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pgardn 03-29-2008 07:05 PM

Cannon; Love UCLA
 
Watched this guy too much.
Great hands. Good vision.
Good passer. Big Body.
Superior instincts and sense of space.

Soft touch. Range.
Shot variety outsanding.
Slow, but quick moves.
He will not swat, but
his hands are so quick he
gets some blocks without jumping.

I know the NBA looks
more for the D. Howard type body
but I really think this guy is extremely
gifted as a real player.

Where is he rated on that list?

Coach Pants 03-29-2008 07:22 PM

Lots of BIG in that post.

More like the next Big Country.


Next.

pgardn 03-29-2008 07:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coach Pants
Lots of BIG in that post.

More like the next Big Country.


Next.

Big Country was much taller
and had nowhere close to the
skill level this kid has as a FRESHMAN.

The only good comparison is that they
are both white.

Coach Pants 03-29-2008 07:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pgardn
Big Country was much taller
and had nowhere close to the
skill level this kid has as a FRESHMAN.

The only good comparison is that they
are both white.

Ok then he's the next Adam Morrisson.

It's not happening, piss garden. Sorry, you were born in the wrong era.

pgardn 03-29-2008 07:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coach Pants
Ok then he's the next Adam Morrisson.

It's not happening, piss garden. Sorry, you were born in the wrong era.

OK coach pe nis.
Whats not happening?

Should not dive to that level.
My apologies.
I like the guys hands and skill
level. He is not a super star
but I love this type of player
as a complement to the athletic
power forwards.
He is better than any "center"
the Spurs have right now, I know
that.

Coach Pants 03-29-2008 08:14 PM

If you love him so much why don't you blow him?

pgardn 03-29-2008 08:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coach Pants
If you love him so much why don't you blow him?

Excellent retort.

Dipping deep into
that big bag of witty
responses Gomer.

Sheesh.

SCUDSBROTHER 03-29-2008 08:25 PM

So,how many years will UCLA have him?

Coach Pants 03-29-2008 08:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pgardn
Excellent retort.

Dipping deep into
that big bag of witty
responses Gomer.

Sheesh.

If you were a tenth as smart as you thought you were you wouldn't be a physics teacher and would have the capability of doing what I do at this moment, which is wagering on horses.

So excuse me if I don't have the time to do poems and play on words with you, queerbait.

pgardn 03-29-2008 08:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coach Pants
If you were a tenth as smart as you thought you were you wouldn't be a physics teacher and would have the capability of doing what I do at this moment, which is wagering on horses.

So excuse me if I don't have the time to do poems and play on words with you, queerbait.

You dont have time?
Why did you even respond?
Ya little foul mouthed punk.

Wagering and losing based on
your response.

The capability of what you are doing...LOL!
You are making great leaps in the art
of wagering. A polite applause please.

What a Frggn parasite.

SCUDSBROTHER 03-29-2008 08:46 PM

We would all be considered brilliant if we moved to the Antonio.They must have 15-20 Walmarts in that area alone.

SCUDSBROTHER 03-29-2008 08:47 PM

How many years he staying at UCLA?

Cannon Shell 03-29-2008 08:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pgardn
Watched this guy too much.
Great hands. Good vision.
Good passer. Big Body.
Superior instincts and sense of space.

Soft touch. Range.
Shot variety outsanding.
Slow, but quick moves.
He will not swat, but
his hands are so quick he
gets some blocks without jumping.

I know the NBA looks
more for the D. Howard type body
but I really think this guy is extremely
gifted as a real player.

Where is he rated on that list?

Ranked 12th. Kind of soft bodied, needs to get in NBA shape, get quicker. Kind of reminds me of Bill Laimbeer.

Cannon Shell 03-29-2008 08:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER
How many years he staying at UCLA?

maybe 1 more? He should leave if they think he is a lottery pick.

Coach Pants 03-29-2008 08:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pgardn
You dont have time?
Why did you even respond?
Ya little foul mouthed punk.

Wagering and losing based on
your response.

The capability of what you are doing...LOL!
You are making great leaps in the art
of wagering. A polite applause please.

What a Frggn parasite.

Maybe if I was a future land monster (Love) playing basketball you'd want to suck my cock?

pgardn 03-29-2008 09:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
Ranked 12th. Kind of soft bodied, needs to get in NBA shape, get quicker. Kind of reminds me of Bill Laimbeer.

Then he needs to get dirty.

He has got that big barrell chest.
But you can see by his arms
he can hit the weight room.

I really like his hands
and skill level.

pgardn 03-29-2008 09:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER
We would all be considered brilliant if we moved to the Antonio.They must have 15-20 Walmarts in that area alone.

I completely dont get it.

Walmarts do well in San Antonio
because this is not a well-to-do city.
Because the Republicans drink the blood
of the poor? Right? So you actually feel
sorry for those that have to shop there... yes?

otisotisotis 03-29-2008 09:08 PM

pants must be an x man????

Coach Pants 03-29-2008 09:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by otisotisotis
pants must be an x man????

No. I'm not a fan of any team in the tournament. I just know an overrated player when I see one. He does have teammates and they are overall a good group.

He'll be terrible in the pros.

pgardn 03-29-2008 09:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
maybe 1 more? He should leave if they think he is a lottery pick.

Please dont tell me the Blind still have Jordan on
ATM rated Higher?

Cannon Shell 03-29-2008 09:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pgardn
Please dont tell me the Blind still have Jordan on
ATM rated Higher?

He is 10th I think. He is 7 feet tall and a really good athlete. Kind of raw but may develop into a Tyson Chandler type.

pgardn 03-29-2008 09:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
He is 10th I think. He is 7 feet tall and a really good athlete. Kind of raw but may develop into a Tyson Chandler type.

KIND of?
He is sushi raw.
He has not been born yet raw.

Holy crap.
No hands.
No basketball sense.
No pivot moves, no offensive skills whatsoever.
I watched him multiple times this year.

Reclaimation, reclaimation.
He will be a true project.

Fransisco Elson is a better athlete
thatn Jordan and he is just flat out
a bad basketball player that happens to
be an athlete.

Is Mel Kuiper doing this rating also?

SCUDSBROTHER 03-29-2008 09:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pgardn
I completely dont get it.

Walmarts do well in San Antonio
because this is not a well-to-do city.
Because the Republicans drink the blood
of the poor? Right? So you actually feel
sorry for those that have to shop there... yes?

Walmarts do well there,because it is not a high-end town.It's a low-end town.

pgardn 03-29-2008 09:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER
Walmarts do well there,because it is not a high-end town.It's a low-end town.

Its low end because 60% of the city is Hispanic
and the Republicans suck their blood? right?
Its a democratic town so its all stupid...

SCUDSBROTHER 03-29-2008 09:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pgardn
Its low end because 60% of the city is Hispanic
and the Republicans suck their blood? right?
Its a democratic town so its all stupid...

You're an intellectual superstar there.See,he said you weren't that smart,but I know you are smart there.

pgardn 03-29-2008 09:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER
You're an intellectual superstar there.See,he said you weren't that smart,but I know you are smart there.

Never claimed to be smart,
whatever the hell that is.
Just curious.

Where is the outrage?
The Republicans destroyed the city?

SCUDSBROTHER 03-29-2008 10:01 PM

Is there a major University there?

pgardn 03-29-2008 10:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER
Is there a major University there?

No.
All just a bunch of dumb Mexican democrats.

UTSA.
Bout 35,000 kids.
Not on the level of UT in Austin(got to be top 7%)
or blast the SAT.

Best school in the city is Trinity University
by far. A very good private school but very expensive.
Just for the rich white Republican kids from California
that can afford it.

pgardn 03-29-2008 10:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER
Is there a major University there?

We dont have anything on the level of Chico State if thats what you mean.
Or a great acting school like UCLA.

SCUDSBROTHER 03-29-2008 10:09 PM

Maybe they have a Walmart University there to train at.

Cannon Shell 03-29-2008 10:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pgardn
KIND of?
He is sushi raw.
He has not been born yet raw.

Holy crap.
No hands.
No basketball sense.
No pivot moves, no offensive skills whatsoever.
I watched him multiple times this year.

Reclaimation, reclaimation.
He will be a true project.

Fransisco Elson is a better athlete
thatn Jordan and he is just flat out
a bad basketball player that happens to
be an athlete.

Is Mel Kuiper doing this rating also?

He is 19 and 7 feet 260. He can run and jump. You can teach guys how to play basketball but there are very few with the physical tools that he has. I have no idea if he will work hard enough to become a good NBA player or just be a second stringer but the guy has the physical parts.

SCUDSBROTHER 03-29-2008 10:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pgardn
We dont have anything on the level of Chico State if thats what you mean.
Or a great acting school like UCLA.

Well,I was just wondering if I missed some well-known University
in the town. Where is Texas A&M?

SCUDSBROTHER 03-29-2008 10:15 PM

You've Always Got Retama.

pgardn 03-29-2008 10:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
He is 19 and 7 feet 260. He can run and jump. You can teach guys how to play basketball but there are very few with the physical tools that he has. I have no idea if he will work hard enough to become a good NBA player or just be a second stringer but the guy has the physical parts.

Even if he does work hard I have my doubts.
He was absolutely awful. Its not like he just started
playing. He looks like some foreign kid that they saved
from being eaten who has never played.


But then again so
was Hakeem his freshman year at Houston.
But he had never played before.
And there was some basic instinct and
he moved his feet very well (soccer in Nigeria I think).

I think its money down the tube with Jordan if he comes
out this raw. He will totally lose confidence, even if he steps
on a developmental league court at this time.

pgardn 03-29-2008 10:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER
You've Always Got Retama.

You would love Retama.
Not for the racing.

For the simulcasting.
Got a machine to myself and every track in
the country on TV. For a whopping 2 bucks.
I hear these tales of trashy OTB's in NY and
I realize I have my own heaven.

My in-laws that live in LA where shocked at
the facility for wagering (they have since moved back).
Went to Hollywood upon a visit
and honestly in was the biggest trashiest dump
I have been to. Maybe its cleaned up.

Guess I should have gone to Santa Anita when
they had all those 4 horse fields.

ATM is in a town called Bryan. And thats about
all there is. Austin would be equivalent to California.
Keep Austin Weird T-shirts everywhere. Very liberal town.

And look up Trinity University in San Antonio. Its always rated
in the top 20 small private schools. Never would have accepted me,
my daugher, but not me.

SCUDSBROTHER 03-29-2008 10:57 PM

HOLLYWOOD PARK is never gunna be nice. Atleast they have an IN-N-OUT Burger next door now...I live in the hills between HWD PARK and the 10 FREEWAY.Actually it's a couple blocks north of the Inglewood City limits,but there are no buildings blocking my view of the Pacific Ocean (about 5-6 miles away.)Here,I will show ya...

http://www.flickr.com/photos/18639725@N07/2373087736/

Dodgers playing in Coliseum tonite (100k people...looks weird.)

Mortimer 03-30-2008 08:06 AM

That's either one of Saturns rings or a big glob of medicated goo.

pgardn 03-30-2008 09:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER
HOLLYWOOD PARK is never gunna be nice. Atleast they have an IN-N-OUT Burger next door now...I live in the hills between HWD PARK and the 10 FREEWAY.Actually it's a couple blocks north of the Inglewood City limits,but there are no buildings blocking my view of the Pacific Ocean (about 5-6 miles away.)Here,I will show ya...

http://www.flickr.com/photos/18639725@N07/2373087736/

Dodgers playing in Coliseum tonite (100k people...looks weird.)

Very nice.

I loved LA along the coastline last I visited.
Palos Verdes overlooking the Pacific.
The temperature in the summer was incredible.
Everyone was exercising. I got to run along the
strand.
Water is way damn cold though.

But once you start moving inshore. Temp changes,
and so does the city.

2Hot4TV 03-30-2008 10:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
maybe 1 more? He should leave if they think he is a lottery pick.

Doesn't UCLA already have daily pick up game filled with former stars that left early and flopped? Love needs to stay and increase his first round value after his 4th year and a degree.

pgardn 03-30-2008 11:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2Hot4TV
Doesn't UCLA already have daily pick up game filled with former stars that left early and flopped? Love needs to stay and increase his first round value after his 4th year and a degree.

All schools have pick up games with ex-Iwannabeapros playing.

With Love I think you got a guy that is what you see is
what you get. Because he is not athletic, he does not
have a tremendous upside (such as a guy like Jordan at ATM
might have).

So staying... I dont know how much it helps him. I think the question
is this a weak year for Centers. I dont know how many foreign guys
are being looked at. If Hibert at Georgetown is considered the gold
standard (which I hope he is not), then Love would be a lottery pick. I really dont know what kind of "Center" year this is.

What is clear to me is that you dont find guys that
large with that kind of basketball skill level. He is smart
in so many ways on the court that a lot of what he does
lack, jumping, speed, he makes up for.

I can only speak my opinion for one pro team. Imo the
Spurs would take him in a heartbeat. As I stated earlier, he
is better than any "Center" they have now. The only question
would be if he could handle the very quick switching defense
one particular pro team requires. I also think he is better than
Splitter who will be with the Spurs most likely next year.

Beasely is obviously the first pick in the draft unless some team
has found a really good foreign player.


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