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Scav 04-07-2008 10:20 AM

Memphis dilemna
 
Coach, what is your thoughts on tonights game, I see Memphis is up to -2...I'll go into further what I am thinking and why after your response.

What is the Money line for both Memphis and Kansas?

SniperSB23 04-07-2008 10:30 AM

What possible reason would there be to take Memphis on the money line? They haven't won a game by 2 points or less all year. The chance of Memphis winning by 1 is so slim with their free throw shooting that you might as well just give the two points.

Scav 04-07-2008 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by SniperSB23
What possible reason would there be to take Memphis on the money line? They haven't won a game by 2 points or less all year. The chance of Memphis winning by 1 is so slim with their free throw shooting that you might as well just give the two points.

HOW about you give me what the money line is and I will explain later captain genius, and it was more to just have it, then actually needing it

SniperSB23 04-07-2008 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Scav
HOW about you give me what the money line is and I will explain later captain genius, and it was more to just have it, then actually needing it

OK, but unless you feel the difference in the payouts offsets the probability of a 1 point Memphis win then it is a stupid bet. Taking Kansas +2 would be stupid too when you can get better value on the moneyline.

Coach Pants 04-07-2008 10:39 AM

The line opening at -1 Kansas has me stumped. Makes me think the linemakers know something that I don't. The only reason I can think of is that they think Rush is the best player on the court and has the capability to take the game over. I'm not convinced he will. He has a tendency to let his teammates do the scoring.

My overall opinion of the game is that Memphis' speed will be too much for Kansas to overcome. Plus I'd take Calamari over Self in a coaching duel any day of the week.

Scav 04-07-2008 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by SniperSB23
OK, but unless you feel the difference in the payouts offsets the probability of a 1 point Memphis win then it is a stupid bet. Taking Kansas +2 would be stupid too when you can get better value on the moneyline.

REMIND me to slap you when I next see you....

SniperSB23 04-07-2008 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Scav
REMIND me to slap you when I next see you....

Stop being a dick and explain your logic. The probability of a Memphis win by 1 or 2 is extremely slim so why would you bet anything but Memphis (-2) or Kansas on the moneyline?

Scav 04-07-2008 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Coach Pants
The line opening at -1 Kansas has me stumped. Makes me think the linemakers know something that I don't. The only reason I can think of is that they think Rush is the best player on the court and has the capability to take the game over. I'm not convinced he will. He has a tendency to let his teammates do the scoring.

My overall opinion of the game is that Memphis' speed will be too much for Kansas to overcome. Plus I'd take Calamari over Self in a coaching duel any day of the week.

Ok, so check this. Right now I am sitting on a $200 Future wager on Memphis at 7/1($1600 payout), so do I do what I want to do and let it ride, OR do I listen to my friends and play Kansas on the money line, which is probably about +120, for say $400 or $500 and essentially cut my 7/1 half...

Scav 04-07-2008 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by SniperSB23
Stop being a dick and explain your logic. The probability of a Memphis win by 1 or 2 is extremely slim so why would you bet anything but Memphis (-2) or Kansas on the moneyline?

Snappy this morning are we?

Coach Pants 04-07-2008 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Scav
Ok, so check this. Right now I am sitting on a $200 Future wager on Memphis at 7/1($1600 payout), so do I do what I want to do and let it ride, OR do I listen to my friends and play Kansas on the money line, which is probably about +120, for say $400 or $500 and essentially cut my 7/1 half...

I'd rather lose the $200 than cut my winnings that much.

Scav 04-07-2008 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Coach Pants
I'd rather lose the $200 than cut my winnings that much.

This is what I thought, I already considered the $200 lost anyways when I bet it

I am probably just going to let it ride, and if I get nosed at the wire in this game, like every horse bet from this weekend(see last races at SA on both Friday and Saturday, they weren't 'noses' but they were some pretty tough beats, had Futuro in a large DD, and the middle horse in large DD's, and the 11 on Saturday would have given 5 out of 6 plus a large P3), then I get nosed...

Coach Pants 04-07-2008 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Scav
This is what I thought, I already considered the $200 lost anyways when I bet it

I am probably just going to let it ride, and if I get nosed at the wire in this game, like every horse bet from this weekend, then I get nosed...

Right. Covering the bet takes the fun and the accomplishment out of it.

Let that b.itch ride.

GBBob 04-07-2008 10:57 AM

701 kansas -1.5 -05 146 / 146.5 / 147 147.5 +105
702 memphis u 144 -1 +01 / -1 / -1.5 -2 -125

That's from http://www.scoresandodds.com

Usually a very accurate indicator of what Vegas is doing'

Scav 04-07-2008 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Coach Pants
Right. Covering the bet takes the fun and the accomplishment out of it.

Let that b.itch ride.

That is exactly what I am doing. TIME TO GET PUMPED COACH....

My friends are a bunch of panzies, I have one friend that thinks he is the next Brandon Lang (see his website, investmentsports.com, STOP BETTING on SPORTS AND START INVESTING :)) and the others are conservatives.....

Scav 04-07-2008 10:58 AM

The only thing I am worried about is how that lined opened, as Coach said. I thought for sure it was the other way, and the public is falling in love with telfon John and his superstar city boys.

GBBob 04-07-2008 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Scav
The only thing I am worried about is how that lined opened, as Coach said. I thought for sure it was the other way, and the public is falling in love with telfon John and his superstar city boys.

Your bet is in Scavs...Don't read another thing or follow any line changes. JUST WATCH THE GAME. You can't affect anything that happens now anyway

Scav 04-07-2008 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
We're fucl<ed Scavs as PG1985 mentioned yesterday he liked Memphis. I already scaled my bet down in half. I also have a future on them, not to mention I win the Derby Trail tourney if they win.

Maybe two handicapping afficiendos such as ourselves can outmanuever the mushing powers that this guy possesses....

gales0678 04-07-2008 01:57 PM

tonight
 
Scav,

i finally found a computer , make sure you double down on memphis, play them hard for the 1st half and for the game don't let up take them at halftime as well - this is there year

Scav 04-07-2008 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by gales0678
Scav,

i finally found a computer , make sure you double down on memphis, play them hard for the 1st half and for the game don't let up take them at halftime as well - this is there year

ABOUT TIME. By the way, you realize I work 8-5 now in a cubicle type environment, right? Thus I can't be picking up my cell phone blazing up a conversation about horse racing, poker, or woman in that area :)

whodey17 04-07-2008 02:37 PM

I dont know if Memphis has better overall speed to make a difference. Kansas can go much much deeper than Memphis and the big men for Kansas are better than what Memphis has. The guard play for Memphis is outstanding. My prediction is Kansas by 11.

Coach Pants 04-07-2008 02:46 PM

Yeah whodey with the blocked mush.

whodey17 04-07-2008 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
We might be alright now that Whodey has weighed in. If we can somehow get King Glorious to say he likes Kansas I am bumping my bet back up.

Good lord...don't you have any new lines. And what exactly is your problem with me?

IrishofNDMan 04-07-2008 03:06 PM

I really don't see Memphis losing, good luck tonight Scavs and as long as Memphis plays like they have been you will be fine.

whodey17 04-07-2008 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by IrishofNDMan
I really don't see Memphis losing, good luck tonight Scavs and as long as Memphis plays like they have been you will be fine.

I also wish you luck Scavs. Be nice to see ya win. I have no rooting interest in this game at all so I might as well cheer you on.

whodey17 04-07-2008 03:33 PM

I tell you what--just ignore me and I will continue to ignore you and this board will be a much better place. Sound fair?

whodey17 04-07-2008 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
Nah I like it how it is.

Glad to see that you are stuck in 2nd grade. Oh well...there is just no hope for you.

SentToStud 04-07-2008 04:34 PM

The intelligentsia is definitely in full force on this one.

Coach Pants 04-07-2008 07:09 PM

Memphis -2
550/500

If I cover I'm rollin it to the Lady Vols -1.5

Cannon Shell 04-07-2008 07:23 PM

I like Kansas, not that that means anything


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