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SilverRP 04-21-2008 08:19 PM

Smooth Air
 
Contender/Pretender?? All the talking heads say he can't get the mile 1/4. Am I the only one who thinks he's got a pretty good shot in the derby, especially if the pace is hot?

The Indomitable DrugS 04-21-2008 08:24 PM

Pretender.

my miss storm cat 04-21-2008 08:27 PM

Winner. :cool:

Danzig 04-21-2008 08:28 PM

i laughed mmsc. sorry.

Hickory Hill Hoff 04-21-2008 08:30 PM

If Smooth Air is a pretender.....so is Big Brown. He chased that "monster" all around the Gulfstream course.

ddthetide 04-21-2008 08:30 PM

he Might be this derby's afleet alex.

Danzig 04-21-2008 08:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hickory Hill Hoff
If Smooth Air is a pretender.....so is Big Brown. He chased that "monster" all around the Gulfstream course.

suits me.

XIIPointStables 04-21-2008 08:35 PM

Steve Davidowitz says contender - mentions including him in his Derby Super and other exotic plays.

The Indomitable DrugS 04-21-2008 08:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hickory Hill Hoff
If Smooth Air is a pretender.....so is Big Brown. He chased that "monster" all around the Gulfstream course.

He had a very good trip and didn't have to send hard from the 12 hole and still got totally smoked.

Someone had to run 2nd.

Hickory Hill Hoff 04-21-2008 08:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ddthetide
he Might be this derby's afleet alex.

That could be Court Vision.

ShadowRoll 04-21-2008 08:37 PM

At this point, seems to be a definite include in the exotics based on his fitness level alone (and I might key him in the three bottom spots for the super), but I have doubts about whether he can win. I might upgrade him if there's good work reports from the Downs.

ddthetide 04-21-2008 08:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hickory Hill Hoff
That could be Court Vision.

court vision doesn't impress me. IF Eight Belles runs i'll take my chances with her, Smooth Air and Pyro.

Hickory Hill Hoff 04-21-2008 08:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS
He had a very good trip and didn't have to send hard from the 12 hole and still got totally smoked.

Someone had to run 2nd.

No one was beating Big Brown that day.....but the Kenucky Derby, that's another story. If he puts in another effort like that, my hat's off to him...but at 4-1 or less with only three lifetime starts.....I'll let him beat me.

Danzig 04-21-2008 08:43 PM

he won't.

Hickory Hill Hoff 04-21-2008 08:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ddthetide
court vision doesn't impress me. IF Eight Belles runs i'll take my chances with her, Smooth Air and Pyro.

Not even with the latest work out? :D

Hickory Hill Hoff 04-21-2008 08:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danzig
he won't.

Agreed, like I said Arazi

Danzig 04-21-2008 08:45 PM

when you start getting money on workout bets, lemme know.

Danzig 04-21-2008 08:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hickory Hill Hoff
Agreed, like I said Arazi

scary, someone thinking like me. or me thinking like you...whichever.:D

justindew 04-21-2008 08:49 PM

I have a $100 future wager from Pool 1 that will pay me $16,030. If anyone wants to buy it from me, let me know. I am willing to sell.

Cannon Shell 04-21-2008 08:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by justindew
I have a $100 future wager from Pool 1 that will pay me $16,030. If anyone wants to buy it from me, let me know. I am willing to sell.

I'll give you your $100 back

hockey2315 04-21-2008 09:01 PM

Not really worth selling in my opinion.

Scav 04-21-2008 09:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by justindew
I have a $100 future wager from Pool 1 that will pay me $16,030. If anyone wants to buy it from me, let me know. I am willing to sell.

Put it on Ebay to see how much it would get, put a large top on it, like 8k or something, I bet you could get 1k for it

SniperSB23 04-21-2008 09:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scav
Put it on Ebay to see how much it would get, put a large top on it, like 8k or something, I bet you could get 1k for it

Maybe if the auction closed after they ran the Derby.

The Indomitable DrugS 04-21-2008 09:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by justindew
I have a $100 future wager from Pool 1 that will pay me $16,030. If anyone wants to buy it from me, let me know. I am willing to sell.

They have exchange markets - where he will probably trade at around 35/1 or 40/1 on Derby day.

You could bet $100 against him which will result in about a $4K liability.

That way, if you aren't crazy about his chances anymore, you could recoup your initial investment and still make a 12K profit if he somehow wins.

Scav 04-21-2008 09:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SniperSB23
Maybe if the auction closed after they ran the Derby.

It would be more of the curious side of me seeing what people would pay for something like that.

ArlJim78 04-21-2008 09:17 PM

one of the contenders.

eajinabi 04-21-2008 10:18 PM

Believe you me, this horse is a contender. This horse ran very well in the FL Derby and is probably sitting on a huge performance. Is it good enough to win? Who Knows? One thing is for sure to me is that he is going to run very well in the Derby.

philcski 04-21-2008 10:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scav
It would be more of the curious side of me seeing what people would pay for something like that.

I'd pay $300 for it

hi_im_god 04-21-2008 11:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS
They have exchange markets - where he will probably trade at around 35/1 or 40/1 on Derby day.

You could bet $100 against him which will result in about a $4K liability.

That way, if you aren't crazy about his chances anymore, you could recoup your initial investment and still make a 12K profit if he somehow wins.

i know the exchange markets are available in europe. how does an american participate in this?

do i need a canadian address?

RolloTomasi 04-22-2008 12:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ddthetide
he Might be this derby's afleet alex.

What does this mean exactly? Didn't Afleet Alex lose the Kentucky Derby as the favorite?

The Indomitable DrugS 04-22-2008 12:23 AM

I think Bellamy Road was the favorite that year...

However, Smooth Air is as much Afleet Alex as Freddy Mitchell was Randy Moss.

RolloTomasi 04-22-2008 12:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS
I think Bellamy Road was the favorite that year...

However, Smooth Air is as much Afleet Alex as Freddy Mitchell was Randy Moss.

Smooth Air is reminiscent of about a billion other local Florida horses that deflated when they lost home court advantage in the classics. Hey Byrn is in the same boat.

See Suave Prospect, Built For Pleasure, Notebook, Pistols And Roses, Certain, Hal's Hope, Bull In The Heather, Technology, Mecke, Ride The Rails, Booklet, Meadow Flight, Trust N Luck, and Frisk Me Now for further details.

The rich Lone Star Derby would be the logical next spot.

Kasept 04-22-2008 03:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS
I think Bellamy Road was the favorite that year...

However, Smooth Air is as much Afleet Alex as Freddy Mitchell was Randy Moss.

'4th and 26'

hoovesupsideyourhead 04-22-2008 04:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
I'll give you your $100 back

me too...and ive already got one pm me im serious

ddthetide 04-22-2008 05:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RolloTomasi
What does this mean exactly? Didn't Afleet Alex lose the Kentucky Derby as the favorite?

bellamy road was the favorite. AA was a fast closing and close third. a little less traffic and AA wins.
AA was the best conditioned and hardest working horse that year. i think smooth air could be the same this year.

The Bid 04-22-2008 06:50 AM

Very serious shot

booner 04-22-2008 08:59 AM

He will be in all my bets on Derby Day.

HaloWishingwell 04-22-2008 09:12 AM

[b][i]This crop should be compared to past harness horses NOT to anyone in the past. COURT VISION with AFLEET ALEX? Not in record, talent or ability to eat hay.

HaloWishingwell 04-22-2008 09:47 AM

and if they like COURT VISION that much they might as well use ANAK NAKAL who was right behind him in the Wood and has won a Graded race at CD.

miraja2 04-22-2008 09:58 AM

I can't think of a single legitimate reason why anyone would consider this colt to be a contender to win the race.
He's a nice animal with a smart trainer, and he certainly gives an honest effort, but the day this colt wins a 10f, G1 race is the same day merasmag wins a pulitzer.


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