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GenuineRisk 07-22-2006 07:44 PM

Movies you liked that everyone else hated
 
Okay, so what are some movies that you liked and everyone around you hated? Be prepared to defend why you liked it if challenged... I'll start--

I really liked "Unbreakable" (my friend Vinnie calls it "Unwatchable")

And I really liked "Very Bad Things" and "Happiness."

Yes, I really do have a friend named Vinnie.

somerfrost 07-22-2006 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by GenuineRisk
Okay, so what are some movies that you liked and everyone around you hated? Be prepared to defend why you liked it if challenged... I'll start--

I really liked "Unbreakable" (my friend Vinnie calls it "Unwatchable")

And I really liked "Very Bad Things" and "Happiness."

Yes, I really do have a friend named Vinnie.

Well, lets see....I liked the Buffy movie despite the ax job by the studio, Domino was OK (I think one other person saw it), The Adventures of Buckaroo Banzai is one of my favorites, Rabid (OK, I watched it to support Marilyn Chambers), Date Movie (at least Aly's parts)...and the best movie ever made that nobody saw...Serenity!!

ArlJim78 07-22-2006 08:31 PM

That's an easy one for me. I love the movie Waterworld with Kevin Costner. It's hard for me to explain why, I'm just down with the whole concept.

It was trashed by the critics as one of the worst movie bombs ever and I don't know anyone who didn't dislike it intensely.

PS: I also liked Very Bad Things.

somerfrost 07-22-2006 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by ArlJim78
That's an easy one for me. I love the movie Waterworld with Kevin Costner. It's hard for me to explain why, I'm just down with the whole concept.

It was trashed by the critics as one of the worst movie bombs ever and I don't know anyone who didn't dislike it intensely.

PS: I also liked Very Bad Things.

I also liked Waterworld!

ArlJim78 07-22-2006 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by somerfrost
I also liked Waterworld!

Well at least now I know of someone who didn't dislike it intensely!!


As far as underated movies that are on my alltime great list, I am watching one of best right now, The Big Lebowski. One of the alltime funniest imo.
"The dude abides"

ArlJim78 07-22-2006 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by somerfrost
Well, lets see....I liked the Buffy movie despite the ax job by the studio, Domino was OK (I think one other person saw it), The Adventures of Buckaroo Banzai is one of my favorites, Rabid (OK, I watched it to support Marilyn Chambers), Date Movie (at least Aly's parts)...and the best movie ever made that nobody saw...Serenity!!

What a coincidence, Serenity is starting now. Never seen it. You'd recommend it?

GenuineRisk 07-22-2006 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by ArlJim78
What a coincidence, Serenity is starting now. Never seen it. You'd recommend it?

I'll second Somer's approval of "Serenity." I enjoyed it a lot.

I didn't hate "Waterworld." I thought it was okay. Which was somehow more disapointing than if it had been the bomb the press claimed it was!

Hooray! ArlJim78 liked "Very Bad Things" too! I knew I wasn't alone! I thought it was hee-larious and by far the best thing Cameron Diaz has ever done.

somerfrost 07-22-2006 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by GenuineRisk
I'll second Somer's approval of "Serenity." I enjoyed it a lot.

I didn't hate "Waterworld." I thought it was okay. Which was somehow more disapointing than if it had been the bomb the press claimed it was!

Hooray! ArlJim78 liked "Very Bad Things" too! I knew I wasn't alone! I thought it was hee-larious and by far the best thing Cameron Diaz has ever done.

Too late now I know but Serenity was a wonderful movie...to really appreciate it, you had to see the series (Firefly) first but Joss did a wonderful job with the background info so all you miss is the deeper understanding of the characters...Summer Glau is wonderful as the psychotic death machine, River Tam...boy can she slash and chop! Summer was a prima ballerina prior to turning to acting and her fight scenes show that skill!

Pointg5 07-23-2006 08:22 AM

Donnie Darko

ArlJim78 07-23-2006 08:24 AM

Serenity
 
It wasn't my cup of tea and probably means a lot more to people that watched the series. Personally I had never heard of it before, the series or the movie. It was somewhat inventive but what I'll remember most is that the crew on Mal's ship were so good looking and have such great hair, which I think is no small feat when you're winging across the galaxy fighting a war.

Another observation about sci-fi in general, why do they always end up relying on people fighting each other in a hand to hand manner like with swords, judo, light sabers, etc? No matter how advanced humankind gets future wars always seem to end up with two guys having a well choreographed judo style fight. What's up with that? Wars aren't fought that way now much less in the future. Imagine if the battle of Baghdad boiled down to Rumsfeld (Yoda) and Hussien (Count Dooku) duking it out with swords in one of Saddams palaces.

irishtrekker 07-23-2006 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Pointg5
Donnie Darko

Did people not like that movie? It's a huge cult hit from what I know, and all of my friends and I really dig it...but maybe we're just weird. ;)

Pointg5 07-23-2006 08:33 AM

Salem's Lot, the new and old version, plus the book, imo the best Vampire Movie of all time...

Also...

The best movie of all time, that lot's of people did not like:

The Mothman Prophecies, excellent, this movie will freak you out...

Pointg5 07-23-2006 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by irishtrekker
Did people not like that movie? It's a huge cult hit from what I know, and all of my friends and I really dig it...but maybe we're just weird. ;)

I watched it with 3 people and they all did not like it, so I figured lots of people did not like it, maybe I was wrong. The were all like what the hell?

somerfrost 07-23-2006 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by ArlJim78
It wasn't my cup of tea and probably means a lot more to people that watched the series. Personally I had never heard of it before, the series or the movie. It was somewhat inventive but what I'll remember most is that the crew on Mal's ship were so good looking and have such great hair, which I think is no small feat when you're winging across the galaxy fighting a war.

Another observation about sci-fi in general, why do they always end up relying on people fighting each other in a hand to hand manner like with swords, judo, light sabers, etc? No matter how advanced humankind gets future wars always seem to end up with two guys having a well choreographed judo style fight. What's up with that? Wars aren't fought that way now much less in the future. Imagine if the battle of Baghdad boiled down to Rumsfeld (Yoda) and Hussien (Count Dooku) duking it out with swords in one of Saddams palaces.

Fair question...the whole point of Firefly (the TV series from which Serenity came) is that in the future, while the central planets have all sorts of advanced gizmos, the outer colonies are quite backward. It came out more in the series but they ride horses, live in small backward communities, raise cattle and crops...live pretty much as in the old west. Two distinct earth cultures survive (earth was rendered unliveable due to polution and lack of resources)...American and Chinese (makes sense...no?) and the average guy speaks both languages. A neat part of the show was that most swearing was done in Mandrin Chinese...got by the censors and sounded really cool! The movie just didn't have the time to highlight all that. There was a civil war between the colonies (rebels) and the centralized Alliance...the Alliance had overwhelming superiority and won. Capt Mal Reynolds and Zoe fought for the rebels and were best friends. After the war, Mal bought an old rust-bucket firefly model ship which he called Serenity after the turning-point battle of the war. It's this ship that they fly through the verse doing odd jobs (some legal, most not) staying one step ahead of the Alliance and avoiding the Reavers. They added a crew...Wash, the pilot and he married Zoe (very much the odd couple, warrior woman and well...Wash. But very much in love), Kaylee the ship's mechanic who Mal met one day when he walked in on her and his former mechanic having sex in the back of the ship while docked, Jayne..the muscle and less than trustworthy. He also rented a shuttle to a companion (prostitute) named Inara. In their time, companions were a highly honored profession and she added class to the ship. All went smoothly until they took on 4 passengers to help with costs. One turned out to be a government agent and Mal would eventually shoot him in the head and dump his body on an outer planet. Sheppard Book (read minister), and Simon and River Tam. Simon was a brilliant young surgeon who sacrificed everything to save his sister River. She was experimented on by the Alliance and, as it turns out, turned into a skilled and deadly human weapon...she also can read minds. Simon rescued her and the Alliance very much wanted her back (the movie finally explains why). The characters were so well developed despite the fact that the series lasted only 14 episodes (Fox butchered it, showed it out of sequence etc) and it was typical Whedon genius. There are no aliens in this future, just very down-to-earth folks struggling to get by facing the same problems we face today.

2Hot4TV 07-23-2006 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by ArlJim78
That's an easy one for me. I love the movie Waterworld with Kevin Costner. It's hard for me to explain why, I'm just down with the whole concept.

It was trashed by the critics as one of the worst movie bombs ever and I don't know anyone who didn't dislike it intensely.

PS: I also liked Very Bad Things.

Same for me Jim, If want to clear out the movie room all I have to do is play Waterworld.

ArlJim78 07-23-2006 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by somerfrost
Fair question...the whole point of Firefly (the TV series from which Serenity came) is that in the future, while the central planets have all sorts of advanced gizmos, the outer colonies are quite backward. It came out more in the series but they ride horses, live in small backward communities, raise cattle and crops...live pretty much as in the old west. Two distinct earth cultures survive (earth was rendered unliveable due to polution and lack of resources)...American and Chinese (makes sense...no?) and the average guy speaks both languages. A neat part of the show was that most swearing was done in Mandrin Chinese...got by the censors and sounded really cool! The movie just didn't have the time to highlight all that. There was a civil war between the colonies (rebels) and the centralized Alliance...the Alliance had overwhelming superiority and won. Capt Mal Reynolds and Zoe fought for the rebels and were best friends. After the war, Mal bought an old rust-bucket firefly model ship which he called Serenity after the turning-point battle of the war. It's this ship that they fly through the verse doing odd jobs (some legal, most not) staying one step ahead of the Alliance and avoiding the Reavers. They added a crew...Wash, the pilot and he married Zoe (very much the odd couple, warrior woman and well...Wash. But very much in love), Kaylee the ship's mechanic who Mal met one day when he walked in on her and his former mechanic having sex in the back of the ship while docked, Jayne..the muscle and less than trustworthy. He also rented a shuttle to a companion (prostitute) named Inara. In their time, companions were a highly honored profession and she added class to the ship. All went smoothly until they took on 4 passengers to help with costs. One turned out to be a government agent and Mal would eventually shoot him in the head and dump his body on an outer planet. Sheppard Book (read minister), and Simon and River Tam. Simon was a brilliant young surgeon who sacrificed everything to save his sister River. She was experimented on by the Alliance and, as it turns out, turned into a skilled and deadly human weapon...she also can read minds. Simon rescued her and the Alliance very much wanted her back (the movie finally explains why). The characters were so well developed despite the fact that the series lasted only 14 episodes (Fox butchered it, showed it out of sequence etc) and it was typical Whedon genius. There are no aliens in this future, just very down-to-earth folks struggling to get by facing the same problems we face today.

Thanks, I can see where there would be some appeal. It seems that the characters were fleshed out much more on the series.

I just had to laugh at one point after Mal stated how bad things were being chased by the assasin, the Reavers, and how he hadn't had anything to eat in a long time. Then I look aroung the ship at these girls with long manes of hair, obviously well taken care of, washed, curled, styled, etc, and I'm thinking to myself if he would just cut back on the hair care budget they might have some money to eat! Not picking on this show in particular, its pretty much what I do with all sci-fi, look for the incongruities. And they all have them. One of the all time best (worst) for this was the movie The Core. What a scream that one is. It's so bad that I have to watch it over and over!

somerfrost 07-23-2006 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by ArlJim78
Thanks, I can see where there would be some appeal. It seems that the characters were fleshed out much more on the series.

I just had to laugh at one point after Mal stated how bad things were being chased by the assasin, the Reavers, and how he hadn't had anything to eat in a long time. Then I look aroung the ship at these girls with long manes of hair, obviously well taken care of, washed, curled, styled, etc, and I'm thinking to myself if he would just cut back on the hair care budget they might have some money to eat! Not picking on this show in particular, its pretty much what I do with all sci-fi, look for the incongruities. And they all have them. One of the all time best (worst) for this was the movie The Core. What a scream that one is. It's so bad that I have to watch it over and over!

When I get another DVD player I'll have to watch for that, I don't recall them looking anything but realistic that way and Joss is a stickler for detail but I really didn't pay close attention to their hair! Seems like such a minor thing compared to the story, great dialogue and likeability of the characters.

ArlJim78 07-23-2006 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by irishtrekker
Did people not like that movie? It's a huge cult hit from what I know, and all of my friends and I really dig it...but maybe we're just weird. ;)

Thanks Pointg5 and Irishtrekker. I saw your comments about Donnie Darko and later noticed it was coming on so I checked it out. I loved it and can't wait to see it again sometime. I knew it would be good right from the opening segment when they used as part of the soundtrack a song from my alltime favorite group Echo and the Bunneymen. I guess I must also be weird.

somerfrost 07-23-2006 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by ArlJim78
Thanks Pointg5 and Irishtrekker. I saw your comments about Donnie Darko and later noticed it was coming on so I checked it out. I loved it and can't wait to see it again sometime. I knew it would be good right from the opening segment when they used as part of the soundtrack a song from my alltime favorite group Echo and the Bunneymen. I guess I must also be weird.

If you enjoyed Donnie Darko (I also am a fan), you might want to check out Southland Tales...written and directed by Richard Kelly (he of course the writer/director of Donnie Darko as well as Domino). Southland Tales is ambitious to say the least, should be out this fall or earlier, it has an extensive website with prequels etc. at:
http://www.southlandtales.com/
Even got a puzzle to put together on line as well as separate web sites for the main characters. I became interested because of the cast...much of Sat Nite Live plus the Rock and my girl...Sarah Michelle Gellar playing a porn star!!!

Pointg5 07-23-2006 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by ArlJim78
Thanks Pointg5 and Irishtrekker. I saw your comments about Donnie Darko and later noticed it was coming on so I checked it out. I loved it and can't wait to see it again sometime. I knew it would be good right from the opening segment when they used as part of the soundtrack a song from my alltime favorite group Echo and the Bunneymen. I guess I must also be weird.

I highly recommend Mothman Prophecies, I haven't seen it in a couple of years, may have to go buy it on DVD, I loved that movie, the Indrid Cold scene is just freaky...

ArlJim78 07-23-2006 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by somerfrost
If you enjoyed Donnie Darko (I also am a fan), you might want to check out Southland Tales...written and directed by Richard Kelly (he of course the writer/director of Donnie Darko as well as Domino). Southland Tales is ambitious to say the least, should be out this fall or earlier, it has an extensive website with prequels etc. at:
http://www.southlandtales.com/
Even got a puzzle to put together on line as well as separate web sites for the main characters. I became interested because of the cast...much of Sat Nite Live plus the Rock and my girl...Sarah Michelle Gellar playing a porn star!!!

He sure seems like one to keep an eye on, I was really impressed with what he did on DD. The Southland Tales site looked very intriguing. I wonder why the SNL cast would be involved?

ArlJim78 07-23-2006 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Pointg5
I highly recommend Mothman Prophecies, I haven't seen it in a couple of years, may have to go buy it on DVD, I loved that movie, the Indrid Cold scene is just freaky...

Thanks, I'm going to keep my eye out for when that one comes on. I don't do DVD's but I get every movie channel know to mankind. Sooner or later it'll show up.

somerfrost 07-23-2006 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by ArlJim78
He sure seems like one to keep an eye on, I was really impressed with what he did on DD. The Southland Tales site looked very intriguing. I wonder why the SNL cast would be involved?


I understand it is basically a comedy despite the look of it!

ArlJim78 07-23-2006 06:54 PM

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I understand it is basically a comedy despite the look of it!

Yeah I just noticed on IMDB that the genres it's listed under are Comedy/Musical/Sci-fi/Thriller.

Interesting blend!

somerfrost 07-23-2006 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by ArlJim78
Yeah I just noticed on IMDB that the genres it's listed under are Comedy/Musical/Sci-fi/Thriller.

Interesting blend!


Kelly is not Joss Whedon but he has some talent, and that is an excellent cast! I keep waiting for SMG to get the recognition she deserves, The Rock has come a long way from his WWE days and there are some very interesting other names there!

2 Dollar Bill 07-24-2006 07:55 AM

Two words..... "" Ford Fairlane""
The Dice Man.......... anyone who wakes up with Two Blondes, and the stereo blasting Hendrix's... . cant be all bad !!!

SCUDSBROTHER 07-24-2006 08:07 AM

1)The Fan

2)Kalifornia

Seattleallstar 07-24-2006 11:22 AM

I liked the Stakeout movies with Richard Dreyfuss and Emilio Estevez. Alot of people found the movies unfunny. But I loved them

Five Star Derek 07-25-2006 05:49 AM

Uncle Buck

I loved John Candy

ninetoone 07-25-2006 09:45 AM

Falling Down w/Michael Douglas & Robert Duvall. Seems like nobody saw it, and those that did don't really remember it. I thought it was a good one.

whorstman 07-25-2006 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Pointg5
Donnie Darko

Yeah, not a bad flick. Amanda Pete was hot!

whorstman 07-25-2006 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by ninetoone
Falling Down w/Michael Douglas & Robert Duvall. Seems like nobody saw it, and those that did don't really remember it. I thought it was a good one.

"You forgot the briefcase!!!!" I thought that was one of his best movies.

ArlJim78 07-25-2006 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by whorstman
Yeah, not a bad flick. Amanda Pete was hot!

Amanda Peet wasn't in Donnie Darko.

But she is hot imo.

Bigsmc 07-25-2006 01:51 PM

Raising Arizona gets the most out loud laughs out of me than any other movie. A lot of my friends hate it with a passion.

whorstman 07-25-2006 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by ArlJim78
Amanda Peet wasn't in Donnie Darko.

But she is hot imo.

Right, my bad, that was Igby Goes Down. Anyone seen that? Kind of an off beat one. Pretty good.

GenuineRisk 07-25-2006 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Bigsmc
Raising Arizona gets the most out loud laughs out of me than any other movie. A lot of my friends hate it with a passion.

Oh my God, there are people out there who hate "Raising Arizona"???? That's positively un-American. Why do they hate our freedom??????

Hee hee hee. I LOVE that movie. I love Nic Cage so much more in comedy than drama.

ninetoone 07-25-2006 03:13 PM

I thought "Minority Report" with Tom Cruise was incredible. My wife just laughs at me...

2MinsToPost 07-25-2006 08:35 PM

Scuds -

The Fan is great, love it

I love Swingers, and everyone I talk too says it is stupid.

GenuineRisk 07-25-2006 09:21 PM

Okay, here's a story about what we'll accept and what we'll say is stupid in a movie-- "Air Force One" and "Face/Off" came out the same summer and I remember thinking "Air Force One" was just idiotic because the whole plot hinged on a Secret Service guy turning coat and in reality, that's one of the reasons they always travel in pairs-- so one of them never has the opportunity to betray his charges. So the whole movie was based on something that could never happen.

Mind you, I was perfectly willing in "Face/Off" to accept Nicolas Cage and John Travolta switching faces and no one noticing anything, not even the WIFE of Travolta's character.

Maybe I just like John Woo films.

I hated "Air Force One." Actually, I hate almost everything Harrison Ford has done in the past fifteen years. Especially "Regarding Henry."

somerfrost 07-25-2006 11:33 PM

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Originally Posted by GenuineRisk
Okay, here's a story about what we'll accept and what we'll say is stupid in a movie-- "Air Force One" and "Face/Off" came out the same summer and I remember thinking "Air Force One" was just idiotic because the whole plot hinged on a Secret Service guy turning coat and in reality, that's one of the reasons they always travel in pairs-- so one of them never has the opportunity to betray his charges. So the whole movie was based on something that could never happen.

Mind you, I was perfectly willing in "Face/Off" to accept Nicolas Cage and John Travolta switching faces and no one noticing anything, not even the WIFE of Travolta's character.

Maybe I just like John Woo films.

I hated "Air Force One." Actually, I hate almost everything Harrison Ford has done in the past fifteen years. Especially "Regarding Henry."


I like Harrison Ford...but he's never come close to Blade Runner, then again...he's never had such a script!


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