doubt he even knows what assassinated means - too many syllables.

no worries. i called the hyperbole police. they said they'll break him in so many pieces no one would ever put him back together.

There are going to be a lot of people putting lots of money on Big Brown. Some may not take kindly to other horses/jocks running a race where winning is not their primary goal. I believe that's what Dutrow is saying. I don't think he's threatening death by his own hand to people that "gang up" on Big Brown.

I see you have made 22 post now I was thinking that 15 or 20 of those need to be Suspended.:D :D

Keep this one in mind when we are voting for Worst Thread of 2008.

It's going to have to wilt in the stretch to lose this title.

I'll try and keep it going.....




Dutrow criticizes Servis, Elliott

During Tuesday's conference call, Dutrow was asked if he feared someone trying to ride the Belmont just to beat Big Brown. It has been suggested by some observers that jockeys Jerry Bailey and Alex Solis moved their horses early in an attempt to force Smarty Jones and Elliott into a premature move.

Dutrow said he didn't believe that to be the case and criticized trainer John Servis and Elliott for the way they prepared Smarty Jones for the Belmont. Dutrow erroneously said that Smarty Jones had his last Belmont work over a sloppy sealed track at Philadelphia Park. The track was labeled fast for that move.

Dutrow, however, said Elliott should have taken Smarty Jones in hand late in the Preakness rather than win by 11 1/2 lengths.

"He did not need to win the way he did in the Preakness in order to get to the Belmont the right way," Dutrow said. "If you noticed our horse, Kent may have asked him for a little run turning for home, which he did, but at the eighth pole he grabbed a hold and he knew we still had another race to go through. I think that the connections of Smarty Jones just were not smart in order to get their job done for the Belmont."

The criticisms meant little to Servis.

"He's under a lot of pressure and a lot of times we say things we don't mean," Servis said. "I'm taking it with a grain of salt."

Gonna need a lot of grains to get over the fact that he rode an idiot who got his horse beat in the BEL.

Oh, and I didn't need to quote any of the 'experts' on this.

Fatman...your post makes it look like I said these things.

Retract at once or you will hear from my legal counsel.

Settle down now, Babe.

While Servis/Elliott could be criticized for running off with the Preakness, Elliott did not ride him poorly in the Belmont. Horses went out of their form to push Smarty. They ended up tailing off while Smarty was still fighting in the stretch. I don't think they will do the same with Brown though. I think they were out to beat Smarty because they didn't like this upstart trainer from this small track with a small time jock winning the triple against them. Smarty was an excellent horse who would have been great if he could have over-come that gang-up.

Now if you want to get me started on a jock who I think is highly over-rated and prone to compromising his horse out of an inability to manage his anger, lets talk Sleepy (Kenny D.).

Someone let me know when Stewie Elliot doesn't give a bad ride. That's a bigger lock than the sun coming up.

Hes in the same league as Noberto Arroyo

Norberto is ten times the rider Elliot is.

What about Rodney Prescott?

I agree with Dutrow 100% about what he said about Smarty Jones. These horses are not machines. You don't want to squeeze the lemon dry. When you have to run 3 times in 5 weeks, you have to leave something in the tank. I've always though that if Stewart Elliot would have geared Smarty Jones down in the Preakness and cruised home by 5 lengths, he would have probably won the Belmont.

The reason I think that Big Brown will win the Belmont is because he wasn't even close to being all out in the Preakness and the race probably didn't take that much out of him. He should be able to come back in 3 weeks and win.

This is nonsense. SJ would have problems getting 12f no matter what. He simply was not a 12f horse. He had too many problems settling whenever he ran.

Throw in Prado riding Birdstone and you had the recipe for an upset. Just like when Prado beat War Emblem with Sarava. I am beginning to see a pattern here. We will see if Spark Candle can rattle Kent. Wouldn't be the first time. What will that make 3x Prado took down a potential triple crown. No coincidence there.

Prado wasn't the reason for Birdstone's upset.

Wasn't War Emblem somewhere in the vicinity of last?

Horses win races.....jockeys lose them.

This thread made we laugh, cry and scratch my head...The Triple Crown...

i was going to defend smarty by pointing out he finished 2nd by a length but then i finished reading the post and my head exploded.

i really didn't want to defend him anyway.

he is turning into a joke..... too much white stuff, and way too much partying.

Like you? ;)

i dont party, but really his comments on curlin and casino drive are insane.... way to arrogant, way to cocky...

Did Bailey ride bad in the Belmont by
whipping Eddington to death so early?
I guess the horse needed a little waking up.

Bailey absolutley used that horse.
He was fried and had no chance.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a4Z49x11smk

Here is the replay.

Remember Bailey on Eddington...that subtle pressure just took enough out of him in the stretch for Birdstone to run on by.

This is just my opinion but had Bailey ridden SJ that day and not Stu Elliot. I don't think he would have panicked and Smarty Jones would be a TC winner today. He didn't need to inject him into the race so early, when he probably should have been sitting 3rd behind the speed.

Wow. Welcome aboard Quiet Chris. By the way, congratulations for reaching douchebag status in record time. Keep up the good work.

And then he whips the horse when he is fried.
I guess he was worried about the superfecta.

my feelings are dutrow is a scumbag, does drugs, and picks up hookers... i know that to be a 100% fact....
as for big brown, casino drive....ROYAL PEDIGREE.... and i belive he beats him next sat. and i will be making a large win bet on casino

Please shut up.

no, go for it.... i will listen, i can back off... i guess single on back end of a pick 4 is safer, could actually win more, and lose less

why ? you might not like what i said, but its true... actually, him and his pal frankel

I recommend following in Dutrow's footsteps - that Casino Drive win money would be better spent on a hooker. . .

I can hardly wait for your Belmont Day picks. Please try to get them up early.