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Some of you might remember this Zimbabwe bred filly/mare that won the Dubai Duty Free and was came over for Team Valor and won her only US start before being retired with an injury. Anyhooo, her first foal is scheduled to debut in the 7th race at Belmont Saturday in a 7F turf race. Sadler's Wells is the sire of this 3YO.

That was brutal when she got hurt... Was exciting as hell when she came here.

Did you expect much of her when she came here? That was one of the all-time negative trainer changes

I know I was looking forward to betting against her.

don't remember who the trainer was going to be

sheppard, dickinson, ward ?

she was going to be my pick to win the Beverly D that year..... oh well.

LOL.

Eric

It wasn't a "was" -- it was actually an "is" . . . She was in training over here, raced and was retired after she got hurt, under the care of her new trainer.

The trainer change was Mike de Kock to Eliott Walden.

Eric

From chocolate icecream to sh it

Barry Irwin would never put any of his horses, that he uses others money to buy, in the hands of an incompentent trainer. He uses guys like Mark Hening :confused: & Ralph Nicks :eek: as his trainers. :rolleyes:

thanks for the answer. I didn't know he was still training

He is not training today. This was back when the horse was purchased, brought over here to the US, raced and retired.

Eric

I'll tell ya all a funny story about EW-boy wonder trainer.

I was a part owner in a excellent 2yo that won his 1st race in open company 7f at SAR in 2002. He breezed a 35 and change in a prerace work. Ran down some very good horses in that race and won impressively. Next out ran 3rd in the Champagne Stakes @ Bel. WinStar made a 75% $700,000 private purchase from us for this colt as he was an early Derby horse and they didn't have one Derby Eligible or ready.

So EW gets his hands on this colt who never has been injured...and you guess it...all types of things start happening which is not so uncommon.

But the best part is as a 3 yo he races the same colt at SAR, horse runs poorly. I go to the barn to visit my colt (which is now a gelding, unbeknownst to the 25% remaining owners) and he makes the comment that the colt hates the track. Now this is the same colt that ran the daylights on the same surface only 11 months prior. I just looked at this guy in amazement..like he never knew this colt won his initial race over the same surface and worked a 35 breeze. I knew then that this guy was clueless. He didn't last much longer as WinStars trainer either shortly after that.

Hi.

Might be a pretty good one. . .

Yeah. Thanks. I owe you a coke.

When you posted this, I automatically assumed we were looking at 2-1 tops. Jayeff B/Alan Goldberg seemed to spend a lot of money at the sales, hope this one pans out. Seems like they haven't had a prominent horse since the good turf 3yo Navesink several years back.

Nice Call Andy !!! :)

Pretty loaded maiden race! This looks like a nice horse in the making.

A coke? An eight ball is more like it!

LOL :D

Goldberg really needs to buy some lottery tickets. Last year he puts Catmosphere over like a good thing when the rail opens up for her entering the stretch. (He paid for it next time out when she PUKED as the chalk, I believe.)

Today, Manastic Springs:

1) gets taken out by the 1A at the break

2) rushes up in what MIRACULOUSLY is a wide open rail the length of the backstretch in a 12 horse field

3) returns the favor to the 1A by intimidating that one going into the turn by coming out and forcing it to check

4) causes a severe chain reaction late, very nicely taking the 9 out of the race

The 9, TONS THE BEST, was also taken out entering the stretch in an earlier chain reaction. (Some DOOFUS over at PA is referring to him as a 'hanger' that wouldn't have won anyway. RIGHT.)

Congrats to those who had him. But, no whining about tough beats for the next few days.;)

I mean, I don't know who I have LESS CONFIDENCE in at this point; the NYRA stewards; the chartmaker for the NYRA races; or the VIDEO crew at NYRA.

IMO the second finisher caused the winner to bear out when he herded him in midstretch.

I had the race on DVR and watched the head on multiple times and you are absolutely correct. When Coa went to the right handed whip his horse drifted towards the rail. Once he went to the left whip the horse veered to the outside. Montastic Springs veered out because of He Struck It Rich drifting over. The stewards made the correct decision to keep him up on top.

I think that you'll agree that, by definition, in order to 'herd', a horse needs to be somewhat abreast another horse. Monastic Springs was a length behind Coa, at least, at the time of the 'herding'. The pan shot clearly shows this. And, Prado is sticking lefty heavily just before the incident. If there's another shot that shows this to NOT be the case, then I'm wrong. I'll assume the pan shot is an optical illusion.

Clearly, Coa came out, shutting MS off. But that doesn't mean he needs to bully his way through.

Let's assume, however, that MS WAS herded. Then, how about we take the 5 down? Horses are getting bounced around like billiard balls in the stretch and NOTHING happened and NO ONE is to blame?

This is a flat out joke. If this happens in any other venue, commisioners are publically apologizing and privately reprimanding.

Very nice call, BTW, but to be fair, you're not the only smart guy out there:
http://www.jessicachapel.com/railbird/

The only idiot in this thread is me, who got stuck on a plane and missed a score on this horse that I had planned on betting on Andy's recommendation.

Nice call, I am truly shocked she paid $27.80. That is borderline ridiculous.

Nicely bred firster in today's 4th at Belmont.

9 - Queenofalldiamonds

Kingmambo/Escena

for Frankel/Gomez

The other foal by Escena cost $3.7 million and pretty much couldn't run.

Nice call. Wish I could have been there to bet that one...

Different son of Mr. Prospector will do the trick? Even though she is making her first start at 4, this one has shown some life in the am.

I find Madam Bling interesting in this race as a price play.

I thought the same thing before and immediately after the race. I was shocked to see that Halation, the 70-1 winner of the NY-bred MSW race in the 5th, actually ran the same distance 2/5 of a second faster.

I am well and you...

They are born with an advantage, you know

Yeah the water is better in NY

I benefitted from the stewards ruling but I still don't think it was the correct call.

This filly FINALLY broke her maiden yesterday at Keenland...She's been on my "One to watch" list and paid $14.00..Be interesting to see where she goes from here...