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ateamstupid 05-12-2008 08:36 PM

Ready's Image returns BEL Weds.
 
Runs in the 6 1/2-furlong Adjudicating, prepping for the G2 Woody Stephens at 7 panels on Belmont Day. Not the easiest field, however..

3rd (2:04) Adjudicating S.

6 1/2 Furlongs | Open | 3 Year Olds Stakes | Purse: $75,000

Post # Horse Jockey Weight Claim Price Equip. Med.
1 True Quality Lopez C C 118 L
2 Ready's Image Velazquez J R 120 L
3 Api Mohkat Garcia Alan 118 L
4 Desert Key Prado E S 118 L
5 Smoke'n Coal Gomez G K 118 L

blackthroatedwind 05-12-2008 09:42 PM

I'm pitching him.

ateamstupid 05-12-2008 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
I'm pitching him.

Not the worst idea. There are a few runners in there.

Very good card, with a few super turf races carded to cancel out some of the dreck.

blackthroatedwind 05-12-2008 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid
Not the worst idea. There are a few runners in there.

Very good card, with a few super turf races carded to cancel out some of the dreck.


There are 2 1/2 horses that might be OK and I just hate taking short prices on horses coming back from injuries. It's more that than the field. If he's the horse he was last summer he can't lose but I'll let him beat me to find out.

hoovesupsideyourhead 05-12-2008 10:06 PM

agreed 1/4 and 1/2 =5

blackthroatedwind 05-12-2008 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by hoovesupsideyourhead
agreed 1/4 and 1/2 =5


Good luck. I don't think a lot of True Quality but he did run pretty well last time. He didn't even break sharply. He better get out fast Wednesday.

On the other hand.....I am not sure I even understand your post. It wouldn't be the first time. In fact, I don't understand too much these days. I'm too consumed with Casino Drive and Big Brown.

hoovesupsideyourhead 05-12-2008 10:21 PM

you said 2 1/2 horses ..i think the 1 and the 4 look good and the 5 has half a shot..

in the sixth the 3,7,8.. look pretty good does anyone think the 1 or 4 have a shot.......

blackthroatedwind 05-12-2008 10:23 PM

I thought the 4 and 5 were the whole horses and the 1 was the half but I suppose I could be underrating him.

Good luck with Continental Reins off a 19 month layoff in the 6th. I'm guessing he'll be able to see 'em all. It's a trickier race than it appears on paper. Riptide isn't impossible but there are a few that are open. Holiday Trip will beat me on the front end.

hoovesupsideyourhead 05-12-2008 10:29 PM

all is good when you see "seeking the money" entered lol.. and my opinion is weak at best of late..

blackthroatedwind 05-12-2008 10:31 PM

The 8th is a good race. A couple of horses in there are coming off less than stellar trips/rides.

ateamstupid 05-12-2008 10:32 PM

The 6th is basically the very good turf race they carded for Friday that got rained off. I can't come up with anything cute in there, as I figure the race goes through Moral Compass and Continental Reins. Holiday Trip, is indeed, quite the chandelier.

hoovesupsideyourhead 05-12-2008 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
The 8th is a good race. A couple of horses in there are coming off less than stellar trips/rides.

hate to say it but the 9 owes me some cash and will probebly come up short again......the 2 is the wildcard to me the dist does not seem to suit but when good he ran with some monsters

blackthroatedwind 05-12-2008 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid
The 6th is basically the very good turf race they carded for Friday that got rained off. I can't come up with anything cute in there, as I figure the race goes through Moral Compass and Continental Reins. Holiday Trip, is indeed, quite the chandelier.


IMO, if you take horses off 19 month layoffs, especially at reasonably short prices, you are crazy. Good luck to Continental Reins and anyone who bets him.

blackthroatedwind 05-12-2008 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by hoovesupsideyourhead
they did the same exact move with em last year..he got 3rd

That would be pretty incredible considering he never ran in 2007.

blackthroatedwind 05-12-2008 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
I think Cloud Nine is interesting in the 6th. Moral Compass seems like the one to beat, although I don't want the short price he's going to be. What about Big Wig?


To me Big Wig will be way overbet because of his connections and pedigree. Yeah, maybe he always did need more distance, and it is interesting that an AP Indy won going 6F, but his races were SLOW.

I don't get Cloud Nine at all.

hoovesupsideyourhead 05-12-2008 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
That would be pretty incredible considering he never ran in 2007.

sorry saw the mohawk then the layoff..

blackthroatedwind 05-12-2008 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
I think Cloud Nine's two turf races are okay. Another step forward and he can be close I think.


I beg to differ.

blackthroatedwind 05-12-2008 11:12 PM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
:rolleyes:


If you like him you must love Riptide. They are in different galaxies. I thought Cloud Nine's last race was extremely mediocre.

ateamstupid 05-12-2008 11:17 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
IMO, if you take horses off 19 month layoffs, especially at reasonably short prices, you are crazy. Good luck to Continental Reins and anyone who bets him.

Jerkens is very good off of long breaks, and even though this one is super long, the horse still probably has a few good races in him with only 14 career starts. Plus, although I said it was a very good field before, there isn't anyone I can really get excited over at a price. Riptide appears slow, Cloud Nine is running for the third time in four weeks, Gravitational and Big Wig are coming off of considerable layoffs and were slow last year, Riz Sauvage is decent, but beat nothing in his two recent wins, Holiday Trip is a hanger.. Who's your alternative to Continental Reins and Moral Compass?

blackthroatedwind 05-12-2008 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid
Jerkens is very good off of long breaks, and even though this one is super long, the horse still probably has a few good races in him with only 14 career starts. Plus, although I said it was a very good field before, there isn't anyone I can really get excited over at a price. Riptide appears slow, Lava Cat is running for the third time in four weeks, Gravitational and Big Wig are coming off of considerable layoffs and were slow last year, Riz Sauvage is decent, but beat nothing in his two recent wins, Holiday Trip is a hanger.. Who's your alternative to Continental Reins and Moral Compass?


Lava Cat hasn't run since November.

You know I'm not definitively giving out who I would bet in here. I've said enough.

ateamstupid 05-12-2008 11:21 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
Lava Cat hasn't run since November.

You know I'm not definitively giving out who I would bet in here. I've said enough.

Edited to Cloud Nine. PM me then. I'm curious.

hoovesupsideyourhead 05-13-2008 08:47 PM

in the 7th pp 3 formal king and 2 bel vaggio look like tons best

hoovesupsideyourhead 05-14-2008 01:07 PM

that went well......

hockey2315 05-14-2008 01:11 PM

How many did he win by? . . i didn't see it. . .

ateamstupid 05-14-2008 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by hoovesupsideyourhead
that went well......

Nice race, considering that he didn't break all that well, but the time was pretty slow. I think it was only like two-fifths quicker than $30,000 claiming fillies ran in the first.

ateamstupid 05-14-2008 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by hockey2315
How many did he win by? . . i didn't see it. . .

3/4 of a length.

hockey2315 05-14-2008 01:17 PM

Grazie

blackthroatedwind 05-14-2008 01:41 PM

Boy, I thought he was decidedly unimpressive.

ateamstupid 05-14-2008 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
Boy, I thought he was decidedly unimpressive.

Yeah, he wasn't super, and the figure probably won't be big, but given that it was a prep for the Woody Stephens, I thought he ran fine.

10 pnt move up 05-14-2008 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid
Yeah, he wasn't super, and the figure probably won't be big, but given that it was a prep for the Woody Stephens, I thought he ran fine.

Not sure that is pletchers m.o. though, they usually fire first out, not the type of barn that needs a race to get going.

blackthroatedwind 05-14-2008 01:59 PM

He had a very good trip and worked extremely hard for a victory over moderate horses. I'm not sure who will be in the Woody Stephens but right now he looks up against it.

Maybe Todd is bringing him along slowly, but I agree with the poster that the barns usual MO is to have them cranked for a first start.

ateamstupid 05-14-2008 02:02 PM

Very possible, but I'll wait to see how he runs in the Woody Stephens before I totally judge this race.

Coach Pants 05-14-2008 02:02 PM

I'll be shocked if he ends up a top sprinter this year.

blackthroatedwind 05-14-2008 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid
Very possible, but I'll wait to see how he runs in the Woody Stephens before I totally judge this race.

That makes no sense to me.

ateamstupid 05-14-2008 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
That makes no sense to me.

:rolleyes: OK. If he runs better in the Woody Stephens, I'll be more inclined to say that his unspectacular effort was because he needed the race. If he runs the same or worse, I'll lean toward the opposite determination. That's about the best I can explain it.

blackthroatedwind 05-14-2008 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid
:rolleyes: OK. If he runs better in the Woody Stephens, I'll be more inclined to say that his unspectacular effort was because he needed the race. If he runs the same or worse, I'll lean toward the opposite determination. That's about the best I can explain it.


OK. Unfortunately, since I am guessing the Woody Stephens will be a race your are involved in financially ( at least in multi-race bets ), you may have to make at least some sort of determination beforehand.


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