gayego
 

i know its early but i will be without access to internet shortly .. so here goes
gayego very consistent has done little wrong big straping colt appears able to run all day my pick to wear the roses

I going to take my Coaltown Cat money from last year and put it all on this guy.

that was witty

i am with you here, he is definitely on top of my list.

Are you serious??

Not sure how you figure that, it looked to me that he was stretching his distance limits in the ark derby.

done little wrong - yes
consistent - yes
chances of wearing the roses - not good imo. chasing Big Brown I think will be his undoing.

I like this horse but think that a minor placing would be his ceiling as they say. with a dream trip he might be this years Sedgefield.

Unless Big Brown and Pyro dont fire. I hope he wins it . I put a few bucks on him at 57/1

Then again, Sedgefield is a full brother to the '07 champion turf horse, who did his best work going a mile and a quarter or farther. Unfortunately, Gayego doesn't have that stamina blood- not that he couldn't find a way to go a mile and a quarter, I just don't see it.

look at the ones getting the most attention-none seem to scream 10f when you look at the pedigree. does anyone really think big brown is a 10f horse?

i'll put up gayego before most of the others.

not the worst play having a few bucks on him at long odds, because I think he will be around for at least 8 furlongs.

nor can i really, Gilded Time? I just like game horses like this one who show a propensity to be a factor every time they run.

Actually he's a turfer, but yes... Nureyev on the bottom gives some pretty stout distance ability. And watching his races, he finishes STRONG.

Oh, from a horse perspective, I really like him. He just brings it, every time, any surface, anywhere. Just don't think this is his ballgame, and will probably be my toughest toss.
Horses like Pyro who got drowned as soon as he was "uncomfortable on the surface" don't do it for me.

Always liked him,but I think he would have to really like the track(improve some.) He's gunna win the beauty contest though.

wait, so big brown gets stamina from nuryev, but gayego doesn't from lost code? how do you figure that?
and i'm thinking big brown will suffer as he's by boundary, a sire of sprinters.

That's for sure.. A good-looking colt if I've ever seen one.

Lost Code's top earners have all been sprinter/miler types (Kalookan Queen, etc.)... despite the fact that he was best at a mile and an eighth.

I fear Gayego because I think he's good and I'm not using him because I do think he stops after 9f.

i like him too. the arkansas deby has been key recently. but i like the horse that was second better. z fortune should get a nice stalking trip. i think hes assmussens secret weapon. the crop is not that good and this race has been turning out the good ones . both of his entries could run big

z fortune might manage yet another board finish...but a win? i'll be shocked.

agreed - maybe it's my ignorance, but I just don't think hardly any horse is bred for stamina anymore, it's all about speed, speed, speed, and more speed.
which can lead to muddled classic contests.
i don't think gayego is a 'need to burn it up on the lead' type, but rather a horse with a high cruising gear. if he can stay the distance he's an easy place.

welll, it's hard to tell any more who has what. not many 10f races any more, so they are slim pickings in a horses resume'. but i'd think gayego would stack up to big brown pedigree-wise. really, at this point, pedigree doesn't mean much-everyone is pushing for sprinter/milers-you just need to have a horse who can outgasp the others for that last furlong or so.
the bigger question will become who can run on what surface on any given race day.

Nureyev AWD - 8.44 furlongs
Lost Code AWD - 6.32 furlongs

Lost Code has BY FAR the lowest AWD of any damsire in the race.. Where do you get that he's some kinda great stamina influence?

Tiznow over Turkoman is 10f breeding. (That's Colonel John, by the way.)

Gayego is so much a better horse then Sedgfield ever was....cmon this horse can run, maybe not 10 furlongs, but Sedgefield?

but we're talking about a 10 furlong race aren't we?
wasn't meaning to compare the horses per se, just that I think Gayego would need that kind of trip to be a factor.

Isn't that kinda the most important part?

i guess i was going by his races won/placed.

my whole point is that it really doesn't matter anyway. so many winners for years now are horses who supposedly can't get the distance.

based on what? dosage?

If you take a look at Gayego he looks more like Lost Code that comes from the bottom. He will get the 1 1/4 I just hope it in front of the others.

You're right and we should be looking for the plodder that runs those 12 second splits in this race. Who is he?

That's the pedigree that caught my eye. Turkoman was the damsire of Point Given, and Tiznow won the classic at this track.

Court Vision. My group is trying to pool some trifecta/superfecta money and we're having a lot of arguments on this one. I think he can get a piece, but don't think he's fast enough to win unless the whole thing falls apart and the other closers have big trouble or don't fire.

maybe, but whenever you throw a dog **** horse in a comparison its very difficult for anyone to see beyond a straight talent comparison. Gayego is a top class horse who could get 10 furlongs, and I suppose at 18/1 (thats what he is at on Pinnacle) and big brown is 5/2 its an easy handicapping decision. He can win this race but depending on his odds is how I would rate him (I know I know, its wishy washy but I relate everything to their price).

Court Vision though in his last couple of races has not made a middle move, thats concerning. Even a plodder like Giacomo made middle moves in his prep races showing a hint of talent.

Also the damsire of Hard Spun.

i could use gayego or z fortune the arkansas derby has been very influential. both these horses offer a square price derby day

BBJ has 6 reine de course on his bottom line. That leads me to believe he'll get the distance. He's from the family of Nearctic.

Voodoo.

me too, its hard to take 5-2 in this race and believe me i've jumped on the bandwagon and taken my lumps . with this many horses anything can happen, why bet the chalk ?