The Friend's Lake Two Year Olds Look Pretty Good
 

I have seen at least 4 different Friend's Lake Two Year Olds that look like they can run. I don't know if any of them are stars but they definitely look like runners. I wasn't a huge fan of Friend's Lake as a racehorse but I'm liking what I'm seeing so far from his offspring.
I finally saw a nice Pleasantly Perfect Two Year Old. There is a PP filly at Barrett's who looks like she can run. She is the first decent PP that I've seen.

Same thing I said, Rupert. Hip 33 from last month's two year old in training sale in Ocala was a very nice looking horse. He went for 450k to Padua.

Check him out:

http://www.obssales.com/febpreview/

Also, let me know what you think of hip 93 (an Indian Charlie colt purchased for West Point.)

Yes, I remember that horse. He worked really well. His knee action was slightly high. He actually moved a little like Barbaro.

Yeah, he did a little bit. Nice looking colt... looked like a real runner.

Heyyyy. You gonna have to give the PP's alittle while to mature. I am just glad that alot of them are being kept by there breeders, that way they will be given the time to mature. I just love him, as my screename shows!! :D

[quote=PPerfectfan]Pleasantly Perfect was a great racehorse. I was a fan of his. I don't blame you for being a big PP fan.

450k for a friends lake............. does not make much sense to me.

looks like 2009 (or was that a yearling, which would be 2010) is the year we'll have a triple crown winner.

Who's the dam, what does it look like, how fast did it work? These are also factors in how much the horse goes for at a 2yo in training sale. Makes more sense than $16 million for a Forestry, anyway.

how surprising.

Speaking of 16 million horses has anyone heard how "he who must remain nameless" is taking to being a man on the prowl??

What do the Smarty Jones babies look like? Anyone seen any? Are'nt they due to start this year?

They haven't been setting the track on fire at the 2yo sales.

And speaking of scorched earth - William Tecumseh Sherman was far too kind to those who commited treason if you ask me.

if i remember correctly friends lake won 1 meaningful race in his career, and his breeding is not very good, i dont have pp's but i am pretty sure. 450k seems like a lot, what is his stud fee ? cant be more then 15k

The horse in question sold for $140K as a yearling.

He obviously was impressive in his preview and has moved forward the last six months.

How is it so hard to figure out why a Friends Lake is selling for $450k? He was a GI winner by a GI winner out of a GI winner. Doesn't seem entirely unlikely to me.

15K is his fee. The owner of American Thoroughbred Review threw a fit over his stud fee back in 2005:

http://thoroughbredreview.com/FriendsLake3.htm

Not to over simplify it too much, but think of it this way - the horse sells for $140K six months ago because of his breeding, confirmation, and how he vets.

Last month - he gets entered in a 2yo sale. He flashes an impressive physique and works a furlong in 10 seconds flat ... showing excellent raw speed for a horse bred to get a distance of ground. He sells for 450K.

Had the same horse worked his furlong in 11 flat and not moved well in the process - he'd have most likely been A.) scratched from the sale. or B.) sold or RNA'd for about half of what he sold for as a yearling.

I don't disagree with you in the least. I'm just saying, in the grand scheme of things, is it really so unbelievable that a Friends Lake would sell for $450k? I would suggest it is not.

Zayat stables bought a Friends Lake yearling for $600K at Keeneland September last year.

The $140K yearling turned $450K 2yo buy that is talked about in this thread was only the 6th most expensive Friend's Lake yearling of 64 offered at public auction.

I agree with Rupert that his first crop are showing significantly more speed than what would be expected from them during these sales drills.

PG
For a socalled breeding expert you seem to be off the mark on Friends Lakes breeding. He is by AP Indy, the premier sire in American racing. He is out of Antespend who won 3 grade 1's and over 1 million dollars on the track. She has produced 3 foals of running age, one is FL, a grade 1 winner and another is Seeking the Ante who is a Grade 2 winner. Antespends dam, Auspiciante, was also a multiple grade 1 winner and graded stakes producer.

Friends Lake is the best looking stallion at Airdrie (IMO) is very well balanced and well made especially for a son of AP Indy. I would think that he has at least as good a chance as Proud Citizen or Harlans Holiday, both of which are Airdrie success stories with 1st crops as 3 year olds.

I believe Friend's Lake was a homebred. How much do you think he would have sold for at public auction Chuck?

I don't know Cannon....

I'm pretty well aware of the positives about Friends Lake myself - and I still expected him to suck as a stallion.

He was an awful race horse. I have no idea where the speed in these drills are coming from with his babies.

He was no superstar but there is more than meets the eye concerning his handling.

Assuming that he looked as good as a yearling, 1 million easy.

I was not high on him initially but he has thrown nice horses who seem to have a lot more speed than he did.

He has an unraced half brother by Storm Cat named Rainmaker - stands for $1,500 in Louisianna.

Rainmaker actually had a filly sell for $77K, the sales topper at a Texas yearling sale.

The Cuvee's look pretty damn fast - but they certainly figured to be nothing if not fast.

FWIW I liked a lot of the Friends Lake yearlings that I looked at last fall....but I wasn't a fan of the horse, so didn't give them much credit.

I don't follow 2YO sales much...but will be very interested in how hip 148 sells. He was a classy, smart, good-looking yearling, reminded me a lot of his brother.

also have a mild interest in hip 97 just because her 2nd dam is by the sire of my horse:o

Good luck.

may i recommend pedigree query dot com?

Why yes, you may indeed. This guy is pretty funny, is he not? :D

i know i laughed when he said he liked scuds.

I believe I watched this same filly work a furlong in 10 flat at OBS March.

It's bad enough the Friend's Lake's are working fast - but his blacksheep brother is even getting fast ones.

Yea his dam has been a really frog generator... dude do a little research

Mr J has to be tickled to death.. The horse was pretty much a Indy plotter..Didn't Mig win the Coalition with Seeking the Ante?

Freddy, what in the hell race are you talking about?

I'm hoping you mean the Cotillion Stakes (which is now a $750K stake by the way) .... but Seeking The Ante never won that.

I always thought the Cotillion was named after some famous old horse or broodmare.... turns out ....

"In the United States, Cotillion has become training that children and young adults attend to learn manners and proper social behavior in the context of formal dance. The participants dress up in formal attire and some cotillions emphasize the use of white gloves. Modern day Cotillion takes the form of classes and parties."

Ah, I'm sure Freddy and I and a few others missed out on those.

More importantly, they should rename that race The Coaliton.

Same difference leave me alone got crushed last nite at Poker played till 4am my son is sick and I had to take him to Dr this morning at 9am.. He probably caught your disease from touching my cell.

BTW I think??? I remember her race Mig went down to philly Park to race her it was a crappy field and I think it was in the slop.. She was no big deal either.. Mr. Broman I think bred her to SCat... Now that is a great cross Seeking to S'cat go see how many quality horses that cross has produced

I feel your pain.