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blackthroatedwind 05-05-2008 07:30 PM

Frustration?
 
So the Derby is over, and the best horse won, and the second best horse suffered a terrible tragedy. The winner is a very nice horse that has accomplished a great deal in a very short period of time while overcoming physical issues. He's also trained by someone who is understandably a lightning rod for attention....both positive and negative. He is also owned by a group in a similar boat. While I have certainly never been a great fan of some of what Dutrow has been involved with, I do think it's important to note that Big Brown ran a tremendous race in his debut, and he was not trained by Mr. Dutrow at that time. He is quite simply a very talented animal and dramatically superior to those that lined up against him Saturday. Many of us bet against him Saturday, myself included, knowing full well he was very possibly superior to his rivals, but we also felt given the post and his lack of experience, his undoing was more than possible. We were wrong.....he won with alarming ease. Personally, I always find a certain satisfaction in any race won by the best horse, and never moreso than in the Kentucky Derby.

But, people are angry. Trust me, I'm an angry guy, I understand. We're upset about what happened to Eight Belles and we're upset that this unfortunate incident is now being used by ignorant zealots with an agenda against this game that we love. And, even though we know they are wrong about most of what they speak, we sadly know there is at least a hint of truth in some of what they say ( truth, in all likelihood, that they don't even understand ). We're also frustrated that nobody in power in the industry has come out rationally, or almost nobody, to attempt to quell the hysteria by those outside the industry. I, too, am frustrated by this, but I also believe we should let them burn themselves out in a few days, and know that the game will go on regardless of their opportunistic ramblings. Just as I believe that a TC winner cannot " save racing ", I also believe that a tragedy in the TC series can't destroy it.

We're also frustrated that this Derby weekend was marred by infighting within the industry that dramatically affected the disemination of the Churchill Downs signal for betting purposes. We can't understand why the industry seems to continue to act in a way that is contrary to our interests, that is the racing fans who support the game, and even though many of us do understand and sympathize with the parties involved, it's hard not to be frustrated that all too often we seem to be the ones left out in the cold. It's easy to ask why can't the industry that we financially support, ever seem to listen to us. Even if we know that in some ways that's a massive oversimplification it's not unfair for us to be at least frustrated by the end result.

But I'm not frustrated. I'm happy that Belmont is open, and there's still eleven weeks left at that beautiful racetrack, and then there's six weeks at glorious Saratoga, followed by seven more at Belmont in the Fall. I'm happy that there's a great chance that in less than five weeks there will be a huge crowd at Belmont hoping for a TC and for a few weeks in NY people will actually care about horse racing. I'm happy that I'll be frustrated on a daily basis betting on the game I love. I'm happy that horse racing exists to give me something to bitch about. I'm happy that there will be many Pick-6s coming up for me to take tough beats betting. I'm happy that my life isn't as boring as those that haven't figured out how great this game is on a daily basis.

Kasept 05-05-2008 07:34 PM

Brilliant piece Andrew. Perfectly put. Thx for elucidating a lot of what people are thinking/feeling.

hockey2315 05-05-2008 07:34 PM

Great post, Andy. . .

Coach Pants 05-05-2008 07:36 PM

I'm happy I read your post.

my miss storm cat 05-05-2008 07:37 PM

I have nothing to add but gotta say how much I enjoyed reading this.

I wish this were on the back pages of newspapers across the country.

Then maybe some would get it, or parts of it... start to have an understanding.

Anyway, well done.

3kings 05-05-2008 07:39 PM

Great post Andy. It doesn't change any of the issues in the game, but reminds me why I follow and enjoy it. Thank you.

Cajungator26 05-05-2008 07:41 PM

Damn, great post Andy ...

hoovesupsideyourhead 05-05-2008 07:43 PM

after driving home for 10 hrs i had a similar thought...i dont care for dutrow..but im a fan of big brown and yes tried to beat him..he beat me easy..all the wile i and many knew hes just the best.. ill root for him the rest of the way....at keeneland they cut away from the breakdown of eight bells..saving many of us from an brutal sight after a outstanding run by the winner and the filly.......... im pissed at larry jones who could have easly run 1/2 in the oaks and abit at the track supers..but in the end thats racing..never perfect..and yes belmont/toga/keenlend belmont..........

MaTH716 05-05-2008 07:47 PM

Wonderful post Andy, I enjoyed it very much.

Payson Dave 05-05-2008 07:49 PM

Well said sir....

ARyan 05-05-2008 07:52 PM

Great post...

booner 05-05-2008 07:53 PM

Great post.

ninetoone 05-05-2008 08:02 PM

Excellent.

hurricanefrank 05-05-2008 08:02 PM

outstanding piece Andy. Would love to see this make the papers across the land to counter all the negative fallout.

mes5107 05-05-2008 08:09 PM

Excellent post and a great read. I can't find anything I disagree with.

ateamstupid 05-05-2008 08:09 PM

Ditto what everyone else said.

DCracing 05-05-2008 08:09 PM

NY racing is the best
 
i can't wait to get to belmont park! and to bring my daughters to saratoga in august. thx

pmacdaddy 05-05-2008 08:14 PM

Well said.

CSC 05-05-2008 08:17 PM

Well said!

prudery 05-05-2008 08:22 PM

Perfectly stated and heartfelt ...I have exhausted my pretentious ass cruising the internet to try to correct and bring rationality to this hearbreaking situation ... Nothing will bring the filly back, and perhaps there is no explanation but that it was an accident ...
It infuriates me that those who see a race or two a year are ready with explanations, damnations and other ations ...
And yes, there is some truth even in the ranting of the PETA people and other hysterics ...
Nobody wants to see this happen ... And nobody doesn't want speed without safety ...

otisotisotis 05-05-2008 08:27 PM

Huzzah!

fpsoxfan 05-05-2008 08:30 PM

Very well put Andy. A great read.

philcski 05-05-2008 08:30 PM

Outstanding piece, Andy... couldn't have voiced what I was thinking it better. Would love to see it in an op/ed in the Times, which has printed some things this week which were not in their best character.

Thanks again for a truly heartfelt read.

Hickory Hill Hoff 05-05-2008 08:37 PM

Very well put Andy...this IS the greatest sport :)

_ed_ 05-05-2008 08:40 PM

As everyone has said, great post. Agree with every word. :)

horseofcourse 05-05-2008 08:41 PM

Excellent piece...should be a letter to the editor in papers across the country.

pgiaco 05-05-2008 08:48 PM

Outstanding, this belongs in the paper or on the news instead of the peta drivel being dished out.

Suffolk Shippers 05-05-2008 08:55 PM

Thanks Andy, very well said.

My girlfriend asked me tonight what I thought about all this national media noise about Eight Belles and how cruel racing is and blah blah. Purposely, I have been trying to avoid it because I know it's just another uninformed, lazy, headline grabbing story after another, from people who don't know the game or the animals.

Hell, I don't claim to know the game that well. I love the animals and I like my gambling now and then. That's why I am here. To me, I'd like to see one of these reporters/columinsts out there on a sweltering August Wednesday in Minnesota at Cantebury or a cold November Monday at Suffolk Downs in $5,000 NWX2 claiming event. I'd like to see them when some 6 yr old gelding breaks down in a race like that at a track like those. Not to diminsh Eight Belles' life or her career, but she is no different than that 6 yr old gelding. If they were there to report the demise of that gelding, than hey, maybe they had some business sensationalizing Eight Belles passing.

But of course, that will never be the case. Don't get me started on the whole advance wager bullsh**t. :rolleyes:

tap 05-05-2008 09:05 PM

This is the best piece I have read anywhere. In four paragraphs you have captured our feelings and put a mirror to our souls. Outstanding!!

Coach Pants 05-05-2008 09:08 PM

a mirror to our souls...



:rolleyes:

Payson Dave 05-05-2008 09:10 PM

not as good as vocal nuts

sumitas 05-05-2008 09:14 PM

This race brought many suspicions harbored by many to the fore. Questions that will remain on the minds of many for some time.

ArlJim78 05-05-2008 09:18 PM

i hate to be one to pile on, and be redundant, but that was fantastic. you should be a regular columnist somewhere in the industry. every point was spot on and very concisely summed up a frustrating weekend. great job.

Payson Dave 05-05-2008 09:21 PM

Maybe I'm very naive but I'm having a hard time buying that undetectable drugs played a role in this years derby...or for that matter the races in Dubai

Danzig 05-05-2008 09:24 PM

why? because the trainers aren't stupid??

they may have been on the up and up. fact is, many will wonder and doubt, because of the trainers of record.

Norfolk 05-05-2008 09:24 PM

Andy

Thank you for putting it into words. I have for days been trying to write my thoughts on the last few days and you said it a lot better than I could ever hope to.
Thanks
Joe

Payson Dave 05-05-2008 09:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danzig
why? because the trainers aren't stupid??
they may have been on the up and up. fact is, many will wonder and doubt, because of the trainers of record.

no.....because drug testing technology has become quite advanced

tiggerv 05-05-2008 09:28 PM

The best day of the year in this sport shouldn't make me this nauseous. I agree with everything Andy said but I wish I shared his optimism.

Danzig 05-05-2008 09:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Payson Dave
no.....because drug testing technology has become quite advanced

tracks have to know what to test for.
biancone never had a positive for cobra venom. there's no test for it. he only got busted because they found a vial in his fridge.

and the 'not stupid' line comes from assmussens famous defense for his six month suspension for an overage. what, do you think i'm stupid?

cowgirlintexas 05-05-2008 09:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tiggerv
The best day of the year in this sport shouldn't make me this nauseous. I agree with everything Andy said but I wish I shared his optimism.

Agree 100%..I went from jumpimg up and down in joy to wanting to throw up in 20 seconds... Felt the same when Barbaro broke his leg. Was hoping not to have that feeling again so soon. Thank You Andy for the words that none of us could say in quite that way. I, as most of us on here hope to see it published for all the public to see. You have risen from the bottom page in my book, to the front cover.


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