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Mortimer 02-14-2008 06:43 PM

Handicapping 101
 
Before you odd people go through your handicapping "methodologies" you might want to consider something.

What are we looking for ---above and beyond everything else? What is our end goal?

To pick the horse we think has the best chance to win and then construct the bet or no bet around that conclusion. Correct?


Some of you have something else in mind .

Bigsmc 02-14-2008 06:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Meridian_Artisan
Before you odd people go through your handicapping "methodologies" you might want to consider something.

What are we looking for ---above and beyond everything else? What is our end goal?

To pick the horse we think has the best chance to win and then construct the bet or no bet around that conclusion. Correct?


Some of you have something else in mind .

Do you hear the Zodiac Ciphers?

Mortimer 02-14-2008 06:59 PM

The first person to suggest that we all handicap speed is going to get epoxied to the top of their car.

Mortimer 02-14-2008 07:01 PM

Bidsmac;

I had enough of the kindergarten stuff from the loony bin.Move it.


Bill Dullest

Payson Dave 02-14-2008 07:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Meridian_Artisan
Bidsmac;

I had enough of the kindergarten stuff from the loony bin.Move it.


Bill Dullest

Boy...somene gets cranky when Deb O Deb holds out on him...ehhh


oh and did ya see where thebby said thanks for the lillies?

hoovesupsideyourhead 02-14-2008 07:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Payson Dave
Boy...somene gets cranky when Deb O Deb holds out on him...ehhh

she holds out..emm..does not compute

Bigsmc 02-14-2008 07:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Meridian_Artisan
Bidsmac;

I had enough of the kindergarten stuff from the loony bin.Move it.


Bill Dullest

The last guy to hear the ZC was by no means in the loony bin. I would say he was brilliant.

You have a long way to go to get to his level Mr. Dullest.

Payson Dave 02-14-2008 07:12 PM

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Payson Dave 02-14-2008 07:17 PM

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Mortimer 02-14-2008 07:22 PM

Oh.So no one wants to learn anything.Can't imagine why you would change.I must have been crazy to think otherwise.

my miss storm cat 02-14-2008 07:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Meridian_Artisan
Oh.So no one wants to learn anything.Can't imagine why you would change.I must have been crazy to think otherwise.

Wow, you're kinda like The prophet and this is eerily similar to Chapter 1, The Coming of the Ship.

Pretend we're the people of Orphalese and talk to us of, well... chapter 2 is love but we can change that to capping. :p

Mortimer 02-14-2008 08:10 PM

This is so strange. I was just thinking to myself........."You know,Prime Time,there are better things to do.Do these people act like they want help? No. They don't. They're happier throwing money at 6:5's and 3:2's.Let them die."

And the thought struck me;I may be right.

2Hot4TV 02-14-2008 08:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Meridian_Artisan
This is so strange. I was just thinking to myself........."You know,Prime Time,there are better things to do.Do these people act like they want help? No. They don't. They're happier throwing money at 6:5's and 3:2's.Let them die."

And the thought struck me;I may be right.

Dont go away mad. I'm an old dog, go ahead and try to teach me some new tricks.

pmacdaddy 02-14-2008 08:29 PM

You got something to put out there, let it rip. I apologize if I should who you are.

Not sure what the hostility is all about. Thow out some winners or winning ways. I'm all ears.

Mortimer 02-14-2008 08:45 PM

Do I sense a break in the mindset? Do some of you actually want to learn the evil of your ways?

Listen to me. Do not expect me to throw fish at you. I will train you to throw your own fish.

Is this fair?



RULE I.......You DO NOT HANDICAP SPEED...EVER!

This one is a real pet peeve of mine,but if any of you are going to learn anything I want to hear from those that do. And I want to know why.

hoovesupsideyourhead 02-14-2008 08:50 PM

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Mortimer 02-14-2008 08:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2Hot4TV
Dont go away mad. I'm an old dog, go ahead and try to teach me some new tricks.

You there. You look like an insane person. What is your prime motivater in handicapping? What is it you look for in a horse more than any of the other tripe floatng around out there in space----seeking more space as in the heads of so many of your friends here?

In other words; what is it that has made you suck all these years?

Mortimer 02-14-2008 08:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hoovesupsideyourhead
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Ya Sleepy.Go ahead and doze off. Apparently it's not the first time from the looks of many posts you have put on display here.

cowgirlintexas 02-14-2008 09:01 PM

I smell a "mort".

Mortimer 02-14-2008 09:12 PM

You could smell the color purple.

Coach Pants 02-14-2008 09:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Meridian_Artisan
You could smell the color purple.

Oprah?

Mortimer 02-14-2008 09:20 PM

Well why dont you ask Miss Super Sniffer?

viscount26 02-14-2008 09:52 PM

jeez,
I dont normally replt to these post
but WTF is going on here

cowgirlintexas 02-14-2008 09:54 PM

Its a "secret"..shhhhh;) If we told ya, we'd have to kill ya!!

Mortimer 02-14-2008 09:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by viscount26
jeez,
I dont normally replt to these post
but WTF is going on here

=================

You're a sucker for dry pools I would imagine.I suppose you bet on the gray horses,too.

Mortimer 02-14-2008 10:07 PM

RULE II ......70% of all entered horses have fools for trainers or idiots on their backs. Or both.You must be able to identify that other group.This is just one reason why you do not bet speed.

colt 45ss 02-15-2008 07:07 AM

capping
 
i am willing to listen and learn
i will also bite on the do not handicap for speed comment
the aqueduct inner track has always had a speed bias many days during the winter meet
so please educate me as to why i should toss speed figures when playing the inner
teach me another methodology
i want to learn how to pick more winners and cash more often
thanks

cowgirlintexas 02-15-2008 07:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by colt 45ss
i am willing to listen and learn
i will also bite on the do not handicap for speed comment
the aqueduct inner track has always had a speed bias many days during the winter meet
so please educate me as to why i should toss speed figures when playing the inner
teach me another methodology
i want to learn how to pick more winners and cash more often
thanks

This ought to get interesting...

Mortimer 02-15-2008 07:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cowgirlintexas
This ought to get interesting...

Is it possible you could just stay in Texas?

hoovesupsideyourhead 02-15-2008 07:47 AM

im sorry sir i was sleeping please continue your lesson ..why dont you use gulfstream today to show us the way..we can all learn from the master!!

Mortimer 02-15-2008 07:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by colt 45ss
i am willing to listen and learn
i will also bite on the do not handicap for speed comment

the aqueduct inner track has always had a speed bias many days during the winter meet
so please educate me as to why i should toss speed figures when playing the inner
teach me another methodology

i want to learn how to pick more winners and cash more often
thanks





Hello Colt ---is it 45? Whatever;


Well I see your years of losing has made you reduce the Aqueduct challenges down to a science.

The inner track there always has a speed bias ....."many" days ....durring the-----winter meet.


And you want to know why you should toss speed figures.

You're a surface better.


That's like a carpet bomber.



Stick around for rule 3 later today and then we'll go back and break the first 3 down so even 2 hot to have any idea what he's doing...and his knitting friend dialadate can follow along .






Best regards,
Bill Dullest

Mortimer 02-15-2008 08:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hoovesupsideyourhead
im sorry sir i was sleeping please continue your lesson ..why dont you use gulfstream today to show us the way..we can all learn from the master!!

Hello Hoops;



Great seeing you roasting the hen..I mean posting again.I'm sorry....surgical wagering is way down the road for you folks. You're just not ready yet.


By the way---you can call me Prime Time if you wish.




Beats cigars...I mean Best regards,

Bill Dullest

colt 45ss 02-15-2008 08:21 AM

i cannot wait
in a game where there are no absolutes
we are going to get the napoleonic code of wagering rules

Mortimer 02-15-2008 08:28 AM

Hello Colt;



You're a spazz in a Ford....I mean add a lot of class to the board.


There ARE absolutes in this game.


You have not been shown what they are. I will be doing so in my discussions here.We will get to The First Dullest Law of Racing Mechanics.That is the first step in undertsanding my failue proof method.

I want you to make a selection at your favorite track today.....don't tell me what it is.





Best regards,

Bill Dullest

Mortimer 02-15-2008 09:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hoovesupsideyourhead
im sorry sir i was sleeping please continue your lesson ..why dont you use gulfstream today to show us the way..we can all learn from the master!!

Hoops;

I'm going to give you what is known as Dullest Dust.


Use your own ridiculous method at Gulfstream;never trust a public handicapper. NEVER.







By the way----I admire your road signs very much.







Beast Libtards...I mean Best regards,

Bill "Prime Time " Dulllest

Mortimer 02-15-2008 09:16 AM

RULE III..If your selection agrees with a public handicappers selection------throw it away.

MISTERGEE 02-15-2008 09:26 AM

this thread started 15 hours ago and we are on rule 3, can we slow it down a bit. I need a pad and some paper!

colt 45ss 02-15-2008 09:31 AM

good point
can i sign up for the eveyln wood handicapping seminar
we are two hours to post on the east coast
so how about a rules list and a few selections utilizing the inca's secrets to wealth and handicapping
but make sure that the selection has not been identified by any handicapping in the world
that should take google only about a 25 day sort

2 Dollar Bill 02-15-2008 09:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by viscount26
jeez,
I dont normally reply to these post
but WTF is going on here

I second that ! ...

2 Dollar Bill 02-15-2008 09:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MISTERGEE
this thread started 15 hours ago and we are on rule 3, can we slow it down a bit. I need a pad and some paper!

EBay has the CD rom version allready !


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