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SCUDSBROTHER 02-06-2008 12:21 AM

What Will Be Obvious After Tonite
 
Latinos are not supporting OBAMA very much...

"OBAMA is winning big in L.A. County isn't he?"-Larry King

"Uh no Larry,actually it's Hillary that is doing well in L.A. County"-Anchor

Obama's STRONG SPOT WILL BE THE TREEHUGGER FRISCO BAY AREA(NOT L.A. COUNTY.)

I can't remember the %,but Hillary got a huge % of the New York Latino vote....You can have your own opinion why this is,but it's a fact that OBAMA is not winning the Latino vote...........OBAMA took 71% of St. Louis' votes(a different type of minority area.)

SniperSB23 02-06-2008 12:32 AM

I'm watching MSNBC for what it is worth. They seem to be pretty fair so far although maybe slightly in the favor of Hillary.

Hillary is winning with old hispanics. An interesting combination of demographics to go after but it has at least got her almost half the delegates tonight. Maybe she'll cry again in the next week or two to assure herself of the sympathetic white women vote.

SCUDSBROTHER 02-06-2008 12:51 AM

Here is the way it's breaking down:

(overall)

Blacks,Young people,upper income types,tree-hugger/computer chip types=OBAMA

old people,Latinos,white women,and to some extent blue collar/union workers=Clinton

White Men (if aren't in the above groups) seem to be breaking up somewhat equally.To some extent the poor(other than the Black poor) seem to favor Hillary somewhat.This is an incredible race.The raw vote was only 100k in favor of Hillary today(11 mil DEMS VOTED.)

onebadbeast 02-06-2008 12:55 AM

If Hillary Wins This Country Is Finito! And I Will Leave The Country.

SCUDSBROTHER 02-06-2008 01:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by onebadbeast
If Hillary Wins This Country Is Finito! And I Will Leave The Country.

PROMISES..PROMISES.......McCain ain't a Conservative.So,ya gunna be fkd either way.We are a thread away from it being McCaine,Hillary,or OBAMA....ALL THREE ARE LEFT OR MIDDLE.YOU GOT NOBODY.

Danzig 02-06-2008 06:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by onebadbeast
If Hillary Wins This Country Is Finito! And I Will Leave The Country.

that response is one i've seen ever since clinton. i can't remember if anyone said that before bill got office--anyone remember it before then?
i know some hollywood yahoos said they would leave if bush won (a reason to vote for george?!) but they're still here.

thankfully one person can't single-handedly ruin the country. i wouldn't pack my bags regardless of who won.

miraja2 02-06-2008 06:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by onebadbeast
If Hillary Wins This Country Is Finito! And I Will Leave The Country.

While I don't really understand this sentiment, you don't need to worry. She can't win a general election in this country, in part because a lot of people feel like you do. Hillary is the one person who can unify the Republican Party....against her.
I'm a Democrat and a big Obama supporter. In part this is because I think he would be a far better president, but also because he at least has a chance of winning in November. She - on the other hand - would have no chance.

GBBob 02-06-2008 06:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by miraja2
While I don't really understand this sentiment, you don't need to worry. She can't win a general election in this country, in part because a lot of people feel like you do. Hillary is the one person who can unify the Republican Party....against her.
I'm a Democrat and a big Obama supporter. In part this is because I think he would be a far better president, but also because he at least has a chance of winning in November. She - on the other hand - would have no chance.


yep..that's exactly the way it is

Danzig 02-06-2008 06:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by miraja2
While I don't really understand this sentiment, you don't need to worry. She can't win a general election in this country, in part because a lot of people feel like you do. Hillary is the one person who can unify the Republican Party....against her.
I'm a Democrat and a big Obama supporter. In part this is because I think he would be a far better president, but also because he at least has a chance of winning in November. She - on the other hand - would have no chance.

i've seen where obama has been steadily gaining on hilary nationally in the polls...i really think that's true as well, that he could win, and she could not.

Danzig 02-06-2008 06:53 AM

i found this:

As a result, Todd said, Clinton could end up with the most votes at the end of the evening, but the delegate count could be nearly even, with Obama winning 841 to Clinton’s 837.
“We have a split decision tonight,” Todd said.

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and this:


In the Democratic races, Barack Obama led with eight in 10 black voters and Hillary Rodham Clinton led with just over half of whites. Obama’s support among four in 10 whites across 16 states was more than he had captured in earlier primary states. Clinton won six in 10 Hispanic voters. Obama led among white men, while Clinton led among white women.
Obama won in Alabama, Delaware, Georgia, and his home state of Illinois, all states where more than one-fifth of the voters were black. Clinton won in Arkansas, Massachusetts, Missouri, New York, and Oklahoma, states with fewer black voters, but she also won in Tennessee and New Jersey, both states where one-fourth of the voters were black.

Overall, Obama led among men and Clinton led among women, although her advantage among women appeared smaller than was seen in early primary states. An exception was New York, which Clinton represents in the Senate. There, Clinton was competitive among men and gained the support of four in 10 blacks. In Arizona, Obama was more competitive among Hispanics than he was nationally.

In the Republican races, John McCain led among men. He was tied with Mitt Romney among women.

ShadowRoll 02-06-2008 07:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by miraja2
While I don't really understand this sentiment, you don't need to worry. She can't win a general election in this country, in part because a lot of people feel like you do. Hillary is the one person who can unify the Republican Party....against her.
I'm a Democrat and a big Obama supporter. In part this is because I think he would be a far better president, but also because he at least has a chance of winning in November. She - on the other hand - would have no chance.

Disagree completely. Whoever wins the Dem nom will have unified Democratic support, including the former Obama supporters. But, most importantly, Hillary can get votes from a bloc that Obama likely wouldn't -- namely, Republican women.

GBBob 02-06-2008 07:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ShadowRoll
Disagree completely. Whoever wins the Dem nom will have unified Democratic support, including the former Obama supporters. But, most importantly, Hillary can get votes from a bloc that Obama likely wouldn't -- namely, Republican women.

But Hilary so disgusts true Repubs who aren't real excited about McCain that they would be motivated to turn out in larger numbers than they might if it was Barack. The answer to who wins the general election may not be who votes, but who doesn't.

ShadowRoll 02-06-2008 08:03 AM

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Originally Posted by GBBob
But Hilary so disgusts true Repubs who aren't real excited about McCain that they would be motivated to turn out in larger numbers than they might if it was Barack. The answer to who wins the general election may not be who votes, but who doesn't.

True Republicans always turn out in large numbers. The biggest changes occur when those who normally feel themselves disenfranchised think they have shot at effectuating their views. Even if the hard-core Republican Clinton haters turn out in mass droves, the amount of interest in the Democratic race this year will ensure a large Democratic turn out. And there's less haves than have-nots. Plus, Hillary will still pick up many moderate Republican women.

Coach Pants 02-06-2008 08:07 AM

Can't we be professionals in this thread?

Come on!!! Show some class!!


























































GBBob 02-06-2008 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Pillow Pants
Can't we be professionals in this thread?

Come on!!! Show some class!!


























































^ ^ ^

wishes he was dancing on table

Mortimer 02-06-2008 08:40 AM

Be careful of CharleeRose today.



She's in a premedtroll way.

GPK 02-06-2008 08:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mortimer
Be careful of CharleeRose today.



She's in a premedtroll way.


^^ Obama's surprise running mate...

Mortimer 02-06-2008 09:10 AM

^^^ Currently in private at Dannies MILT site.

Mortimer 02-06-2008 09:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
Thanks for the first laugh of the day. I'd ask why you don't like her, but I'm sure the answer will be something like....I just don't. Seriously, is it even possible that she or whoever is elected will do a worse job than the person they'll be replacing? No way, so at least you have that to look forward to. I am curious as to what she will do that will be so bad that we'll be finished as a nation. I'm awaiting laugh number two...


^^^Notorious Carla attack wuffie.

GPK 02-06-2008 09:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mortimer
^^^ Currently in private at Dannies MILT site.

BUSTED....

Mortimer 02-06-2008 09:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GPK
BUSTED....


No she's not.


Which is why I'm in private at Debbies MILT site.

;)

GPK 02-06-2008 09:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mortimer
No she's not.


Which is why I'm in private at Debbies MILT site.

;)


*note to self...have sit down talk with Deb-O-Deb

Mortimer 02-06-2008 09:25 AM

^^^ Trained seal.

Mortimer 02-06-2008 09:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GPK
*note to self...have sit down talk with Deb-O-Deb

^^ Apparently not very fond of oatmeal topped with candy kiss.

Mortimer 02-06-2008 09:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mortimer
^^ Apparently not very fond of oatmeal topped with candy kiss.

^^^ Has hijacked yet another thread.


Very popular with MILT's.

Doesn't do badly with young flirts with outrageous sex desires, either.

It's GREAT being me!

Mortimer 02-06-2008 09:44 AM

Where did everyone go?

Mortimer 02-06-2008 10:01 AM

God.

GPK 02-06-2008 10:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mortimer
^^^ Has hijacked yet another thread.


Very popular with MILT's.

Doesn't do badly with young flirts with outrageous sex desires, either.

It's GREAT being me!


far and away...my favorite Mortyism

Mortimer 02-06-2008 10:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GPK
far and away...my favorite Mortyism

^^^ Elevated to trained chimpanzee status.

Mortimer 02-06-2008 10:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
^^^Jumping out of the cake at Carla's birthday.


^^^ Will wear mouse suit as directed by mastress.

Mortimer 02-06-2008 10:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
^^^Jumping out of the cake at Carla's birthday.


^^^ Also doubles as Aunty Cooby's dupa film maker.

Mortimer 02-06-2008 11:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
^^^ Applying for a job as plexiglass installer.

HOLY MOTHER OF GOD!
















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OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.33 STEVIE.

Mortimer 02-06-2008 11:15 AM

I'm sorry.

















I shouldn't make fun of plexiglass.


























Plexiglass is good.








































Plexiglass teaches us about life.























Yes.









































It teaches blind Panda's to be aware of their surroundings at all times.

































Plexiglass is our friend.

SCUDSBROTHER 02-06-2008 04:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danzig
that response is one i've seen ever since clinton. i can't remember if anyone said that before bill got office--anyone remember it before then?
i know some hollywood yahoos said they would leave if bush won (a reason to vote for george?!) but they're still here.

thankfully one person can't single-handedly ruin the country. i wouldn't pack my bags regardless of who won.

If you remember,people said it in 2004(when the Congress,the Presidency,and the Senate were all controlled by 1 party.)That's what scared people(not just who was President.)There were enough moderates (like McCain) to keep GEEDUBBYA from doing whatever he pleased.If she were to get in, it would be like when her husband was in(except she wouldn't have been for NAFTA.)Wouldn't have to worry about sex scandal with her(could see bubba caught again though..lol.)Let me ask you this: If OBAMA gets the nomination,can he get Georgia(with an incredible Black turn out?) I can't see her getting hardly any southern states(maybe Ark.,or maybe 45% chance of getting Florida.)With massive Black turn-out,he could win some southern states,and Democrats are going to have to do that.

kentuckyrosesinmay 02-06-2008 04:42 PM

It looks like it's most likely going to be McCain vs. Clinton in the general election. Obama is going to have to step it up. I will be voting for Clinton, which I couldn't have ever believed in my wildest dreams (and some of them are pretty wild:D ).

Swale84 02-06-2008 06:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danzig
that response is one i've seen ever since clinton. i can't remember if anyone said that before bill got office--anyone remember it before then?
i know some hollywood yahoos said they would leave if bush won (a reason to vote for george?!) but they're still here.

thankfully one person can't single-handedly ruin the country. i wouldn't pack my bags regardless of who won.

LBJ and Jimmy Carter gave it a good try

miraja2 02-06-2008 06:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kentuckyrosesinmay
It looks like it's most likely going to be McCain vs. Clinton in the general election. Obama is going to have to step it up.

I have no idea what you are basing that on. The remaining primaries this month greatly favor Obama. They should be close to even in delegates going into the Ohio and Texas primaries in early March. Plus her campaign is completely broke (they are dipping into their personal fortune to the tune of $5 million), while his fundraising remains strong.
She could still win the nomination, but trust me this thing is far from over, and in reality is about a coin toss right now.


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