Tomcito !!!
 

working like a true monster beast at keenland, dam....

Tuesday morning, Tomcito sharpened for the race by working three furlongs from the gate in 34.60 seconds over the Keeneland Polytrack.

"I think I have the horse to beat," Zanelli said. "He is getting better and better, and he is not even blowing" after the work.

all the horses will be working well, yadda yadda. you hear that every year.

not from pg.

if he's touting something it's based on more than a passing fancy.

listen and learn rookie.

im not touting him... i liked him in florida, and his third really did not do it for me.
if he runs well this weekend and makes it to the derby he could be interesting

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"You know what's not weird? Is the fact that you continue to make weird posts."

they're not weird. you couldn't predict weird.

but ever since pg came back you could depend on a post after a prep was run that he liked the winner in the derby. sometimes the second place runner.

just wait for the lexington and see.

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likes quoting self.

the trainer comments aside, I think this horse could very well figure prominently. he is one of the few that you know will be fine with the distance and will not be backing up. only one race this year and it wasn't overwhelming by any means but he might have needed that one. He had a solid foundation last year including 10 and 12 furlongs, could be a logical one to use as an exotics key.

Most importantly, he has a three syllable name. How many "t" horses have won the Derby in the last, say, 20 years? Thunder Gulch (also three syllables)?

yeah I had forgotten about that angle.

Street Sense broke a streak of six straight three syllable winners of the Derby.

Maybe he's another polytrack lover that can win the Lexington, but he's not Derby material.

Why do you say that? The horse has raced exclusively on the real stuff throughout his career - and won.

There were a couple of babies who worked a 1/4 over the polytrack at KEE in 20 2/5th seconds.

For very short distances - that surface is insanely fast compared to dirt. The longer they go - the much, much, much slower they go.

can you say derby fever, theres probably 20 trainers right now claiming they have the horse to beat ! watch the races , read the horses form and come up with a vialable horse at a valuable price. if you listen to trainers and owners you'll be betting all 19 or 20 of them ! watch the next 3 weeks ,if you listen to sports casters and writers , most who know nothing about horse racing . big brown will be Gods gift , take the chalky price and take your lumps derby day .

Very true. Damn near every 4 1/2-panel baby race I see there goes in :50 and change.

In Peru.

why did you say he might be a polytrack lover? he's never been on that surface.

and yes he raced in Peru, but he was winning by some pretty gaudy margins. he might fit in very well with this rather undistinguished group we have this year.

that actually makes a lot of sense... i mean the group has done nothing, he did run third off of a long long layoff, you'd figure a 2-3 this weekend, and he's be primed 3 start back for the derby... not impossible

I think that's a bit harsh, Hossy. A claimer? Are the nine or so horses who finished in arrears of Tomcito in the Florida Derby all claimers as well? Hey Byrn? Fierce Wind?

I think what Hossy is overlooking is the fact that Tomcito is three syllables.

The first Sunday in May can't get here soon enough.

we can just paste in the Caesar thread as there can't be anything that wasn't covered about this horse in there

He will basically pass everything that totally stops in front of him....

Which might actually be quite a few horses in this years Derby.

He could run a nice 9th or 10th if the pace is hot enough

A must include in the Super High 9?

i might sound stupid but what is all this pg stuff about it seems to keep coming up with regards to jcs

JCS used to post here as the legendary PG1985

Honestly I kinda like the horse. He does make some sense but he's one to watch IF he makes it in the gate Derby day...

are you being serious ?
what makes him a claimer ?

legendary status ?

Might be able to get 4th or 5th if things COMPLETELY melt down... note the Imawildncrazyguy types- which is a lot more upside than most of these plugs. If I'm right, and the Florida Derby Beyer was actually too low, then he's got a legit chance to finish in the top quarter of the race (with a 0% chance of actually winning)

Unfortunately I think we're saying that about 80% of the field this year. Boy does this group suck.

It would be nice if the powers that be change jcs' name back to POINTGIVEN1985.

Sheerly out of curiosity, has anybody ever seen any of Tomcito's races back in Peru?

Of course not. I don't need to see any of his races to know he's got a legitimate shot of winning the Derby. Three syllables...man.

Yes - they are on YouTube.

I've also looked at the charts and final times of other races on the card the days he ran - he was not exactly running alarmingly fast times over there in Peru in relation to other dirt races on the card.

I saw one on YouTube once.

Pantsy, you're speaking to the choir. This will clearly be the reason for Big Brown's downfall. (That and the incredible lack of foundation, but I digress)