Chosen One 4 MVP Fans
 

Boy has he been hot....takes silly 3's when he's already a lousy 3 point shot....continues to get his pocket picked while hot dogging.....and love that center foul throw shooting pct.



He da man!!

I love the loud microphones on the backboard at the Gund.It's perfect for James:




DOINK!!


BONK!!


BOING!!



THUD!

Oh yes...I was hoping to lure in Hubey Brown and Jack Ramsey.

I stand corrected.

That would be DR Jack Ramsey

Well excuuuuse moi.

In his last 3 games he is shooting 46% from the field, 42% from the 3 pt line, 75% from the free throw line. Avg 34 pts, 10.6 boards and 7.3 assists. His team is 2-1 in those 3 games.

Kobe in his last 3 games is shooting 51% from the field, 42% from the 3 pt line, 88% from the free throw line. Avg 25 pts, 5.3 boards and 5 assists. His team is 2-1 in those 3 games.

Uh...Mr. 3 Game Snippet Reporter....did I say anything about Kobey Friggin' Bryant?


I only mentioned the easy mark for pick pockets and his concommitant propensity to clang iron.....and other things I have yet to touch.









Get lost.

Ummm. Season numbers are 49 percent from the field and 32 percent from 3 point line. Neither one hideous in my estimation. If he never launched a single 3 pointer he would be pretty much ineffective as no one would go near him. It's been a tough road to hoe for the Cavs this year missing much of his mediocre teammates all year. With his full complement of average complementary players it helps the team. My goodness just last night Z, Wallace and Gibson not in uniform. That's why he's my choice for MVP...no matter who is rolling with him out there, they have a shot to win as long as he steps on the floor. For the team to be 9 games over .500 this season while being outscored as a team speaks volumes to his remarkable late game play all season long. Why just last night down 17 in the 1st quarter...19 in the second half and had a legit shot to win. He was on the floor. They are still 37-22 when he is in uniform. That ain't shabby. He is simply not a bad shooter at all. Best in the league??? Of course not...not even close. But certainly not bad at all.

I won't hold my breath for any reply to this. I think we've had this argument 75 times over and I always lose. :D

Less than 32% says he shouldn't be hoisting 3's as much as he does....less than 32% says he stinks at that. Under 72% at the f.t. line. Way down in the league rankings at both. NUMBER 7 in turnovers per game.


An easy mark for any slick defender.


See how far the "great one" takes them with no halfway legitimate center.

ummm...they've been winning the majority of their games since Zs injury. OF course they're down to Varejao and Smith now for "bigs". 32 percent does not say he stinks. It says he is slightly below average. Big difference there. 72 percent at the free throw line is not good. AGain...it is not horrific however. He should be over 75 percent without question at the free throw line. I have no argument with that. His turnovers per game are fine with me. To consider him an easy mark for any defender is simplistic. Let's look at the company he's keeping in turnovers per game...1. Dwayne Wade 2. Steve Nash 3. Deron Williams 4. Jason Kidd 5. Carmelo Anthony 6. Kobe Bryant 7. LeBron. (LeBron actually slid above Kobe last night!).

Ok...yes those 7 all easy marks for slick defenders. You are clowning too much here. Most are point guards....he handles the ball more than Wade/Anthony and Bryant and turns it over less than them. ASsist to turnover ratio much higher than the other non point guards there. Let's look at that number...for non point guards...

1. Tayshaun Prince 2. Charlie Bell 3. DeShawn Stevenson 4. Tracy McGrady 5. Richard Hamilton 6. Vince Carter 7. LeBron

Very selective I think you are.

Comparing the two leading candidated for the MVP is all. The measure up pretty well. However, McGrady is making a strong case as well.

Oh give me a fucl<in' break already will ya?


Why dont you tell everyone what you see..since you say you watch the Cavs all the time. This guy loses possession too much over his hotdogging....and he hotdogs at the worst time in the game. Why don't you tell everyone how he had a great hand in last nights loss? First....he didn't feel like playing defense ( as per usual)or most of the first half....like the rest of the team. Then when they are right back at the Nets' heels...he launches a ridiculous 3......clunk.


Then he goes back to the dribble-dribble hotdog act and-------swipe!


For an MVP he sure is a lousy 3 point and f.t. shooter....and he gives away the ball too much....needlessly.... because it usually is due to hotdogging.

He is what he is........not what all of you blind fans adore him into being.

Will you shut up already?

You put up your stuff, I put up mine. He simply has a tremendous assist to turnover ratio for a non point guard. End of story. He is what he is...the best player in the game. It is not being blind. I never once have called him a perfect player. Just the best player. The perfect player has yet to be created and never will. If perfection is your expectation of him, yes, you will always be disappointed by James. Always.

League fg percentage...45.5...LeBron 48.6
League 3 pt percentage 35.9...LeBron 31.7
League ft percentage 75.5...LeBron 71.6.

If being 4 percent under league averages makes him "lousy"...being over 3 percent over the league fg percentage average must make him about the "best" shooter out there or something??

You resort to hyperbole and dramatics in these arguments and make no sense. I have never claimed him a great 3 point shooter or ft shooter. He is not lousy by any stretch however. I mean he plays 45 minutes last night and you choose 2 plays. Fine. As I said, he will never satisfy you as a player. I'll further infuriate you. IN my opinion he is the finest professional athlete to play in the city of Cleveland since Jim Brown.

I think your own figures just knocked him out of best player in the league status......best athlete-yes. Player-no.


Hotdog-yes....most enamored with himself-yes.

Beginning of story---something like 16 players have a better ratio.


Like you yourself have said....he plays more point...even now...than forward.

Ok, he's one of the top 20 players in the league perhaps?? Can you at least give me that??

I gave out two examples that happened within 60 seconds...in crunch time.

There are many more ,but people like you choose to ignore them.James plays for himself....number one...first and formost. Himself. It doesn't take a lot of observation to see that. You're so blind you don't.....but not to worry---there are many like you. Fortunately Livingstone of the Plain Dealer is not one of them although his voice doesn't seem to reach most of you "witnesses."

No about 40 players do. I was talking non point guards. Read through what I say.

Top 20....yes.

Kobe 3 rings
LeBaron 0 rings

He simply has a tremendous assist to turnover ratio for a non point guard. End of story.

I would call him a point guard for most of any game...as you know.


I did read what you said.

How do they ever win then?? It is not all due to LeBron but in my over 40 year lifetime I have seen Cleveland teams play in a championship 3 times...the INdians twice and the Cavs last year. You can harp and harp all you want. The reason they were there was more due to LeBron than Eric Snow and Drew Gooden. I will go to my grave believing he is the person on the team most responsible for their recent success...moreso than even Donyell Marshall incredibel as that may seem to be to you. I never stated he was perfect...that is what you expect him to be. He will never be that. He is the best player ever to put on a Cav uniform however.

I have 6 rings. I'm still not a better player than LeBron.

Shaq and Kobe 3 rings---Kobe by himself 0 rings. And Kobe has been in the league for 12 years (this is his 12th) and LeBron has been in the league 4 years (this is his 4th).

And Greg Kite has way more rings than Barkley and Ewing combined...that is the really only way to judge the talent of a player. Anyone who would want Ewing at center over the ring adorned Greg Kite is silly.

I don't disagree with that.





He gets overhyped for what he is,though.

But he doesn't do it alone...and if he was more of a team player the Cavs would be better.

That's the NBA and their shills trying to make fans think he is a team player,but he's not.

What is he?

James for his brief career is shooting 32% from the 3 pt line, 46.7% from the field and 73% from the line. The greatest ever Michael Jordan shot 32% from the 3 pt line for his career, 49% from the field and 83% from the line. Comparable numbers. Now comparing the 2 is absurd so numbers dont tell the entire story. Now dont forget how James beat Detroit all by himself last year in the ECF. And for every time you can come up with an example of how James lost the game, I can come up with 2 examples how he won a game.

He's an entirely selfabsorbed person who is a great athlete most concerned with triple doubles and being the mvp and the greatest than anything else.

He's a hotdog who won't blink an eye when it comes to telling everyone how great he is ,but will throw up the doggie fence when criticized. If you don't hear what he says and how he says it and don't see him play most everyday then you will be swallowed by the hype machine that blinds from the truth.

I ask you again...how on earth did they get to the finals with such a clown as him last year?? I"ll tell you what I saw last year...in the conference finals this guy was completely eviscerated by the press and the minions spewing on his game 1 and 2 performances in the Palace. They ripped him to shreds for passing to a wide open Marshall in game 1...then ripped him to shreds for missing the shot at the end of game 2. I didn't see a doggie fence. I saw games 3 through 6.

The problem is people like you---again.

It seems to me there were a few more players on the court in that Detroit series than just him....it also is painfully obvious that Jordan was a much better player than James.I will give you some credit as most of the blind don't think James ever helps lose a game.


Your 2:1 story doesn't impress me....it only supports what I said....great athlete who is not the best player.

"Entirely self-absorbed" So I guess you know him personally. What are you basing this on? Is this your opinion of him from what you see on the court? Can you provide some examples of off the court behavior that signals that he is a self-absorbed person? And can you give a quote from him where he states he is great. I have watched almost every game of his either in person or on TV. I do not see this. I think he is a good player and one of the top 5 players in the league. I think he has tons to learn about the game and tons to improve on. But remember, the kid is 23 - turned 23 Dec 30th.

People like you are the problem. People who do no understand the NBA game. People like you that do not understand the maturation process of a NBA player. Funny how you say that there are more players on the court when the Cavs win but only James is on the court when they lose. You cant have it both ways kiddo.

I said he is OVERRATED.........and how did a superstar like him get to the finals with a bunch of clowns around him? Such a horrible team.


Ya...so where was Mr. World against San Antonio?

He ,to this day, does not take kindly to ANY kind of crticism.....you don't know what he's about. You think you do...but you don't.

I know nothing about James other than what I see on TV. What is he about? The self-absorption argument is ridiculous. All great athletes are...that is why they are great. Tiger isn't?? Jordan wasn't?? Kobe?? Pete rose?? bonds?? Ruth??

I never called them a horrible team. You said he doesn't take kindly to criticism?? Good. I saw him eviscerated in games 1 and 2 in the Palace last year...I'm quite glad he didn't take kindly to it. I saw games 3 thorugh 6.

How many times exactly have you spoken to him?? I am sure he is self absorbed. AS I said most greats are.

LeBron is the reason they lost the finals. He was horrible. They may have won the series if he was on the bench.

Oh fucl< 23...they said the same thing when he was 19,20,21 and 22. I suppose your mimicing mouth wil be in unison with the others when he's 34.

Here's what I base it on ...numbskull. He always watches the scoreboard to see where his triple double stands.Here's just ONE case in point. ...it's not that he looks for the score. He was one rebound shy earlier this year of a triple double. With about 30 seconds to go the other team was at the line for the 2nd shot...they missed. James comes from the other side to grab the rebound almost knocking a stunned Gooden on his can.

Off the court....just a day or so ago he said even he was stunned at what he had accomplished over the last 4 games..it was such a great feat. That's him saying that......not that the team played well---it was that HE played great. He almost came in the newspapapers over his 51 against the Knicks. I suppose you didn't read any of that?


Many times he has trashed players like Z and Gooden right on the court ..I saw it. Now if he didn't make any boneheaded plays it still would not be fine....but he does.,,,but he can't take criticism.


You're a true fool. Go suck his joint if you're so radio ga-ga over him.