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cowgirlintexas 11-28-2007 05:22 PM

Cole Norman - DWI
 
I guess him killing a woman while under the influence back in Feb. was'nt enough to make him get clean.. Nor was breaking his own neck before that.:rolleyes: http://www.drf.com/news/article/90654.html

GPK 11-28-2007 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by cowgirlintexas
I guess him killing a woman while under the influence back in Feb. was'nt enough to make him get clean.. Nor was breaking his own neck before that.:rolleyes: http://www.drf.com/news/article/90654.html

that sure cured me..:D

Cannon Shell 11-28-2007 05:27 PM

Hope he has finally hit rock bottom...he obviously needs more help than he is getting.

cowgirlintexas 11-28-2007 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by GPK
that sure cured me..:D

Guy sounds like a complete idiot... Hard to believe people actually pay this guy to train there horses.. Guess we see where his $$'s going.

Cannon Shell 11-28-2007 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by cowgirlintexas
Guy sounds like a complete idiot... Hard to believe people actually pay this guy to train there horses.. Guess we see where his $$'s going.

People would pay a child molester to train for them if they won enough...

GPK 11-28-2007 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
Hope he has finally hit rock bottom...he obviously needs more help than he is getting.


Some people unfortunately hit rock bottom...and then start looking for a shovel to keep digging..

golfer 11-28-2007 05:56 PM

I guess taking away his drivers liscense wouldn't have made any sense???

mclem10011 11-28-2007 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by golfer
I guess taking away his drivers liscense wouldn't have made any sense???

That wouldn't have made any sense at all!:rolleyes:

SCUDSBROTHER 11-28-2007 07:01 PM

That visual (a row of mailboxes getting run over) belongs in a movie.In real life,people shouldn't have to put up with somebody doing that.Everybody has problems,but a decent citizen doesn't let the chronic become acute.

packerbacker7964 11-28-2007 10:07 PM

Not blowing my own horn but me and my friends have drank lots of time's with Co Co. To tell you the truth I never could tell how much the guy had drank. He acted the same after 10 beers as he did with 5 in him. Not saying what we were doing was right but your at L.A. Downs and it's 110 outside only one thing left to do. He really took a turn for the worse after that 4 wheeler wreck because Jorge took over most of the training of his stock. This gave Cole way to much time on his hands to do some things better not done behind the wheel of a atuomobile. Then after the DWI Jorge got almost all of his stock and left Norman with nothing to show for it. (not Jorge's fault) I hope he's finally figured out that being a high profile trainer only counts when people know who you.

Scav 11-28-2007 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by GPK
Some people unfortunately hit rock bottom...and then start looking for a shovel to keep digging..

or a bull dozer, whoever wants to try and find China fast enough, I am still looking, thought I got there but it was just California......

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Originally Posted by golfer
I guess taking away his drivers liscense wouldn't have made any sense???

This never works, people still drive. Lawyers get DWL's dropped all the time

I would really like to know the % of people that learn from the first time. I personally think if you get a DUI, it is three days in a minimum security jail. I think the % of 2nd time offenders would lower because I am guessing even minimum security is not fun.

Cannon Shell 11-28-2007 11:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Scav
or a bull dozer, whoever wants to try and find China fast enough, I am still looking, thought I got there but it was just California......



This never works, people still drive. Lawyers get DWL's dropped all the time

I would really like to know the % of people that learn from the first time. I personally think if you get a DUI, it is three days in a minimum security jail. I think the % of 2nd time offenders would lower because I am guessing even minimum security is not fun.

What does Wayne Lukas have to do with this?

Scav 11-28-2007 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
What does Wayne Lukas have to do with this?

nothing, I thought people would put DWL together with "Driving without a license"

I'm tired

Cannon Shell 11-28-2007 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Scav

This never works, people still drive. Lawyers get DWL's dropped all the time

I would really like to know the % of people that learn from the first time. I personally think if you get a DUI, it is three days in a minimum security jail. I think the % of 2nd time offenders would lower because I am guessing even minimum security is not fun.

I want to know the % of people without Alzheimers who get lost in their hometown despite NOT being under the influence?

Scav 11-28-2007 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
I want to know the % of people without Alzheimers who get lost in their hometown despite NOT being under the influence?

My hometown is Mount Prospect, IL.....I know about 95% of it. There is like 8 million people in Chicago and a whole lot of space, it wasn't like we were lost, we took a longer route to the destination.

Danzig 11-29-2007 07:09 AM

seems this guy has a tremendous problem. but until he decides it's a problem, and that he wants to fix it, no one can do a thing for him.
good luck to his wife and family.

Danzig 11-29-2007 07:10 AM

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Originally Posted by cowgirlintexas
I guess him killing a woman while under the influence back in Feb. was'nt enough to make him get clean.. Nor was breaking his own neck before that.:rolleyes: http://www.drf.com/news/article/90654.html

i would imagine it was the four wheeler wreck that brought painkillers into his life, and lead him to where he is now.

cowgirlintexas 11-29-2007 08:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Scav
nothing, I thought people would put DWL together with "Driving without a license"

I'm tired

thats funny... Never put the two together until I read that.. "Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
What does Wayne Lukas have to do with this?" Ya'll crack me up:D

deltagulf 11-29-2007 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Scav
My hometown is Mount Prospect, IL.....I know about 95% of it. There is like 8 million people in Chicago and a whole lot of space, it wasn't like we were lost, we took a longer route to the destination.


you took the senic route for your passengers.:D

Cannon Shell 11-29-2007 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by deltagulf
you took the senic route for your passengers.:D

It was not very scenic unless you like burnt out buildings and pan handlers

whodey17 04-04-2008 05:49 PM

I guess the jury recommends six years in prison and for Norman to pay a $5k fine.

cowgirlintexas 04-04-2008 05:53 PM

6 years.. Long time for him to sit and think...Will come out different man for sure.

Coach Pants 04-04-2008 05:55 PM

He's guessing. I'm guessing he won't serve more than 18 months.

Danzig 04-04-2008 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by golfer
I guess taking away his drivers liscense wouldn't have made any sense???

doesn't do much good. most just drive without.
read a few articles recently about some repeat offenders. one guy got busted for three different dui's in a weeks time...then another guy just got busted for the fourth time--apparently killing another man which had lead to his third arrest wasn't enough to teach him a lesson.

GPK 04-04-2008 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by cowgirlintexas
6 years.. Long time for him to sit and think...Will come out different man for sure.


I would like to think so....but can't always count on that happening.

Danzig 04-04-2008 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Coach Pants
He's guessing. I'm guessing he won't serve more than 18 months.

a family member of the victim thinks that norman might end up with just probation.

AeWingnut 04-04-2008 09:56 PM

I pass by the court house as I walk to work every morning. The other day I found a couple tickets

ticket 131745 -DUI and ticket 131747 -driving on a revoked license
don't know what ticket 131746 was.

I imagine this loser had spent the night in jail and was out the next day littering.

you can't get plates for a car without a license so you have to drive someone else's.

How do these people manage to find enablers. If you're a scum bum they line up around the block -

:mad:

SOREHOOF 04-04-2008 10:02 PM

you can't get plates for a car without a license so you have to drive someone else's.

:mad:[/quote]
You can in N.Y.

packerbacker7964 04-05-2008 02:39 PM

Jury finds Norman guilty
 
They found him to be guilty and it carries a 3-10 term. Judge to rule in the next few days.

Riot 04-05-2008 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by packerbacker7964
They found him to be guilty and it carries a 3-10 term. Judge to rule in the next few days.

Such a shame, to do such terrible damage to the lives of others, let alone your own.

ELA 04-05-2008 10:18 PM

I didn't know there was a jury. He plead guilty. I am not sure they had a jury sitting. Regardless, I read the sentencing guidelines -- he could be out in about a year to a year and a half all in.

The entire fiasco is a shame. It's a shame that someone can do such damage and hurt to others. Right or wrong, sickness or irresponsibility, you want to go out and screw up yourself or your own life -- your decision. Who gets to make the decision for the others -- the victims.

If he's hit rock bottom, well, that's what is needed.

Eric

Danzig 04-05-2008 11:52 PM

supposedly a six year sentence was recommended. he'd be out in a year.

Kasept 04-09-2008 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by whodey17
I guess the jury recommends six years in prison and for Norman to pay a $5k fine.

6 years it is..

http://www.drf.com/news/article/93556.html

Coach Pants 04-09-2008 11:12 AM


cal828 04-09-2008 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by cowgirlintexas
6 years.. Long time for him to sit and think...Will come out different man for sure.

Not sure how much sitting he will be doing. If he gets sentenced to Cummins Prison Farm(the "pea" farm as we call it here in Arkansas.), he might be out hoeing legumes everyday. Hoeing peas in 100 degree heat will definitely give a person religion.
I went down to Cummins on a field trip with my Criminology class when I was a mere babe in college (no I was not an inmate there !!). I'm sure it has improved some since those days, but I'm quite sure they still don't offer golf or tennis.

deltagulf 04-09-2008 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Scav
My hometown is Mount Prospect, IL.....I know about 95% of it. There is like 8 million people in Chicago and a whole lot of space, it wasn't like we were lost, we took a longer route to the destination.

as i say you took the senic route.


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