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hoovesupsideyourhead 04-08-2008 07:37 PM

HOOVES keeneland selections weds 4/9
 
the blues card....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bsMpH...eature=related


race 1 6f claiming 30k

pp 4 tuesday silence ml 20-1 ralfie does not bring rat gomez up
pp 8 ft apachee star ml 8-1
pp 5 winners story ml 3-1
pp 9 yankeesswept in four ml 5-1

race 2 4.5 f msw 50k

pp 3 wild jersy boy ml 10-1
pp 2 down rigger ml 5/2
pp 1a dicey ricey entry ml 5-1 trained up like a q horse..yikes

race 3 7f allw 58k

pp 5 bunjiali ml 7/5 should win
pp 1 gstaad ml 5-1 will be all out toss last

race 4 1 mile and 1/16th on the turf allw 54k

pp 4 holy grace ml 3-1
pp 6 lookalaike ml 8-1
pp 11 forrest trail ml 8-1
pp 8 talking indian ml 12-1

race 5 6 f msw 50k

pp 3 glory creek ml 10-1
pp 7 forrest warfare ml 20-1 value play
pp 11 emberased ml 15-1 brought along slow..beware
pp 1 pure prize ml 12-1

sorry folks i see bombs away here........


race 6 6f allw 54k start of the pick 4 if you go wide you should hit..a backup singling pp 2 indian chant is recomended....... though i think he may not be the winner.........

pp 4 kenia river ml 8-1
pp 6 home town boy ml 4-1
pp 7 please include me ml 12-1 part of romans hold backs ..
pp 11 unjust ml 8-1 win place ........

race 7 6 f o/c 100k

pp 3 forrest blue ml 6-1
pp 6 elite squadran ml 6-1 faced much much better in last two
pp 4 bold start ml 4-1


race 8 7f the vinery madison

pp 4 windywindy indy ml 15-1 value play
pp 5 street sounds ml 10 -1
pp 7 VENTURA ML 6-1
PP 10 change up ml 12 -1 ..good luck to steve m this horse has consistanly showed up ready to run vs many very good horses

race 9 1 mile and 1/16th turf 54k

pp 2 thirteen moons ml 8-1
pp 6 born to be ml 10-1
pp 11 aljweeah ml 7/2
pp 8 summer courtship ml 15-1 toss last maker serious trainer........

those of you that download selections and head to the track but do not post much ..steve and i would like to hear from you..so at least say hello........

Scav 04-08-2008 07:38 PM

I can't believe you dont have Ventura on top, TRADER!!

hoovesupsideyourhead 04-08-2008 07:41 PM

:rolleyes: :cool:

Scav 04-08-2008 07:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hoovesupsideyourhead
:rolleyes: :cool:

:rolleyes: :cool: your ass....Chester House is rolling in his grave right now with his biggest supporter going against her, when she looks real good.

She is my pick in the race

GPK 04-08-2008 07:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scav
:rolleyes: :cool: your ass....Chester House is rolling in his grave right now with his biggest supporter going against her, when she looks real good.

She is my pick in the race

auto-toss

ArlJim78 04-08-2008 08:11 PM

some horses i'm looking at tomorrow on the turf, also on hooves list.

4th Forest Trail 8/1
9th Born To Be 10/1

Scav 04-08-2008 09:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GPK
auto-toss

No BS, I think she is a monster. Go watch her last race.....I know it was down the hill but she NEVER extended, and she already has a good number over tires. Seriously, this might be rubberband time

AND, I just saw that Frankel runs a top almost 40% of the time, turf to dirt. A top and she is the winner here

Scav 04-08-2008 09:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
Not really turf to dirt though Scav.

ok, so it is inbetween, whatever :). Turf/Synth he is 24% out of 41 starters per the DRF.

Bigsmc 04-09-2008 08:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scav
I can't believe you dont have Ventura on top, TRADER!!

Her off odds will be way too low for The Killa.

colt 45ss 04-09-2008 08:06 AM

what no love no kisses for zada belle?!

Scav 04-09-2008 08:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bigsmc
Her off odds will be way too low for The Killa.

I think she might be 3rd choice, and I had to guess, she will open up hot and then fade back to 3 or 4/1

Mike9J 04-09-2008 09:35 AM

Hello and Thanks
 
I am one of those that look over yours and Steve's and Bigs selections every day and don't post much
Just wanted to say hi and thank you guys for your insights. I have been playing the horses for 30 years and since joining Derbytrail, have changed my betting style do to your styles and advice. I now pretty much play pick 3's and 4's exclusively, and have a much healthier bankroll than i used to. My home track is Fort Erie, and i spend my summer there, even though i now need a passport to go to the track, but i can't wait to put what i've learned from you guys in action.
Thanks again and know i appreciate all the work that goes into your picks and postings.
Good luck and good health...
Mike9J

Bigsmc 04-09-2008 11:32 AM

Glad to hear the handicapping/bankroll has improved for you Mike9J.

Don't listen to me here, this is Hooves Country. Doesn't mean I can't try....:D

Early P4

2 - 1,2,3,5 (4 - Laver looks like he could be a good one with a bit more distance)
3 - 1,3,5
4 - 4,8,9
5 - 2,6,9

$54 on a $0.50 wager.

GL

the_fat_man 04-09-2008 11:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hoovesupsideyourhead
race 6 6f allw 54k start of the pick 4 if you go wide you should hit..a backup singling pp 2 indian chant is recomended....... though i think he may not be the winner.........

pp 4 kenia river ml 8-1
pp 6 home town boy ml 4-1
pp 7 please include me ml 12-1 part of romans hold backs ..
pp 11 unjust ml 8-1 win place ........

This just in from the Hough barn:

HOUGH was absolutely beside himself that this horse still has nuts. Hough can't believe that HTB's been around 2 years (a 4 year old) and has eluded getting clipped. He'll get right on it after today's race, win or lose. I mean, what would George Odom think.

Bigsmc 04-09-2008 12:36 PM

Late P4

6 - 3,9,11
7 - 2,3,5
8 - 7,9,11
9 - 2,3,6,8

GL

Bigsmc 04-09-2008 12:40 PM

Race 2

No buzz horse in here. 7-2 favorites with 7-1 being the longest shot on the board at 2mtp.

Bigsmc 04-09-2008 01:16 PM

Race 3:

The only reason I threw the 1 in there is that I thought he'd have a 5 length lead down the backstretch and maybe could hang on. What was Leparoux doing/thinking? It was his only shot. Instead he slows it down, let's the 3 get to him and the horse packs it in.

Scav 04-09-2008 01:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bigsmc
Race 3:

The only reason I threw the 1 in there is that I thought he'd have a 5 length lead down the backstretch and maybe could hang on. What was Leparoux doing/thinking? It was his only shot. Instead he slows it down, let's the 3 get to him and the horse packs it in.

Keep this after race analysis crap up. I need to see the winners of the 6/7/8...I was going to try and wait until i got to school to watch the replays, but that has about a zero shot of happening....

Bigsmc 04-09-2008 01:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scav
Keep this after race analysis crap up. I need to see the winners of the 6/7/8...I was going to try and wait until i got to school to watch the replays, but that has about a zero shot of happening....

No analysis, just whining.

I'm only going to be around for another hour or so, so I'm not going to be much help.

Scav 04-09-2008 01:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bigsmc
No analysis, just whining.

I'm only going to be around for another hour or so, so I'm not going to be much help.

THE DT Nation will rise and help out Scavarino, this is not a doubt.

Scav 04-09-2008 01:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scav
THE DT Nation will rise and help out Scavarino, this is not a doubt.

I just found out that I can watch Keeneland races live from my work.....They must either like the Keeneland site or not have blocked it yet.

Odds on getting fired = not really sure :)

declansharbor 04-09-2008 01:33 PM

Late p4
6- 3,7,11
7- 2
8- 4,7,8,11
9- 4,7,10

late p3
7- 2,3
8- 7,10,11
9- 2,4

WP on Please Include Me in the 6th.

Sucks that I have to go back to work until 8 tonight...wont' be able to watch my money go up in flames....

Best of luck to those playing today!!

Bigsmc 04-09-2008 01:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scav
THE DT Nation will rise and help out Scavarino, this is not a doubt.

Scavinci,

Interesting firster in tomorrow's 6th. 1-Charming, by Seeking the Gold out of Take Charge Lady. Only a $3.2 mil purchase by Scatuorchio.

No doubt will be pounded at the window as Momma ruled Kentucky....

At 2: WON Alcibiades S. (G2,8.5F); 2nd Golden Rod S. (G2,8.5F)
At 3: WON Spinster S. (G1,9F), Ashland S. (G1,8.5F), Fair Grounds Oaks (G2,8.5F), Silverbulletday S. (G3,8.5F), Dogwood S. (G3,8.5F); 2ND Kentucky Oaks (G1,9F), Alabama S. (G1,10F), Gazelle H. (G1,9F), Falls City H. (G2,9F)
At 4: WON Spinster S. (G1,9F), Arlington Matron H. (G3,9F); 2ND Apple Blossom H. (G1,8.5F), Ogden Phipps H. (G1,8.5F), Delaware H. (G2,10F)

Scav 04-09-2008 01:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bigsmc
Scavinci,

Interesting firster in tomorrow's 6th. 1-Charming, by Seeking the Gold out of Take Charge Lady. Only a $3.2 mil purchase by Scatuorchio.

No doubt will be pounded at the window as Momma ruled Kentucky....

At 2: WON Alcibiades S. (G2,8.5F); 2nd Golden Rod S. (G2,8.5F)
At 3: WON Spinster S. (G1,9F), Ashland S. (G1,8.5F), Fair Grounds Oaks (G2,8.5F), Silverbulletday S. (G3,8.5F), Dogwood S. (G3,8.5F); 2ND Kentucky Oaks (G1,9F), Alabama S. (G1,10F), Gazelle H. (G1,9F), Falls City H. (G2,9F)
At 4: WON Spinster S. (G1,9F), Arlington Matron H. (G3,9F); 2ND Apple Blossom H. (G1,8.5F), Ogden Phipps H. (G1,8.5F), Delaware H. (G2,10F)

TOMMORROW MEANS NOTHING right now. CRUSHING today means EVERYTHING.

Since when do you bet 3/5??

Kasept 04-09-2008 01:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike9J
I am one of those that look over yours and Steve's and Bigs selections every day and don't post much
Just wanted to say hi and thank you guys for your insights. I have been playing the horses for 30 years and since joining Derbytrail, have changed my betting style do to your styles and advice. I now pretty much play pick 3's and 4's exclusively, and have a much healthier bankroll than i used to. My home track is Fort Erie, and i spend my summer there, even though i now need a passport to go to the track, but i can't wait to put what i've learned from you guys in action.
Thanks again and know i appreciate all the work that goes into your picks and postings.
Good luck and good health...
Mike9J

Mike,

What a nice compliment this is to everyone that contributes their insight at DT. It means a great deal to me to hear that people have done well or improved their enjoyment of the game via the website. I also know that those that make their raceday opinions public here appreciate hearing that it is time well spent. Continued success and don't be shy about 'mixing it up' with the Trail faithful...

Regards,
Steve

Bigsmc 04-09-2008 01:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scav
TOMMORROW MEANS NOTHING right now. CRUSHING today means EVERYTHING.

Since when do you bet 3/5??

Scavocaster,

Rub the sleep out of your eyes and please point out to me where in that post did I say I was betting on her?

I just said she was interesting. BIG play against, because they will pound her.

If she wins by 10 do they get Oaks Fever?

the_fat_man 04-09-2008 01:44 PM

It's amazing how Kent D finds ways to make the simple difficult.

Scav 04-09-2008 01:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bigsmc
Scavocaster,

Rub the sleep out of your eyes and please point out to me where in that post did I say I was betting on her?

I just said she was interesting. BIG play against, because they will pound her.

If she wins by 10 do they get Oaks Fever?

here going to the oaks would help us tremendously. CHUCK HER OUT!!!

Bigsmc 04-09-2008 01:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scav
here going to the oaks would help us tremendously. CHUCK HER OUT!!!

I highly doubt they are that dumb, but....


TFM, I'm watching on the small screen (with buffering). Was that Kent on the inside with the white cap trying to force his way through in the stretch? That was the point I lost my video.

*edit* Replay coming up, I'll check it out.

*edit #2* COMEDY, I lost the video on the backstretch this time. I guess I'll watch the replay when I get home.

the_fat_man 04-09-2008 01:59 PM

Very interesting when comparing the pan shot with the headon.

In the straight shot it appears that Kent was on the inside, chasing, while in fact he was in 4 path. So, it makes sense when horses passed him on the inside late backstretch (guess the inside is not the place to be). What doesn't make sense is why he shuffled the horse back. Got her stuck behind horses, as a result.

In the stretch, he was waiting for room, on the wrong lead, bulled his way through, knocking the horse to his outside out into another horse, then changed leads and took off.

Also, the 7 ducked out at the break; I mean severely. The type of duckout you typically see when a horse is on the outside.

Wonder why the stewards didn't look into the stretch run.

Bigsmc 04-09-2008 02:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the_fat_man
Very interesting when comparing the pan shot with the headon.

In the straight shot it appears that Kent was on the inside, chasing, while in fact he was in 4 path. So, it makes sense when horses passed him on the inside late backstretch (guess the inside is not the place to be). What doesn't make sense is why he shuffled the horse back. Got her stuck behind horses, as a result.

In the stretch, he was waiting for room, on the wrong lead, bulled his way through, knocking the horse to his outside out into another horse, then changed leads and took off.

Also, the 7 ducked out at the break; I mean severely. The type of duckout you typically see when a horse is on the outside.

Wonder why the stewards didn't look into the stretch run.

They've made some interesting calls and non-calls so far this meet. There was one in Saturday's 7th. While I watched it live, I thought the winner was coming down....they never had an inquiry.

Scav 04-09-2008 02:45 PM

I can't believe I just got nosed by Freedom Alert. I know he has been working well but come on....

Kasept 04-09-2008 02:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scav
I can't believe I just got nosed by Freedom Alert. I know he has been working well but come on....

Thought you were on Unjust?

fantini33 04-09-2008 02:49 PM

I singled #6 Elite Squadron in a Pick 3. Does Keeneland use Post Time Fav as replacement, or pay consos?

Scav 04-09-2008 02:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kasept
Thought you were on Unjust?

I had 9,11 on the P3's....I talked about using both earlier in your thread.

Scav 04-09-2008 02:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fantini33
I singled #6 Elite Squadron in a Pick 3. Does Keeneland use Post Time Fav as replacement, or pay consos?

Think you are getting post time favorite, but I could be wrong

Scav 04-09-2008 02:58 PM

Byk, relook at that sheet and tell me we didn't miss out on this one. Ran a good number on a dead rail last time, gets off the rail and finishes strong. Trainer is unplayable, but jock is playable. Missed opportunity right there as an include I think....

Mike 04-09-2008 03:19 PM

I'm going with Looky Yonder(Dutrow) here, surprised at the opening of 18-1, as Brisnet's Handicapper's Edge picks Looky Yonder as the upset,also.

Scav 04-09-2008 03:19 PM

I am absolutely sick to my stomach seeing this horse open up at 9/5....


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