Perspective
 

Magnificence returned yesterday at Hollywood with a win. There have been 3678 Threads about Big Brown and not a mention of her.

Racing hasn't stopped because of Big Brown....thank God.

Much like racing's problems won't stop with a Big Brown Triple Crown. We're a near-sighted society. Very good point.

how did she look?

Don't know what to make of that race. If you forced me to choose between great and piss...I'd choose the latter.

Her boyfriend, BIGMACK, over at PA was all over that. In fact, he's been anticipating her return very eagerly as if she were his girlfriend away on vacation. Too bad she didn't exactly shine yesterday. Sort of like MACK finding his sweetie had gained a few pounds in the interim.

How many Threads on Eight Bells?

Great, another thread about Big Brown.

Not very good, had to work real hard to beat her stablemate actually, down the stretch she looked like she was beat, and beat bad but she grinded it out.....

it was a long layoff, but she was all out to beat her unheralded stablemate yesterday. still she's undefeated and I guess still has a fair amount of upside.
i'm not convinced that she'll stretch out well, if that is what they intend to do with her.

It wasn't the most impressive return. But like other said, it was off a long layoff.. and on the cushion track. so who knows?

Maybe cause she looked like a shell of her former self?

It was definitely a disappointing comeback. . . I thought she'd be one of the best horses in training this year. . .

just barely got it done..but was carried quite wide at the top of the stretch...but still should have dominated..but didn't.

I never like the layoff excuse for a horse that was able to win their career debut. Especially as impressively as she did. That told me she could run well without having to round into shape. I was thoroughly disappointed in her return.

She won how disappointed could you be. Is she suppose to win by 10 in her firse race in forever? Your tough geez

It's tough to expect stakes horses to look like stakes horses when running against lower level types?

Wasn't it like her third race? Have a heart...Obviously something went wrong with her and she needed time. She comes back at 6.5 wins and you are disappointed.. Perhaps when she won at first asking she wasn't coming off an injury?

Perhaps. Who knows, maybe she comes out next time and wins by 20 earning a 120 Beyer? But that won't have anything to do with yesterday's race. Yesterday, I was disappointed because I wanted to see more. Now, that doesn't necessarily equate to saying she was disappointing. Just that my expectations weren't reach so I was disappointed.

What do you expect from KG, he just suggested that a horse able to win its debut against NON-WINNERS is somehow obligated to win its comeback following injury against multiple WINNERS in impressive fashion.

Not to mention handle a dramatic surface switch from dirt to synthetic.

don't forget her prior two races where on dirt, and all her training has been at Santa Anita.

its not automatic when they cross over to the Hollywood cushion that the form follows, especially on the first try.

or she may not be the same now. time will tell.

She also won the stake at Santa Anita against winners. I used the debut race to say that in my eyes, she has proven she can run well fresh, how how much she should win by. In my opinion, I didn't see the same pureness in her running that I did in her two races last year. But again, I'm not saying that she ran a disappointing race but only that the results didn't meet the expectations that I had for her. Judging by the responses in this thread, I don't think I'm alone. I don't think many people expect 2/5 shots to be all out to nose out 25/1 shot either. But hey, maybe yesterday was exactly what you expected so you are thrilled. I don't know.

From Webster's:

disappoint: fail to fulfill the expectations of (someone)

I mentioned her last week before she ran to let everyone know. She has always been on my radar for a comeback race and I was glad to see she won even by a nose.. Hope she stays sound and can show us what she is capable of.

http://www.derbytrail.com/forums/showthread.php?t=22424

M a g n i f i c i e n c e

Which is exactly what I said. I'm sure she met the expectations of some. But just not mine. It's no different than Michael Jordan going out and scoring 50 and saying he's disappointed in his game because he went 6-12 from the line. A good performance can be disappointing to someone if that someone had higher expectations than just seeing a good performance.

What does Webster's say about "perspective"?

From King Glorious's:

perspective: condescending, myopic point of view that fails to take into account a myriad of immeasurable factors influencing overt phenomena, often resulting in extremes in judgment.

I was not impressed at all and that spin that Headley threw out there was laughable, his barn comes out full throttle, not this need a race junk. She would get drowned right now by Zenyetta.

Funny how in this thread, several people said they were either disappointed or otherwise unimpressed yet you chose to pick me out of the lineup to have issue with. But I'm the condescending member of this forum. Yeah, let's go with that. Appreciate you taking the time to reply.

Yes, several people were disappointed in her comeback, but most of those also cited the 14-month layoff as a significant hurdle for her to overcome. You chose to negate that simply because she was precocious enough to win her debut against other maidens, completely ignoring the fact that she had an injury that necessitated surgery and had never set foot on a synthetic surface until her reappearance.

From your posts, you seem to expect a horse, once it's reached a certain level of performance, to maintain its best possible form the rest of its career regardless of circumstance. That's pretty ironic coming from a guy who has Java Gold and King Glorious as the two best horses in the last 20 years, when the former got his azz kicked in an allowance comeback the summer of his 3yo year and the latter got browbeat at 1-9 odds in a minor stakes in his first start around two turns...

What does Webster's say about "progression"?

The whole question from Andy was why there is no buzz on the return of Mag. The reason there is no buzz is cause she ran like a shell of her former self. What is to get excited about? Should we be excited that Brass Hat is running this weekend? Delightful Kiss? Where do we draw the line on horses that were once good (being kind to DK) and no longer are but we still have to have threads about them?

There was no buzz because everyone was ignoring everything else in racing outside of Big Brown and Casino Drive. Not wholly surprising but I think there's a lot more going on and Magnificence's return was a big story regardless of how she ran.

There are various things in racing that have gone unnoticed because of the TC but her less than stellar return was hardly the most significant one of them. Had she come back and run a huge race it would have been all over. Hell, I'm the one who even gave Daaher love last year when I thought he was nothing special but couldn't believe there was no buzz about him.