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wiphan 03-04-2008 08:48 AM

Favre retires
 
It appears official. Favre hangs it up. Truely a great quaterback and a joy to watch play the game. Thanks for all the memories. The Packers will never be the same witout #4.

declansharbor 03-04-2008 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by wiphan
It appears official. Favre hangs it up. Truely a great quaterback and a joy to watch play the game. Thanks for all the memories. The Packers will never be the same witout #4.

Talk about memories, 4th and 26 game. I was there. A game that was handed to the Birds by one of Favre's signature toss up interceptions. Much obliged.

Here, here, to a storied career!! One of the all time greats hangs it up

Coach Pants 03-04-2008 09:04 AM



RIP

MaTH716 03-04-2008 09:07 AM

Wow , I am suprised. They were maybe one fumble recovery away from going to the super bowl. With that team, I really thought he was going to come back for one more season. Wip is right, it will be a little strange watching the Pack without #4.

wiphan 03-04-2008 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by declansharbor
Talk about memories, 4th and 26 game. I was there. A game that was handed to the Birds by one of Favre's signature toss up interceptions. Much obliged.

Here, here, to a storied career!! One of the all time greats hangs it up

Too bad the birds couldn't take advantage of the situation and actually win a superbowl.

whodey17 03-04-2008 09:12 AM

I was at the game against the Bengals when Farve made his NFL debut. I have enjoyed watching him play for 17 seasons. My fav memory of his is when he played on Monday night against the Raiders after his father passed away.

Now the NFC north really sucks now. Pack loses Farve and I guess Rodgers gets the job, Chicago has no receivers and no QB, Lions look decent, and Minnesota looks like the team to beat. But, none of those teams really scare anyone.

GBBob 03-04-2008 09:12 AM

I was at his first game and it's amazing all the crap that has happened in my life since then. It really puts into perspective how long he played and how long the streak really was.

Nothing against Aikman, Montana or other greats, but I really think Favre did more with less overall talent over the years than any QB in history.

GBBob 03-04-2008 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by whodey17
I was at the game against the Bengals when Farve made his NFL debut. I have enjoyed watching him play for 17 seasons. My fav memory of his is when he played on Monday night against the Raiders after his father passed away.

Now the NFC north really sucks now. Pack loses Farve and I guess Rodgers gets the job, Chicago has no receivers and no QB, Lions look decent, and Minnesota looks like the team to beat. But, none of those teams really scare anyone.

Five fave Favre memories:

5) Scramble into endzone to make playoffs against Atlanta in last game ever at County Stadium

4) Halloween Monsoon against Bears at Soldier Field

3) Monday Night against Raiders

2)Off balance bomb to Sterling Sharpe to beat Lions in Playoff game in '94(?) at SilverDome.

1) Coach Pants Pic...makes me really feel old

whodey17 03-04-2008 09:18 AM

Here is a nice little video about Farve's debut against the Bengals. O.J, Costas, and Buddy Ryan.

http://sports.aol.com/fanhouse/2008/...re-as-green-b/

Scav 03-04-2008 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by GBBob
4) Halloween Monsoon against Bears at Soldier Field

3) Monday Night against Raiders

Both these games affected me. I was at the Monsoon game, it was awesome. I loved it

The MNF game had serious fantasy implications. I don't remember exactly the ordeal, but I know I had a huge lead, one where he needed 4TD's and a specific yardage, and he got the TD's and yardage by 1 friggin yard.

On a side note, I do take pleasure in the Bears absolutely smoking Favre in the Lovie era.

As a Bears fan, I can't stand him, and all the love, Madden will have zero to talk about now, but as a football fan, he was pretty darn good and his enthusiam is why people like sports

Crown@club 03-04-2008 10:02 AM

Title should be
"Favre Has No Moss, Set to Retire"

wiphan 03-04-2008 10:10 AM

My top 5 Favre moments

5) Start of it all against the Bengals and the TD pass to Kitrick Taylor

4) Raiders Monday night game

3) Vikings game in 99 facing 4th and 1 with no timeouts and limited time he throws a TD to Bradford to win 23-20 (also could use the Freeman catch on the Farve bomb on Monday night to beat the wikings in OT in 2000)

2) Farve playing with a sprained ankle against the bears in 1995 and throws 5 TD's to win the game including a 99 yard TD pass to Robert Brooks

1) Superbowl XXXI- the audible he calls and throws a TD to Andre Rison in his 1st throw of the game setting the tone for Farve's only Superbowl win

GBBob 03-04-2008 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by GBBob
Five fave Favre memories:

5) Scramble into endzone to make playoffs against Atlanta in last game ever at County Stadium

4) Halloween Monsoon against Bears at Soldier Field

3) Monday Night against Raiders

2)Off balance bomb to Sterling Sharpe to beat Lions in Playoff game in '94(?) at SilverDome.

1) Coach Pants Pic...makes me really feel old

and to keep it fair, the worse Favre moments

5) 5 (at least) INT Game against Rams in '03 playoffs

4) Any pre-1998 game in the Metrodome

3) 4 and 26 INT

2) Giants OT INT

1) Today

wiphan 03-04-2008 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by GBBob
and to keep it fair, the worse Favre moments

5) 5 (at least) INT Game against Rams in '03 playoffs

4) Any pre-1998 game in the Metrodome

3) 4 and 26 INT

2) Giants OT INT

1) Today

Couldn't agree more.

GBBob 03-04-2008 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Cardus
And handing the sack record to Strahan.

lol..i was there that day..he slipped

brianwspencer 03-04-2008 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by GBBob
and to keep it fair, the worse Favre moments

5) 5 (at least) INT Game against Rams in '03 playoffs

4) Any pre-1998 game in the Metrodome

3) 4 and 26 INT

2) Giants OT INT

1) Today

Don't forget pretty much any game against the Bears in the last few years.

I agree with Scav though -- I certainly have something close to zero love for the guy, being a serious homer for the Bears, but I at least appreciate what he did for the sport and for those who liked him.

That said, this should just make for some even more fun Bears/Packers games in the coming year or two, as now I can't even find one reason the Packers MIGHT beat the Bears.

GBBob 03-04-2008 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by brianwspencer
Don't forget pretty much any game against the Bears in the last few years.

I agree with Scav though -- I certainly have something close to zero love for the guy, being a serious homer for the Bears, but I at least appreciate what he did for the sport and for those who liked him.

That said, this should just make for some even more fun Bears/Packers games in the coming year or two, as now I can't even find one reason the Packers MIGHT beat the Bears.

umm..besides the fact the Bears suck?

Coach Pants 03-04-2008 11:20 AM

It's obvious Brian doesn't keep up with free agency.

hoovesupsideyourhead 03-04-2008 11:41 AM

breaks my hart...king of the air ball ..

wiphan 03-04-2008 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by brianwspencer
Don't forget pretty much any game against the Bears in the last few years.

I agree with Scav though -- I certainly have something close to zero love for the guy, being a serious homer for the Bears, but I at least appreciate what he did for the sport and for those who liked him.

That said, this should just make for some even more fun Bears/Packers games in the coming year or two, as now I can't even find one reason the Packers MIGHT beat the Bears.

It might be a sad day for the Packers, but right now it is still better than a good day for a Bears fan. Best of luck next year. The bears right now don't even have a wide receiver that would make the packers practice squad, nonetheless an quarterback to throw to them. I am sure Rexy and Devon Hester will take you to the Superbowl next year. Pesonally, I will take #12 over any quarterback the bears have had in the last 10 years

brianwspencer 03-04-2008 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by GBBob
umm..besides the fact the Bears suck?

Which clearly played right into Green Bay's hands this past year, right? The Bears have yet to make themselves substantially worse than they were last year (with the exception of losing Berrian), and the Pack don't seem to have made themselves substantially better, so I don't follow your logic....

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Originally Posted by Coach Pants
It's obvious Brian doesn't keep up with free agency.

Which has changed the dynamic, how? The Bears haven't change a hell of a lot from last year, and I'm still not seeing a knight in shining armor for the Pack, given that they've now lost their biggest asset, that is going to make some cataclysmic shift in talent levels.

hoovesupsideyourhead 03-04-2008 12:00 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d9VY6...eature=related

Coach Pants 03-04-2008 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by brianwspencer


Which has changed the dynamic, how? The Bears haven't change a hell of a lot from last year, and I'm still not seeing a knight in shining armor for the Pack, given that they've now lost their biggest asset, that is going to make some cataclysmic shift in talent levels.

Grossman should have no problem adapting to new recievers. You're right.

GBBob 03-04-2008 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by brianwspencer
Which clearly played right into Green Bay's hands this past year, right? The Bears have yet to make themselves substantially worse than they were last year (with the exception of losing Berrian), and the Pack don't seem to have made themselves substantially better, so I don't follow your logic....



Which has changed the dynamic, how? The Bears haven't change a hell of a lot from last year, and I'm still not seeing a knight in shining armor for the Pack, given that they've now lost their biggest asset, that is going to make some cataclysmic shift in talent levels.


Brian...The point isn't the Bears haven't made themselves substantially worse, it's that they were already terrible and have done nothing to address an inept offense. Congrats on re-signing Orton and Rex....too bad they will get killed standing behind the geriatric O-Line you have. You really have NO Wide Receivers, little or no running game and a defense that will lose Mike Brown by Week 2 and possibly Urlacher by the bye.

The Packers are returning the top WRs in football top to bottom, a dynamic runner, a O-Line that is young and protects very well and a D Line that is deep and good. The secondary needs help, but still will be better than average. Losing Fave can't help, but it's still the system that gets the receivers open and makes Grant a Top 5 running back next year.

When the Pack stinks, I'll say it, but objectively there is no way I'll ever believe the Bears will have a better year than GB next year.

Cannon Shell 03-04-2008 12:59 PM

Favre....he has done enough....

brianwspencer 03-04-2008 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by GBBob
Brian...The point isn't the Bears haven't made themselves substantially worse, it's that they were already terrible and have done nothing to address an inept offense. Congrats on re-signing Orton and Rex....too bad they will get killed standing behind the geriatric O-Line you have. You really have NO Wide Receivers, little or no running game and a defense that will lose Mike Brown by Week 2 and possibly Urlacher by the bye.

The Packers are returning the top WRs in football top to bottom, a dynamic runner, a O-Line that is young and protects very well and a D Line that is deep and good. The secondary needs help, but still will be better than average. Losing Fave can't help, but it's still the system that gets the receivers open and makes Grant a Top 5 running back next year.

When the Pack stinks, I'll say it, but objectively there is no way I'll ever believe the Bears will have a better year than GB next year
.

I never said they would, however they also didn't this year and managed to hand the Pack two losses, including one of the more humiliating ones in the rivalry's recent history.

I'm not insinuating that the Bears will outperform the Packers from an overall record standpoint, but I'm having a hard time seeing how the dynamic pending for their two games against each other this season has somehow dramatically shifted to the Pack's favor when the Bears have won 5 of the last 6 when Favre was playing, and the Bears had essentially the same inept offense and the same defensive problems they will have this coming year.

Favre's retirement will change this in such a positive way that it makes the Packers mortal locks over the Bears this year, how?

The Bears are going to suck this year, just like they did last year -- but the Packers sure haven't figured out how to beat them in the past three or four years as it is. It doesn't seem unrealistic to think that Favre leaving knocks them down a notch, and knocking them down a notch from already being incapable of beating the Bears bodes well for the Bears in what will be two of the only games that matter for anything this year for Chicago fans.

hoovesupsideyourhead 03-04-2008 01:36 PM

sigh.. the bears will again suck this year..why they didint get a q/b and some stud o line is criminal.. re sighning grossman is fn unreal.....

go jets.......

whodey17 03-04-2008 02:22 PM

Lovie is the most overrated coach in the NFL. The Bears are just awful.

hoovesupsideyourhead 03-04-2008 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by whodey17
Lovie is the most overrated coach in the NFL. The Bears are just awful.

they will beat the pack twice this year too

GBBob 03-04-2008 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by hoovesupsideyourhead
they will beat the pack twice this year too

let 'em..lol, but doubt it
playoffs count hooves...

Bigsmc 03-04-2008 04:18 PM

I always enjoyed the games when the Pack came to town. Favre just plain played the game as if it was a game. He had fun.

I miss the battles my Bucs and The Packers used to have....

fpsoxfan 03-04-2008 06:16 PM

Enjoy retirement Favre! Enjoy at least 5 years straight of no playoff football Packers. Great Career Brett. Would've like to see a farewell tour, but you went out with class and style.

whodey17 03-04-2008 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by hoovesupsideyourhead
they will beat the pack twice this year too

I dont think so. The Bears are just awful. The Pack still has a good defense, a good running back and good special teams. I am not a fan of either team, but the Bears should finish last in the NFC north.

AeWingnut 03-04-2008 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Bigsmc
I always enjoyed the games when the Pack came to town. Favre just plain played the game as if it was a game. He had fun.

I miss the battles my Bucs and The Packers used to have....


yes, he spent the majority of his career playing against the really bad Bucs, really really bad Lions, Bears and the Viqueens.

Which is almost as bad as the teams the mighty 49ers played during their hayday.

EAST RUTHERFORD, N.J. -- Michael Strahan of the New York Giants broke the NFL record for sacks in a season, and only Brett Favre will ever know if the record-setter was a gift.


Strahan got sack No. 22½ with 2:42 left in the fourth quarter Sunday, falling on Favre after the Green Bay Packers' quarterback rolled out and went down at the feet of the defensive end. The sack broke the 17-year-old record of 22 set by Mark Gastineau in 1984.


The play looked questionable because the Packers were leading 34-25 and Favre didn't have a blocker in front of him on the rollout.


Michael Strahan got the record with a fourth-quarter "sack" of Brett Favre.


Favre, who joked during the week that he might "work out a little side deal" with Strahan to allow him to get the record, called a run in the huddle, teammates said. The quarterback insisted he changed the play to a naked bootleg to catch the Giants off guard, something he's done five or six times this season.


"No, I didn't," Favre said when asked if he allowed Strahan to sack him. "That was a keep pass. I tried to get the edge but he got through."
:rolleyes:

mclem10011 03-04-2008 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by wiphan
It appears official. Favre hangs it up. Truely a great quaterback and a joy to watch play the game. Thanks for all the memories. The Packers will never be the same witout #4.

Brett Favre has been such a class act, on and off the field. Yeah, he was reckless with the ball at times, he threw alot of balls he shouldn't have. BUT, he was a fierce competitor, he was a winner, multiple MVP awards, and won a Superbowl ring. What I will always appreciate and remember about Favre is how much he LOVED playing the game. With a smile on his face, and a spark in his eyes, he played the game the way I wish alot more of these overpaid bums would, because he took joy in playing it! I'm not a Packers fan, but I was a Brett Favre fan, and he will be missed on Sunday's when I'm flipping through games, and don't see #4 on that field! Best wishes to him! One of the best of all time!

dylbert 03-04-2008 10:28 PM

As Mississippi native, I salute Brett Favre for an outstanding Hall of Fame career.

As Dallas Cowboys fan, I will welcome Favre-less Packers to extend their losing streak in Dallas to 10 on their next Texas visit!

GBBob 03-06-2008 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Bigsmc
I always enjoyed the games when the Pack came to town. Favre just plain played the game as if it was a game. He had fun.

I miss the battles my Bucs and The Packers used to have....

Do you think Sapp is first ballot HOF (not so sure)? But, if so, then he and Favre would go in together...wouldn't that be something

Danzig 03-06-2008 06:34 PM

a great quarterback. i thought he might stay another year. after the one he just had, he showed he was still a force to be reckoned with.
hope he enjoys his retirement. i think it had to do with what cal ripken jr was saying the other day. you still want to play, you're just tired of all the working out, the offseason stuff you have to do to stay in the shape to play.

AeWingnut 03-06-2008 09:40 PM

Favre may still come back. He just likes the attention too much


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