Derby Trail Forums

Derby Trail Forums (http://www.derbytrail.com/forums/index.php)
-   Sports Bar & Grill (http://www.derbytrail.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=7)
-   -   Brutal (http://www.derbytrail.com/forums/showthread.php?t=22255)

Cannon Shell 05-06-2008 10:11 PM

Brutal
 
That was a tough game to watch.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/recap;_y...gid=2008050602

GBBob 05-06-2008 10:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

I think I hear Morty's coffin opening

The Bid 05-06-2008 10:15 PM

Mike Brown **** the bed again

Cannon Shell 05-06-2008 10:22 PM

Me and Ray Allen had the same point total, LeBron missed 100 layups, Mike Brown may be Sumitas, Ben Wallace cant even play defense very well, Rondo looks and talks like Chris Tucker, Wally should play about 8 minutes a game, I cant figure out why Joe Smith and Pavalovic dont play, Doc Rivers seems more concerned with tutoring Rondo than paying attention to the game, etc. At least Sam Cassell was able to be the closer, hit a couple of big shots and almost get in a fight.

declansharbor 05-06-2008 10:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Bid
Mike Brown **** the bed again

Yeah, who knew "King" James' diarrhea bug was communicable??

He had a chance to semi-redeem himself at the end of the game with an ever makeable lay-up and hershey squirted one more time...How many turnovers did he end up with??

Brutal would be an understatement when describing this game.

The Bid 05-06-2008 10:27 PM

Its just disgraceful to lose that game if you are a Cleveland fan.

Cannon Shell 05-06-2008 10:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by declansharbor
Yeah, who knew "King" James' diarrhea bug was communicable??

He had a chance to semi-redeem himself at the end of the game with an ever makeable lay-up and hershey squirted one more time...How many turnovers did he end up with??

Brutal would be an understatement when describing this game.

Obviously James played poorly but the celtics hardly distinguished themselves. Beating Cleveland by 4 at home when James makes 2 FG's is not a good sign for them.

Cannon Shell 05-06-2008 10:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Bid
Its just disgraceful to lose that game if you are a Cleveland fan.

You were lucky to be in the game. Celtics were bad too

The Bid 05-06-2008 10:30 PM

Absolutely right. If James plays just bad instead of stinking up the joint Cavs win by 5. If he plays good they win by doubles. The Cavs stink, and the coach is bad, but I think the Celtics are in trouble this series.

Cannon Shell 05-06-2008 10:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Bid
Absolutely right. If James plays just bad instead of stinking up the joint Cavs win by 5. If he plays good they win by doubles. The Cavs stink, and the coach is bad, but I think the Celtics are in trouble this series.

The Celtics suddenly look really slow. Cleveland has too many players in the rotation. A slowdown team doesnt need to play 10 guys. They still spend too much time standing around looking at each other.

declansharbor 05-06-2008 10:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
Obviously James played poorly but the celtics hardly distinguished themselves. Beating Cleveland by 4 at home when James makes 2 FG's is not a good sign for them.

I totally agree. They both are capable of playing better ball than they have been playing this post-season. James will have better games this series (is it possible to have worse??), and that's when we can get a real gauge of how this one is going to play out. Which ever team slinks their way out of this series has something else coming to them when they play Detroit. The team has been flat out firing on all cylinders ever since game 3 ended against the Sixers. When Rip and Prince are in rythym, they are ultra tough to play defense against and are a super tough team to transition on.

Pistons in 5 regardless of their opponent. JMO.

The Bid 05-06-2008 10:39 PM

Towards the end of the game the Cavs get 3-O boards in a row and never call an offensive set, they just wing it. They back the ball out, and just wing it. Not only that but they ultimately end up throwing up some playground shot. Just pathetic, Im going to bed. Probably have a nightmare about Mike Brown

pgardn 05-06-2008 10:57 PM

The tight games has Cassell in at the end.
Very telling.

King Glorious 05-07-2008 02:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Bid
Absolutely right. If James plays just bad instead of stinking up the joint Cavs win by 5. If he plays good they win by doubles. The Cavs stink, and the coach is bad, but I think the Celtics are in trouble this series.

You could easily say the same thing about Pierce and Allen. If they don't go a combined 2-18, the Celtics win easily. Pierce said he knew that if he and Allen could equalize James, the Celtics would be in good shape. Who knew it would happen like that though?

horseofcourse 05-07-2008 09:01 AM

What often times goes unsaid is the two teams actually played pretty good defense at times. It is the playoffs. As a Cleveland fan it's meaningless to me. This year's Cav's team is less predictable than the 2 months from now weather forecast. It would not shock me if they got swept...it would not shock me if they won the next 4. They are a terrible shooting team. In games they shoot 50 percent they usually blow the team out.

Just think...LeBron was a mere 1 assist and 1 rebound short of the rarely if ever seen unique QUAD double...(points, rebounds, assists, turnovers).

(to be fair Cannon, Pavlovic aprained his ankle AGAIN the 2nd to last game of the season and wasn't even considered playable til game 5 of the Wash series)

I'll keep an open mind in this series. Remember, LeBron was eviscerated after game 2 of the Detroit series last year after two brutally close losses. He seemed to rebound from that ok. KG is right...what is also being ignored is Pierce and Allen also going 2 for 18 combined just as LeBron is also not going to happen again.

Mortimer 05-07-2008 09:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GBBob
I think I hear Morty's coffin opening

I guess this is your lucky day.





Listen....Boston won--that's the primary function in these things..to win.

But it's a game that was too close at home for the 66 win team.

Cleveland was 0-2 to Detroit last year.

The best part of Mike Brown's game is the set of "faces that make me look like I know what I'm doing--but I don't" he selects for each game. His philosophy is great...if Lee plays bad...we don't win.


Grade jub ,coach!!


duh...we're down 2 ...led's led the guy who is 2-16 teg dis shud.



















wud happund?









oh...duh.....now we still gud a chance....bud we need a four----I mean 3.....who shud teg dis shud? I thing the guy who is 2-17.





















wud happund!!?






This is what happens when ownership hires a parrot to transfer their wishes to the court....James Good...everyone else bad.





This is how Brown coaches----this is how ownership wants it because this makes James happy.





Ah wonder why players don't scream at him openly on the court when he has a horrible,DUMB game like this?




And why DOES he do that very same thing to them?


The Cavaliers will go as far as Z and 2 or 3 others are allowed to help the FROZEN ONE.

Mortimer 05-07-2008 09:51 AM

Yer damn fucl<in'-aye straight I'm right.

Mortimer 05-07-2008 09:55 AM

You do that again----and I will tell you something about the 5 Steves that you don't wanna hear.









You got that...Hossy?

Coach Pants 05-07-2008 09:57 AM

Brick.

Mortimer 05-07-2008 09:58 AM

All right buddy...you just made me spit my donut out in anger.




You wait a minute,Mister.....I'm not holding back this time.

Mortimer 05-07-2008 09:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coach Pants
Brick.

BONK!

horseofcourse 05-07-2008 10:06 AM

LeBron lost the game...but to be fair Z took 18 shots...same number as LeBron. Wally took 14. Down 68-65...the ball was passed from LeBron to the open Gibson for a 3 that tied the game. Tied 68-68, LeBron passed to an open Z who made the shot to put them up 70-68. Down 72-70 LeBron drove for a layup with 3 guys converging on him...(of course he missed but it opened up the lane for an offensive rebound to tie it again.) It is certainly not true that in key parts of the game LeBron is taking every single shot (he took 3 shots in the 4th quarter game 4 in Washington.) Now down 74-72 with 20 seconds left I think if you can get James to penetrate that is the play to run. He did get to the lane for a layup...a difficult one but certainly one he can make. I prefer what happened there than James dribbling for 18 seconds and taking a fade away 3 pointer at the buzzer. The penetration potentially opens up the offensive rebound but it didn't happen that time.

As miserable as he was, things were still happening. They played hard.

Mortimer 05-07-2008 10:14 AM

I suppose farm animal noises are next.





The 5 Stevies......oh yes. The wunderkind of handicapping....the Stevie 5 Angels of the racing world. Oh they are so smart---oh we listen to everything they say.


Well here's what they said,,,,essentially.











PHOOEY!!




PHOOEYPHOOEYPHOOEY!!!



This is the worst KD field I have ever seen in my life....it's HORRIBLE.I can't even pick a winner. The ONLY horse here with talent is BB...and it could be immense talent,but I can't bet a 5:2 with a weaker foundation than a Polish drill rig in the Atlantic who is running out of the TWENTY hole!!



No friggin' way....lotsa luck to those of you who think you can pick a winner in this pathetic mess.





That's what they said.......essentially if not verbatim.






Now....did any one of us ignorant,brainless dumb fucl<s spend one ounce of private positive thinking time on this?






NO!!






No one said......Uh---Steve. I hear what you're saying....but isn't what you are really saying---the essence,if you will........that this is EXACTLY the right time to bet a horse with the only real talent in this race comprised of SLOTH???



Doesn't this make sense?

Can't we trade off 3 races and the 20 hole for this COMPLETELY TALENTLESS GROUP OF ANT HILL DESTROYERS?????























Did anyone say that?







































No.












Why?







































Because we love our STEVIES!!...OH BOY!






Our STEVIES are sooo smart and ALWAYS right.....oh they know what they are doing ,boy.






'Cause it's STEVIE this....and STEVIE that......and PLEASE GUIDE US BLIND FOOLS STEVIE!!



























OH WE LOVE OUR FUCl<IN' STEVIES!!!!!





:mad:

Mortimer 05-07-2008 10:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by horseofcourse
LeBron lost the game...but to be fair Z took 18 shots...same number as LeBron. Wally took 14. Down 68-65...the ball was passed from LeBron to the open Gibson for a 3 that tied the game. Tied 68-68, LeBron passed to an open Z who made the shot to put them up 70-68. Down 72-70 LeBron drove for a layup with 3 guys converging on him...(of course he missed but it opened up the lane for an offensive rebound to tie it again.) It is certainly not true that in key parts of the game LeBron is taking every single shot (he took 3 shots in the 4th quarter game 4 in Washington.) Now down 74-72 with 20 seconds left I think if you can get James to penetrate that is the play to run. He did get to the lane for a layup...a difficult one but certainly one he can make. I prefer what happened there than James dribbling for 18 seconds and taking a fade away 3 pointer at the buzzer. The penetration potentially opens up the offensive rebound but it didn't happen that time.

As miserable as he was, things were still happening. They played hard.






Did Z have 10 fucl<in' turnovers????

Mortimer 05-07-2008 10:22 AM

On a positive note...Fransisco here...Michaels....NOT.




:)

Mortimer 05-07-2008 10:25 AM

And CM Oreo is trying to make it the 6 Stevies.




God help us if that ever happens.

horseofcourse 05-07-2008 10:30 AM

Who are stevies??

No Z didn't have 10 turnovers. I said LeBron lost the game in my first sentence. I can see that. My posts are purity which make clearly obvoius un-refutable points which are gold which is why you can only respond as you do.

The signs of not terrible play are there team wise. The assist to basket made ratio was way, way above seasonal norms the Washington series and yesterday it was 19 assists on 23 made baskets. All members of the team play a part in that including the terrible one. AFter blowing the game winning shot in game 5 against Wash, how did the frozen one play in game 6 on the road?? Of course no Avery comments on that game at all. 27, 13, 13, 1 turnover or something like that???

LeBron stunk and if he continues to play like that they will get swept. I dont' think he will continue to play like that. I could be wrong as I usually am, but the facts are when opportunities by the very good Boston D presented itself he found open guys in late 4th quarter game situations. I can't criticize his penetrating shot he took when down 2 with 8 second left either.

All was not lost last night however as J-honey went deep ( too bad he cant' face Pettite 162 games a year and was critical in the game winning rally against joba the hut.)!!!!

Mortimer 05-07-2008 10:32 AM

MainCourse...I don't respond in detail to you because you always have a boat load of contradictions...and it hurts my eyes.

horseofcourse 05-07-2008 10:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Avery_Smartman
MainCourse...I don't respond in detail to you because you always have a boat load of contradictions...and it hurts my eyes.

There are not contradictions anywhere. A guy can play a wretched overall game and still do a few good things at various selected points which is all I pointed out. THat is not a contradiction to say he made very good dishes to Gibson and Z on shots that tied the game and put them ahead late in the 4th quarter.

You oftentimes mistake pure facts as contradictions which is what makes your eyes hurt.

Mortimer 05-07-2008 10:36 AM

By the way.....James' azz should have been set down in that last 20 seconds or so ....make it ,essentially, a one on one game and let Mike Wilkens draw up a PLAY......for a change.

horseofcourse 05-07-2008 10:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Avery_Smartman
By the way.....James' azz should have been set down in that last 20 seconds or so ....make it ,essentially, a one on one game and let Mike Wilkens draw up a PLAY......for a change.

Cliff Lee's ERA was 27 in his last inning pitched. His next start should be skipped in the rotation. You are classic!!!

Mortimer 05-07-2008 11:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by horseofcourse
Cliff Lee's ERA was 27 in his last inning pitched. His next start should be skipped in the rotation. You are classic!!!


James was 2-16 during the game...and is one of the more inept 3 point shooters on the team.




You contradictions are legion.....so much that it blurs with reality....almost becoming in phase with it.

Mortimer 05-07-2008 11:44 AM

Hey Brown...you're sitting down 2-16 and 10 turnovers!!!?


Are you crazy!?

Mortimer 05-07-2008 11:46 AM

I would like to say this derby should become legend for the heart and talent displayed by EightBelles....ufortunately it will not.

Mortimer 05-07-2008 11:48 AM

Steve...can you ban MainCourse from the stupid threads?






Please?

Mortimer 05-07-2008 11:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
You were lucky to be in the game. Celtics were bad too


You're not getting away with that one...the inverse is also just as true.

Mortimer 05-07-2008 12:00 PM

Oh...MC EasyOut.



The 5 Stevies:


Byk,HasBeens,Tryst,Bayer and Sterling.


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 07:18 AM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.