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Gotodubai 02-26-2008 06:06 AM

Curlin in race #5 at Nad Al Sheba on Thursday!
 
:) Curlin is in race #5 on Thursday at Nad Al Sheba in Dubai. He will be listed as #1 for wagering purposes (Global pools), but has drawn post 2 in a field of six.
The race is set for 12:15PM EASTERN TIME and can be seen on HRTV, and Capital OTB-TV and other simulcast outlets.
Tough to fill this race from the Carnival condition book with the worlds highest rated dirt horse entered, but five will line up with him. All have 53kg (116lbs), except Curlin who will carry 60kg (132lbs) as set by the conditions.
Can' wait for Thursday, and a very good card of racing for the ninth night of the Dubai International Racing Carnival.:D

NoLuvForPletch 02-26-2008 06:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gotodubai
:) Curlin is in race #5 on Thursday at Nad Al Sheba in Dubai. He will be listed as #1 for wagering purposes (Global pools), but has drawn post 2 in a field of six.
The race is set for 12:15PM EASTERN TIME and can be seen on HRTV, and Capital OTB-TV and other simulcast outlets.
Tough to fill this race from the Carnival condition book with the worlds highest rated dirt horse entered, but five will line up with him. All have 53kg (116lbs), except Curlin who will carry 60kg (132lbs) as set by the conditions.
Can' wait for Thursday, and a very good card of racing for the ninth night of the Dubai International Racing Carnival.:D

Got this from the ERA website. Why are there 12 horses listed in the entries?

5 21:15 JAGUAR TROPHY 2000M(a10F) Dirt
For NH 4YO+ & SH 3YO+ For horses rated 100+

Rail Position: True Safety Limit: 16
Total Purse: 175,000 USD Handicap


1st 2nd 3rd 4th 5th 6th

105,000 35,000 17,500 8,750 5,250 3,500
HR HORSE WGT OWNER TRAINER
129 Curlin (USA) 60.0 Stonestreet Stables LLC S Asmussen
110 Kandidate (GB) 51.5 The Exors of the late A J Richards C Brittain
109 Familiar Territory (GB) 51.0 Sh Saeed bin Mohd Al Maktoum S bin Suroor
108 Igor Protti (GB) 50.5 Godolphin S bin Suroor
106 Engrupido (ARG) 49.5 Sh Mohd bin Khalifa Al Maktoum M de Kock
104 Jet Express (SAF) 48.5 Ahmed Al Falasi A Al Raihe
102 Mutasallil (USA) 48.0 Sh Hamdan bin Rashid Al Maktoum D Watson
101 Arabian Prince (USA) 47.5 Martin Dunne D Watson
101 Sunday Symphony (GB) 47.5 Sh Saeed bin Mohd Al Maktoum S Seemar
100 Arqaam (GB) 47.0 Sh Hamdan bin Rashid Al Maktoum D Watson
100 Dynamic Saint (USA) 47.0 Malih Lahej Al Basti D Watson
100 Imperialista (BRZ) 47.0 Sh Majid bin Mohd Al Maktoum S bin Suroor

Total Entries: 12

my miss storm cat 02-26-2008 06:47 PM

You need to go to the race card...

http://www.emiratesracing.com/eq/Rac...cefile_id=7474

Kandidate, Dynamic Saint, etc. are out and (hopefully) pointed to the real preps.

Bobby Fischer 02-26-2008 06:56 PM

hopefully Churchill gets the PPs up, although its not so bad just reviewing video on 5 entries...

probably not the value race of the card, but i need to get seriously motivated (or see the PPs) if i am going to go after the card.

engrupido seems to be decent, but he is back in 6 days and supposedly they don't use "juice" over there, familiar territory comes in with a little form.

I like the weight assignments. I had totally forgotten what a handicap race was.

brockguy 02-27-2008 03:54 AM

Curlin is actually well in at the weights..

SniperSB23 02-27-2008 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by brockguy
Curlin is actually well in at the weights..

Will be interesting to see since we think weight doesn't mean much over here and you guys think it is incredibly significant. By our mind there's no way he loses here.

my miss storm cat 02-27-2008 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by SniperSB23
By our mind there's no way he loses here.

He can be beaten, but if he is he has a built in excuse. :rolleyes:

PPs.....

http://www.churchilldowns.com/news/r...%202.28.08.pdf

Bobby Fischer 02-28-2008 09:20 AM

yea lets give Mutammares a fox trot on the lead:rolleyes:

Jax Cajun 02-28-2008 09:22 AM

For those of us stuck in an office today, the replay of Curlin's race can be viewed here. (Jaguar Trophy)

http://www.dubairacingclub.com/?cat=35

Bobby Fischer 02-28-2008 09:49 AM

yea lets give alpacco a ...

Bobby Fischer 02-28-2008 10:10 AM

so if they keep handing it to the pace setters boscobel and newguinea should factor.


(expect them last):rolleyes:

mrmikegap 02-28-2008 10:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jax Cajun
For those of us stuck in an office today, the replay of Curlin's race can be viewed here. (Jaguar Trophy)

http://www.dubairacingclub.com/?cat=35


What is the post time for Curlin's race? I thought I remember reading it was 12:30pm EST.

SentToStud 02-28-2008 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by mrmikegap
What is the post time for Curlin's race? I thought I remember reading it was 12:30pm EST.

12:15, I believe.

MaTH716 02-28-2008 11:18 AM

A public workout, wins by about 3 and was never asked. I believe 1/5 was the final odds.

Indian Charlie 02-28-2008 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by MaTH716
A public workout, wins by about 2 and was never asked.

i doubt he got anything from the race.

MaTH716 02-28-2008 11:26 AM

He got a race(if you can call it that) over a track that he will be running on for alot of money, but it looks like the connections got an easy paycheck.

hoovesupsideyourhead 02-28-2008 11:28 AM

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blackthroatedwind 02-28-2008 11:30 AM

I don't think it's boring when our best horse goes to the racetrack......regardless of where he's racing or who he's racing against. It would have been nice, at least for me, if I could have seen it.

Cajungator26 02-28-2008 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
I don't think it's boring when our best horse goes to the racetrack......regardless of where he's racing or who he's racing against. It would have been nice, at least for me, if I could have seen it.

I agree, Andy. Always nice to hear that our best horse WINS.

SentToStud 02-28-2008 11:33 AM

So, I'm looking at Youbet and it shows the place (2nd/3rd finishers) payouts for Familiar Territory at $9.40 and Jet Express at $81.40.

That's a pretty nice couple of pays, especially for Familiar Territory who went off at 7/2.

ELA 02-28-2008 11:34 AM

I watched it and enjoyed it. Whether I am a fan of the horse or not, I always enjoy when the best horses in the game race, especially one who may in fact be very special.

Who knows whether or not the horse got anything out of it, but I would think the connections got out of it, or close to it, what they were lookin for. Whatever it was, it was certainly better than being in the barn. A race over the track, getting acclimated, going under the lights, and so on. Certainly didn't hurt.

Eric

MaTH716 02-28-2008 11:35 AM

Track Condition: Fast
Turf Condition: Good Thursday, February 28, 2008

Results for Race 5
Position Runner Win Place Show
1st 1 CURLIN $2.40 $2.10
2nd 4 FAMILIAR TERRITORY (GB) $9.40
3rd 6 JET EXPRESS (SAF) $81.40
4th 2 ARQAAM (GB)


Other Payouts
$2 EX (1/4) paid $4.20
$2 TRI (1/4/6) paid $36.20

hoovesupsideyourhead 02-28-2008 11:38 AM

i guess i should be excited..would love for him to be challenged abit..congrats to him ..

my miss storm cat 02-28-2008 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by hoovesupsideyourhead
i guess i should be excited..would love for him to be challenged abit..congrats to him ..

I liked your first post better.

Glad he came home safe.

Remember kids, Latency in the DWC! :cool:

ArlJim78 02-28-2008 11:52 AM

I enjoy when the best horses race period. not because of the wagering opportunity, which this was certainly not, just because I like to see a really good horse prove it over and over.

Incredibly, Curlin made his racing debut barely one year ago! 2/3/2007.

herkhorse 02-28-2008 11:52 AM

Didn't get to see the race, but I'm a bit confused about the payouts in a six horse race.

the_fat_man 02-28-2008 11:52 AM

What an INSPIRATIONAL ride by Robby A.

I can see it now: young jockeys everywhere will begin to emulate Robby. No longer will we be subjected to the WRESTLING MATCHES each race between the jock and the horse. (I realize this is a MACHO thing and we must restrain those beasts.)

Imagine, actually loose reigning horses. Allowing them to run on their own. To actually RELAX during a race. To let them finish on their own without beating them to death and causing them to duck and swerve in and out.

I can dream, can't I?

SentToStud 02-28-2008 11:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MaTH716
Track Condition: Fast
Turf Condition: Good Thursday, February 28, 2008

Results for Race 5
Position Runner Win Place Show
1st 1 CURLIN $2.40 $2.10
2nd 4 FAMILIAR TERRITORY (GB) $9.40
3rd 6 JET EXPRESS (SAF) $81.40
4th 2 ARQAAM (GB)


Other Payouts
$2 EX (1/4) paid $4.20
$2 TRI (1/4/6) paid $36.20

I needed to be enrolled in Bobby Fisher's advanced class.

blackthroatedwind 02-28-2008 11:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by herkhorse
Didn't get to see the race, but I'm a bit confused about the payouts in a six horse race.


Here's a guess.....and probably a wrong one....but maybe they mistakenly listed what those horses would have paid to win.

Coach Pants 02-28-2008 11:57 AM

As someone who pushes between $100-$100,000,000 through the windows each year, I found this race a cinch for the show pool.

Jax Cajun 02-28-2008 12:02 PM

For all those that didn't get to see it, it's here:

http://www.dubairacingclub.com/?cat=35

MaTH716 02-28-2008 12:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MaTH716
Track Condition: Fast
Turf Condition: Good Thursday, February 28, 2008

Results for Race 5
Position Runner Win Place Show
1st 1 CURLIN $2.40 $2.10
2nd 4 FAMILIAR TERRITORY (GB) $9.40
3rd 6 JET EXPRESS (SAF) $81.40
4th 2 ARQAAM (GB)


Other Payouts
$2 EX (1/4) paid $4.20
$2 TRI (1/4/6) paid $36.20

I just called NYC OTB to confirm those prices and they are right. There was no show betting and there was a dead heat for second. Now maybe else can offer an explination, because I don't understand either

here is the link to the otb prices.
http://www.nycotb.com/newnycotb/Live...x?currenttab=5

blackthroatedwind 02-28-2008 12:10 PM

There was not a dead heat for second. There was a brain dead person on the other end of your phone however.

docicu3 02-28-2008 12:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jax Cajun
For all those that didn't get to see it, it's here:

http://www.dubairacingclub.com/?cat=35


thanks that was great.....

alysheba4 02-28-2008 12:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the_fat_man
What an INSPIRATIONAL ride by Robby A.

I can see it now: young jockeys everywhere will begin to emulate Robby. No longer will we be subjected to the WRESTLING MATCHES each race between the jock and the horse. (I realize this is a MACHO thing and we must restrain those beasts.)

Imagine, actually loose reigning horses. Allowing them to run on their own. To actually RELAX during a race. To let them finish on their own without beating them to death and causing them to duck and swerve in and out.

I can dream, can't I?

.......that is a good thing....... that works for monsters, maybe not so well with the remaing 99.9999999 % of the horses
in training. no, i wish they didnt whip horses. it really is cruel.

miraja2 02-28-2008 12:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jax Cajun
For all those that didn't get to see it, it's here:

http://www.dubairacingclub.com/?cat=35

Albarado really was just along for the ride the entire time.

He probably could have done the same thing on him in any of the "big" races for older horses going on in the U.S. this weekend and would have won just as easily.

The Bid 02-28-2008 12:26 PM

Miraja, Im not so sure that effort gets it done against the best horses over here, but glad to see the big horse get one under his belt. Hopefully next time he runs its showtime.

I hate how Robby rides, he can really put one to sleep and get them in trouble if others get the jump.

miraja2 02-28-2008 12:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Bid
Miraja, Im not so sure that effort gets it done against the best horses over here, but glad to see the big horse get one under his belt. Hopefully next time he runs its showtime.

I hate how Robby rides, he can really put one to sleep and get them in trouble if others get the jump.

I'm not really sure who the "best horses over here" are at this point, but I think it is safe to say that he could have coasted to a pretty easy victory in a race like the Gulfstream Park Handicap.

I just can't think of any real competition for him right now here or there.

blackthroatedwind 02-28-2008 12:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by miraja2
I'm not really sure who the "best horses over here" are at this point, but I think it is safe to say that he could cruise to a pretty easy victory in a race like the Gulfstream Park Handicap.


He could fly back over tonight and still win that race.

The Bid 02-28-2008 12:37 PM

I thought he looked good, but looked like he certainly was needing one on the gallop out. I just didnt expect him to need any encouragement today putting away up and downers, maybe I expected too much


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