Opinions High Finance
This horse is nearly always in the mix, even tho mostly maidens. He is comming of of an impressive win after the maiden score.I generaly dont like top horses that take more than 3 or 4 races to break maiden. The last looks like a nice one. Should we think this horse move forward or regress in the Belmont. I know if a win is anticipated he will need a signifant move forward but does his Sheet numbers sugest a regression or a competetive race?
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Let's see..Broke maiden in 4th at 7f and then wires a n1x...now he's asked in a G1, although not exactly proven G1 competition...He should be one of the early leaders and has held well when pressed early. The maiden loss to Bernandini looks a whole lot better now, though he was crushed that day. I think it's definately a stretch, though I guess I could see him playing a part if he got a really slow pace, ala Commendable.
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No thanks. Never beyond 8f and he should get the front...but will have Bluegrass Cat, Bob and John, and Deputy Glitters breathing down his neck the whole way. If he can hold those three off the whole way kudos to him, but he's going to have to beat me
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Horse loves Belmont and his numbers are just as good as Sunrivers. Peaking at the right time. Bob and John snd Sunriver are the only two I think that could beat him. He will be the best value in the race so HF is likely my play.
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He is the pace setter and nothing more...should get well clear early, but Bluegrass Cat, Bob and John and Deputy Glitters will be in the second flight stalking him and those three classier colts will overhaul him when they want to...probably approaching the far turn....your winner is likely to come from whoever proves best of that group of three...
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Bob and John should get the lead and hold it most of the way.
High Finance could steal the race late. I believe he has a legitimate shot at the win and I will have him in my Super box with Hemingway's Key..Sacred Light..Bluegrass Cat. At least for now,it's still early. |
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I don't think that they are taking an unreasonable shot here. Its tuly a wide open race and the Derby also rans who are running didn't earn very good sheet numbers that day. I guess I'm not seeing in Bluegrass Cat, Stepp, and Bob and John, and Deputy Glitters what the rest of you are seeing. I only see horses. Sunrivers last was very unimpressive, very slow race and life and death to beat a horse who isnt a whole lot. I see no reason why an allowance horse couldnt get lucky with a good trip or good ride, especially one who is already stabled at Belmont and will be running on his home track. Belmont is a quirky track to race on, so having a win over it already is a big edge. |
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I guess I'm not seeing in Bluegrass Cat, Stepp, Bob and John, and Deputy Glitters what the rest of you are seeing. I only see horses. Sunrivers last was very unimpressive, very slow race and life and death to beat a horse who isnt a whole lot.
I see no reason why an allowance horse couldnt get lucky with a good trip or good ride, especially one who is already stabled at Belmont and will be running on his home track. Belmont is a quirky track to race on, so having a win over it already is a big edge. your post makes little sense, first you knock the two that have won on the track, then you say having a win on it is a big edge, ???? bipolar vision ?? |
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Did you have a piece of that freight train who won by 15 lengths up here last summer. I'm telling you, he would have been a NY bred champion, maybe an open graded stakes winner. His death was very very sad. His only race was incredible. |
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Bob and John has never run at Belmont - won the Wood at Aqueduct
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Highlight this buddy boy. Next time you wanan take the time to copy and paste a piece, complete with highlighting, remember that the time you spend would be much better invested figuring out what the hell you are talking about. Its tiresome. |
With this field not being close to an all star field why not take a shot with a horse that obviously likes the track and has run similar figures to others in the race. I think he has just as much of a shot as Glitters, Blue Grass or anyone else. Probably will be included on my tickets.
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I think hes a nice horse and a sharp horse. |
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a more appropriate response from you, or anyone with even a hint if intellect and class would have been. I think you might be mistaken, LOL, Bobandjohn has never run at belmont. truely people with understanding of life do not throw out insults without a conscious feeling of disonance, you seem to lack any understanding at all of how to interact with others. i made a simple mistake , it could have easily been corrected with a laugh, you however don't seem capable of interacting socially with people in a consistent manner. |
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Block, you answer someone in a manner and disposition that is a result of how they spoke to you. A more appropiate response to my original post from you would have been: Oracle why don't you like Bob and john if he has already won over the track? You didn't say that. What you said was that I had bipolar vision. I am quiet capable of proper and cheerful social interaction with somone as long as they provide me the same courtesy. Best wishes |
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Actually most people over the last two months thought Sunriver was the better of the two Pletcher colts. He has a win over the track and he needed his last race after his layoff. I still like High Finance. |
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So in otherwords, you aren't holding Sunriver's ding-ding in this race? :D IMO-SR is going to bounce which is why I am not going to play him. B&J reminds me of Birdstone. He just keeps running and running. Whether he is fast enough, we shall see. If SR doesn't bounce, I will be the first to say "WHOOPSIE!" |
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...the bottomline is that if Pletcher really wanted him in he should have had Keyed Entry come down with a "Cold", "fever" or "foot bruise" the day of entries and put in Sunriver in stead...I believe he could've been sitting on a decent race in the Derby, but he would not have finished better than Bluegrass Cat IMO...Bluegrass Cat has been the BEST Pletcher 3-year-old going long from day one...don't confuse that. Good luck with High Finance..his price will certainly be good...I just think you'll get a thrill for a little over a half-mile before he is enhaled by Bob and John/Bluegrass Cat/Deputy Glitters...we'll see! |
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I just loved Western Revenges chances in the 1st at belmont, he won. But if he comes back next time against a field I don't think he can beat, I won't like him. Thats just how I am, I try and analyze things objectively. |
[quote=oracle80]Buffy people who analyze races and horses objectively don't have horses that they just bet everytime. Last time out I thought he was a cinch. He won, but not in the manner I would have liked. Therefore, I'm not sure if I will use him in the top slot in the Belmont or not. I don't hold horses "ding dings".
Just ribbing you a little. No harshness meant. I agree with you about him. I like the horse, but I think he is going to bounce. |
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Granted it is an old program but it is still fairly accurate. However if what you say is true and High Finance attempts to take the lead from B&J then they are both toast. Out with H F and in with Steppenwolfer. |
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They didn't enter High Finance to have a horse in the Belmont. They think he can win and there really isn't anything impressive in there. If the track favors speed that day he could go wire to wire.
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where do you people get the idea that Bobandjohn will set the pace in this race, he has a closing turn of foot, he has NEVER been on the lead until the third call ever.
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