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Kasept 04-20-2008 04:19 PM

4/23 C/O's: AQU-$44k; KEE-$72k
 
$44k+ carry at AQU for Wed. and certain to be one at KEE...

Contests forthcoming!

pointman 04-20-2008 04:22 PM

If I heard right, no one hit 5 of 6 at Aqueduct today.

Cannon Shell 04-20-2008 04:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pointman
If I heard right, no one hit 5 of 6 at Aqueduct today.

KEE neither..

philcski 04-21-2008 09:49 PM

Some notes for KEE P6 Weds...

R6: Read the clocker's comments on #2, Sky Mission. John Ward is a master at getting nothing out of something but this homebred might be something even he can't screw up, and Prado hops on. #6 Butler Rock "Speedy gate move while being roused in the stretch", Graham/Fox is an excellent longshot connection and this one should be ready first out, especially with that pedigree. #7 Bayrod had an absolute nightmare trip first out, ran up and nearly clipped heels twice, and got sent into the rail on the turn. Form says "steadied" but I'd call it more like "nearly pulled up". Worth another look. #8 Nafzger/Borel/Tafel always worth a 2nd look but this one has NO talent. #12 Full Charge worked in company with Visionaire and got his doors blown off by that one. Would think he's worth excluding here, despite coming out of a key SAR MSW.

R7 #4 Closeout is an absolute standout. It isn't fun singling in a 12 horse field, but watch the replay of her debut; walks out of the gate and spots them 15 lengths, and still blows them away.

R8 #6 Korbyn Gold looks tough but I'm also using #1 Last Gran Standing, clockers are all over this one with "best work of day" comments. Looks like Korbyn's only competition if he's ready, and it sounds like he is. Werner's horse looks tough but I don't think he's fast enough at 6 1/2.

Scav 04-21-2008 09:56 PM

Phil, in the 6th, check out Ecton Road, I remember this horse taking alot of action last time and running pretty well.

I can't believe you are touting Ward right now :)

philcski 04-21-2008 10:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scav
Phil, in the 6th, check out Ecton Road, I remember this horse taking alot of action last time and running pretty well.

I can't believe you are touting Ward right now :)

I'll use Ecton Road defensively, he took some money on Fl Derby day off some pretty average works, and basically did nothing with a good trip. One poor work since but Desormeaux sticks around and this race is WIDE open.

I must be sick... I absolutely detest Ward.

docicu3 04-22-2008 03:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by philcski
I'll use Ecton Road defensively, he took some money on Fl Derby day off some pretty average works, and basically did nothing with a good trip. One poor work since but Desormeaux sticks around and this race is WIDE open.

I must be sick... I absolutely detest Ward.


It's not like you to be so negative about a horseman. Ward is a fairly accomplished 2 year old trainer which you probably know a lot more about than me. Why so strong a feeling about this guy?

philcski 04-22-2008 06:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by docicu3
It's not like you to be so negative about a horseman. Ward is a fairly accomplished 2 year old trainer which you probably know a lot more about than me. Why so strong a feeling about this guy?

two reasons- one, no one gets more with less. he has one of the strongest owner/breeders in the world in Oxley, and his combined record in '08? 0-fer 12. second, he is the king of wasted stall space. i don't remember the exact numbers but i believe he had 20 stalls at saratoga last year and ran a grand total of like 8 times at the meet. people complaining about short fields? well guys like him are the reason.

Scav 04-22-2008 08:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by philcski
two reasons- one, no one gets more with less. he has one of the strongest owner/breeders in the world in Oxley, and his combined record in '08? 0-fer 12. second, he is the king of wasted stall space. i don't remember the exact numbers but i believe he had 20 stalls at saratoga last year and ran a grand total of like 8 times at the meet. people complaining about short fields? well guys like him are the reason.

You know what though Phil, a place like Toga will remember stuff like that and cut him in half, maybe even less, especially if there are others that want to come. My guess is that they weren't too happy about those 8 starts.

People that are hilarious always get bite in the ass, sometimes it just takes longer then expected.

Tracknet is a perfect example, unless the THG folds like a kid that just did something really wrong, Tracknet is going to look real bad come Saturday/Sunday, all next week when you can't bet Churchill Downs on TWINSPIRES.com.....

stonecutter 04-22-2008 09:07 PM

Aqueduct pick 6 ticket.......
 
traveling tommorrow...need to post early

4-5-7-with 2-7 with 2-4-7 with 3-6-7 with 3-4-5-6-8-10-11 with 3

4-5-7 with 2 with 2-4-7 with 3-6-7- with 10 with 3
2-8 with 2 with 2-4-7- with 3-6-7 with 10 with 3
4-5-7 with 7 with 2-4-7 with 3-6-7 with with 10 with 3
4-5-7 with 2 with 1-3 with 3-6-7 with 10 with 3
4-5-7 with 2 with 2-4-7 with 3-6-7 with 3-4-5-6-8-11 with 3
4-5-7 with 2 with 2-4-7 with 3-6-7 with 10 with 2-9-10

dylbert 04-22-2008 10:19 PM

AQU & KEE P6 selections... for 4/23
 
AQU: 4,5 // 2 // 2,3 // 1,1A,4,5 // 2,8 // 3,5,8,9,10 = $320

KEE: 7,9,10 // 4,10 // 6,8,9,10,11,12 // 4,9,12 // 1,6,7 // 5,6,11 = $1,944

Gotta post picks now... early bed, early work tomorrow

Good Luck to All!

MISTERGEE 04-22-2008 10:20 PM

aqu pic -6
 
low budget with 3 key pic 6

4)4-6-7-9
5)2
6)2
7)2-3-4-5
8)8
9)3-4-8-9

some scary keys, but for $128 worth a shot

Bogey 04-22-2008 11:46 PM

Keeneland PK6
R4 - 9 10 / 4 8 / 2 8 9 / 4 6 / 1 5 6 7 / 5 10 = $192
Good Racing Luck

golfer 04-23-2008 05:33 AM

Aqueduct:

1,5,6,7
2
2,3
1,3,4,5,6,7
1,3,8,9
3,9,10

Keeneland:
1,9,10
4,5,10
2,8,9,10,12
4,7
1,6
3,6

herkhorse 04-23-2008 06:33 AM

Keeneland contest pics:

10/1-7-8-10/2-3-6-9-12/4-6-7/3-6/3-6

3-5-7-9-10/1-7-8-9-10/9-12/4/3-5-6-7/3-6

3-5-7/8/2-6-9-12/4/6/3-6

5-7-10/1-7-8/8-9/4/3-5-6-7/1-2-3-6

cowgirlintexas 04-23-2008 07:10 AM

Aqueduct Pick 6

7,10
2,7,10
10,11
4
1,6
1,6


$96.00

a_rookie 04-23-2008 07:39 AM

KEE

4 5 10
7
6 8 9 11
3 6 9
1
2 6 9 10

AQU

4
2
2
3 4 5
7 8
3 4 7 8

HOL

4 6
1 7
4
7
2 3
2 5 6 14

for an even $400

declansharbor 04-23-2008 10:51 AM

KEE Carry...
2,4,5,8,9,10 / 1,4,7,10 / 2,10,11,12 / 4 / 5,6 / 6,9
5,8,10 / 5,8,10 / 9,10,11 / 1,4,6,7,9 / 1,6,7 / 6
6,9,10 / 2,9,10 / 6,11 / 4,6 / 4,6 / 1,6,11 2k on the button


AQU Carry...
4,5 / 2 / 2,3 / 5,7 / ALL / 3,4,6,8,9
4,7 / 2 / 3,7 / 3,4,5,6 / 2,6 / 3,6,9
5,7,10 / 2 / 2,3,4,7 / 2,6,8 / ALL / 9
4,5,10 / 2 / 2,3 / ALL / 2,6,10 / 6,10 $1912


Best of luck to those playing today!!

philcski 04-23-2008 10:53 AM

6,9/2,7,8/2,6,7,11/4/1,6/2,6 $192
1,3,7,8,10/2,7,8/2,6,7,11/4/1,6/2,6 $480
6,9/4,9,10/2,6,7,11/4/1,6/2,6 $192
6,9/2,7,8/1,5,9,10/4/1,6/2,6 $192
6,9/2,7,8/2,6,7,11/4/1,6/1,3,9,10 $384
6,9/3,6/2,6,7,11/4/6/6 $32
6,9/2,7,8/2,6,7,11/4/6/5 $48


total = $2,000

swedejxn 04-23-2008 11:12 AM

9-8-4
10-8-4-2
8-9-7
4-1-7
2-5-1
5-11

$1296

9-8-4
8-10
8-9-10
4
1-2-6-7
5-6-11-3

$576

10-9
10-8
10-8
4-1
6-2
6-5

$128

pmacdaddy 04-23-2008 11:13 AM

Big A
 
Get some practice in at Big A:

AB
R4 - 4,5,6,7
R5 - 2,7
R6 - 2,3,7
R7 - 3,7
R8 - 2,8,10
R9 - 1,3,4,10
$1,152

AC
R4 - 4,5,7
R5* - 8
R6 - 2,3
R7 - 3,7
R8 - 8,10
R9 - 1,3,4,10
$192

AC
R4 - 4,5,7
R5 - 2
R6* - 4
R7 - 3,7
R8 - 8,10
R9 - 1,3,4,10
$96

AC
R4 - 4,5,7
R5 - 2
R6 - 2,3
R7* - 2,4,5
R8 - 8,10
R9 - 1,3,4,10
$288

AC
R4 - 4,5,7
R5 - 2
R6 - 2,3
R7 - 3,7
R8* - 4
R9 - 1,3,4,10
$96

AC
R4 - 4,5,7
R5 - 2
R6 - 2,3
R7 - 3,7
R8 - 8,10
R9* - 8,9
$96

AC
R4* - 3,8
R5 - 2
R6 - 2,3
R7 - 3
R8 - 8,10
R9 - 1,3,4
$48

Grand Total $1,988

Good Luck!!!

cassie 04-23-2008 11:33 AM

\big A

1,5,6,7/2/2,3,7/all/2,8,10/3,4,9 $1728

4,5/2,7/2,3,7/3,6/2/3,4,9 $144


keeneland

3,5,7,9,10/5,7,8,10/1,6,7,8,9/4,7/1,6/5,6,11 $1800:)

Heels1989 04-23-2008 11:34 AM

Big A

Tix 1 ($1728)

R4 4/5/7
R5 2
R6 2/3/4/7
R7 2/3/4/5/6/7/8
R8 2/8/10
R9 3/4/9

Tix 2 ($256)

R4 1/5
R5 2/7
R6 2/3
R7 3/4/5/7
R8 4/8
R9 8/9

Tix 3 ($16)

R4 5
R5 2
R6 2/3
R7 2/5
R8 8
R9 3/9

$2000

G/L

Scav 04-23-2008 11:50 AM

Keeneland

4: 4,7,9,10
5: 4,8,10
6: 6,9,11,12
7: 4,10
8: 1.7
9: 6

$384

pointman 04-23-2008 11:53 AM

Aqueduct

Ticket #1 - $1,800

4- 4,5,7
5- 2,7
6- 2,3,7
7- 3,4,5,7,8
8- 2,8
9- 2,3,4,5,9

Ticket #2 - $64

4- 8,10
5- 2,7
6- 2,3
7- 3,5
8- 8
9- 3,4

Ticket #3 - $128

4- 4,5
5- 2
6- 2,3
7- 3,5
8- 3,5,6,10
9- 3,4

Total = $1,992.

Keeneland

Ticket #1 - $1,440

4- 1,7,9,10
5- 4,5,8,10
6- 9,10,12
7- 4
8- 1,5,6
9- 2,4,6,9,10

Ticket #2 - $96

4- 3,5
5- 5,10
6- 9,10,12
7- 4
8- 1,6
9- 2,10

Ticket #3 - $96

4- 1,7
5- 2,7
6- 9,10,12
7- 4
8- 1,6
9- 2,10

Ticket #4 - $64

4- 1,7
5- 5,10
6- 2,11
7- 4
8- 1,6
9- 2,10

Ticket #5 - $192

4- 1,7
5- 5,10
6- 9,10,12
7- 7,14
8- 1,6
9- 2,10

Ticket #6 - $48

4- 1,7
5- 5,10
6- 9,10,12
7- 4
8- 7
9- 2,10

Ticket #7 - $48

4- 1,7
5- 5,10
6- 9,10,12
7- 4
8- 1,6
9- 5

Total Keeneland = $1,984. Good luck to those playing!

jms62 04-23-2008 12:26 PM

4) 4,5
5) 2,6,7
6) 2,3,7
7) 4,5,6
8) 7,8,10
9) 3,4,5,9

1296

4) 4,5,10,1
5) 2
6) 3,7
7) 1,4,5,6
8) 8,10
9) 3,4,5,9,10

640

1936

the_fat_man 04-23-2008 01:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by philcski
#7 Bayrod had an absolute nightmare trip first out, ran up and nearly clipped heels twice, and got sent into the rail on the turn. Form says "steadied" but I'd call it more like "nearly pulled up". Worth another look.

I don't know if the trouble was that pronounced, though the horse certainly wasn't asked late. But, it seems as if Edgar Prado has made quite a habit lately of getting squeezed on the rail going into the turn. I realize that many of the jocks down in Florida (and generally) are idiots and don't think twice about coming in on the turn and pinching the inside horse BUT I'd except someone who has been riding as long as Prado has to be aware of, and compensate for, this.
It's obvious the stewards will never take action and put an end to this, until, I suppose, someone is killed as a result of it.

pmacdaddy 04-23-2008 04:25 PM

Dang. I had Allaboutmack to complete contest pk6 at BigA. Was it close?

TheSpyder 04-23-2008 04:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pmacdaddy
Dang. I had Allaboutmack to complete contest pk6 at BigA. Was it close?

1/2 length

pointman 04-23-2008 04:44 PM

[quote=pointman]Aqueduct

Ticket #1 - $1,800

4- 4,5,7
5- 2,7
6- 2,3,7
7- 3,4,5,7,8
8- 2,8
9- 2,3,4,5,9


Damn, live to 5 and couldn't get this one done!

pmacdaddy 04-23-2008 04:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheSpyder
1/2 length

Thanks Spyder. Would have hurt if I had punched that one...:eek:

Heels1989 04-23-2008 05:49 PM

Nick and Pat. Nice job on 5 for 6. I had a little ticket structure issue today. :(

pmacdaddy 04-23-2008 06:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Heels1989
Nick and Pat. Nice job on 5 for 6. I had a little ticket structure issue today. :(

Thanks. Unfortunately consos didn't get me quite even. Think Nick, just cleared breakeven.

Thought of bringing in Allaboutmack was fun though. He is definitely one of those guys I have been following for a LONG time for no real good reason.

Contests threads are definitely the place to work out the structure kinks out and practice.

pointman 04-23-2008 10:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Heels1989
Nick and Pat. Nice job on 5 for 6. I had a little ticket structure issue today. :(

Thanks, Heels. Knew that last was tough. Nice job in sticking that 8 in the last on your tickets. And Pmac, I knew you have been an Allaboutmack fan for awhile, he put in a nice effort today. Almost!

zippyneedsawin 04-24-2008 04:56 AM

Obviously it wasn't easy to hit, but after looking at the prices of the winners, it's very surprising to me that it paid 174K.. I mean the winners paid:

Race 4) $5.40 (8/5)
Race 5) $7.30 (5/2)
Race 6) $8.70 (3/1)
Race 7) $6.70 (2/1)
Race 8) $8.60 (3/1)
Race 9) $23.80 (10/1)


Every winner EXCEPT the Absolute Return in the last (the highest price winner), paid less than its morning line odds. Of course, beating some big favorites (like mackinaw) makes a big difference too. Still... dang!

pmacdaddy 04-24-2008 08:40 AM

Agree. Parlay was $14,700 so payout was well over 10X!!!

My guess is there were a ton of singles on Contessa in the 5th. Also maybe not the same level of real big budget players because it was "only" a single carryover?

Not a cinch to get all those on the same ticket, but by no means impossible.

Kind of makes you rethink just waiting for the mega carryovers to play...


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