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paisjpq 02-01-2008 10:25 AM

Victory Gallop to turkey
 
interesting....I guess.

http://www.drf.com/news/article/91989.html



Coach Pants 02-01-2008 10:46 AM

Oh **** SCUDS is going to tear this one up.

Coach Pants 02-01-2008 11:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cardus
I signed on a few minutes ago, and when I saw the "threadline," SCUDS was the first person I considered!

Victory Gallop is going to become the most intolerant, untrainable, unreasonable Thoroughbred in equine history!

I bet the Gallop hates women.

letswastemoney 02-01-2008 12:23 PM

gobble gobble

The Indomitable DrugS 02-01-2008 04:47 PM

Real Quiet hasn't really been a bad sire at all - but he's standing for 5K in Pennsylvania last I heard.

The 3rd place finisher from the '98 Derby - Indian Charlie - clearly turned out to be a success at stud.

Ever since his foals starting hitting the track - a certain poster here has made a big effort to show me how utterly crap infested his book of mares are each and every year.

He really has consistantly done a very good job at getting some runners every crop.

Indian Charlie 02-01-2008 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS
Real Quiet hasn't really been a bad sire at all - but he's standing for 5K in Pennsylvania last I heard.

The 3rd place finisher from the '98 Derby - Indian Charlie - clearly turned out to be a success at stud.

Ever since his foals starting hitting the track - a certain poster here has made a big effort to show me how utterly crap infested his book of mares are each and every year.

He really has consistantly done a very good job at getting some runners every crop.

Yeah, well, no blacktype at all, as in zero, in his first two to three books of mares when he went to stud, that's about as crap infested as you get. Nevermind that most of the mares that went to him never won a race.

Consider that he had huge physical issues and is also a wobbler, he's probably one of the 2-3 greatest talents I've ever seen run.

It was OBVIOUS he was going to be a good stud.

SCUDSBROTHER 02-01-2008 06:28 PM

He better make runners,or he will become Sis Kebobi(Shish Kebob.)Making pokeys will result in him being a "missing" horse.Sometimes things just get lost..o.k? This can happen anywhere.

As far as Turkish racing goes,they race a little more Arabians than Thoroughbreds(they call them English.)Far as I can tell,they do allow betting.The country(as a whole) is slowly slipping from Secular to Islamic(as far as laws go.) So,hurry to make your bets.They once had casinos,but for some reason(almost overnight) that stopped.That's the type of country it is.Probably most people there don't know they have horse betting there.If they find out,don't be surprised if they ban it quickly.


In 1983 the Turkish government granted permission to first-class holiday villages and five star hotels to open casinos on their properties. At the peak there were more than 80 casinos in Turkey in tourist facilities located in Antalya, Izmir, Istanbul and Ankara. In 1997 more than 14 billion US dollars were wagered in Turkey's casinos surpassing gambling income in many European countries.

Turkish parliament voted, however, on August 8, 1997 to close all casinos within six months. Even after the Islamic government was replaced by a secular, center-right administration the parliamentary vote to close them overrode a veto by the than President Suleyman Demirel. From mid-February 16, 1998 the government decree closing the casinos went into effect putting an estimated 20,000 people out of their jobs.

SCUDSBROTHER 02-01-2008 07:27 PM

1st thing V. GALLOP will be required to do is watch this,and start getting himself TURKIFIED.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qfQuTrSAxjM

letswastemoney 02-01-2008 07:52 PM

I don't understand....if Victory Gallop is in danger by being in Turkey if he doesn't perform, then shouldn't they just keep him here?

Danzig 02-01-2008 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by letswastemoney
I don't understand....if Victory Gallop is in danger by being in Turkey if he doesn't perform, then shouldn't they just keep him here?

the $$$ are sufficient to ease the worry i guess...

eajinabi 02-01-2008 08:03 PM

VG is one my favorite horses. This horse had one helluva turn of foot. Just see him in The stephen foster in 1999 and you will see.

I think he will enhance turkish racing like sunday silence did to Japan Racing


India will probably be next in the US horse aquisition.

my miss storm cat 02-01-2008 08:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eajinabi
VG is one my favorite horses. This horse had one helluva turn of foot. Just see him in The stephen foster in 1999 and you will see.

I think he will enhance turkish racing like sunday silence did to Japan Racing


India will probably be next in the US horse aquisition.


For anyone interested.....

http://www.tjk.org.tr/Default.aspx?l=2

To check out some of the stud farms (pictures, etc. - Drop down menu to the right)...

http://www.tjk.org.tr/Content/Haralar_en.aspx?l=2

(As an aside, India has made some nice purchases in the past year.....) :)

SCUDSBROTHER 02-01-2008 08:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by letswastemoney
I don't understand....if Victory Gallop is in danger by being in Turkey if he doesn't perform, then shouldn't they just keep him here?

He is in no danger,but he must do his duty and make warriors worthy of being called "TURKISH." He will be expected to perform his duties with the passion and fire shown by the great warriors in this film.This is called "Guns n' Roses."He will be shown this,and he will realize how proud he should be to be wanted by Great Turk Warriors:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jesEq...eature=related

They can train him for Kökbörü(kind of like polo,but with a big goat carcass that is dragged with 1 arm-while riding a horse.)

Monarchos1 02-02-2008 07:17 AM

This is a curious move in that VG sired Anak Nakal, a leading conteneder for this year's KY Derby. I'll certainly pull for this Zito runner now, as a win in Louisville would undoubtedly earn VG a one-way ticket back to this country.

hoovesupsideyourhead 02-02-2008 07:41 AM

poor horse ..hope he likes tea..

Port Conway Lane 02-02-2008 07:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Monarchos1
This is a curious move in that VG sired Anak Nakal, a leading conteneder for this year's KY Derby. I'll certainly pull for this Zito runner now, as a win in Louisville would undoubtedly earn VG a one-way ticket back to this country.

I don't think the Turks are going to just send Big Vic back if his son wins the derby. I'll be pulling for Anak Nakal as well if he makes it to Churchill.

SentToStud 02-02-2008 08:00 AM

Start mixing in some Hummus and Babaganoush (both with extra garlic) into Victory Gallop's oats.

That steed will soon be more potent than imaginable.

SCUDSBROTHER 02-02-2008 12:53 PM

He will probably enjoy the Turkish mares,and their mating process is much simpler there.They will submit to him.

Pedigree Ann 02-02-2008 05:19 PM

Doug Cauthen (WinStar manager) said that VG was a solid stallion but didn't sire yearlings that could make $100K at the sales. He had become a <gasp> breed to race sire, not a breed to sell one. So when the Turkish offer came around, the syndicate snapped it up.

Linny 02-02-2008 06:03 PM

Almost makes Anak Nakal a lock in the KY Derby. It seems everytime a stallion is exported, he suddenly jumps up with a big horse.

The Indomitable DrugS 02-02-2008 06:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pedigree Ann
Doug Cauthen (WinStar manager) said that VG was a solid stallion but didn't sire yearlings that could make $100K at the sales. He had become a <gasp> breed to race sire, not a breed to sell one. So when the Turkish offer came around, the syndicate snapped it up.

He sired Victory U. S. A. - who sold for over 500K at the sales and was his best horse.

She had her soundness issues.

The reason why his horses don't sell well is because they most often can't run for crap.

SCUDSBROTHER 02-02-2008 07:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pedigree Ann
Doug Cauthen (WinStar manager) said that VG was a solid stallion but didn't sire yearlings that could make $100K at the sales. He had become a <gasp> breed to race sire, not a breed to sell one. So when the Turkish offer came around, the syndicate snapped it up.

I'm just glad they didn't try to get my boy Lit de Justice.He is doing well now as a breed to race sire.There is no end to the groups of people and things that they would like to have "LIT DE" in front of.

SCUDSBROTHER 02-05-2008 11:13 AM

Just so V Gallop knows,the level of English spoken in Turkey is not good.It's very broken,and broken in an unusual way.They do have very favored English words in Turkey.They have an intense affection for 2 English words:





1)fck

2)you

my miss storm cat 02-05-2008 05:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER
Just so V Gallop knows,the level of English spoken in Turkey is not good.It's very broken,and broken in an unusual way.They do have very favored English words in Turkey.They have an intense affection for 2 English words:





1)fck

2)you

"Very favored English words in Turkey."

Aaaah well perhaps you'd like to volunteer to go and teach them how to speak properly.....

freddymo 02-05-2008 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by paisjpq

Beautiful this time of year

paisjpq 02-05-2008 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by freddymo
Beautiful this time of year

I actually took that photo in may a couple of years ago....but he looked great for mid-way through his 'work year'.

Danzig 02-05-2008 09:25 PM

he looks dammed good in that pic. hate to see him leave.

SCUDSBROTHER 02-06-2008 06:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by my miss storm cat
"Very favored English words in Turkey."

Aaaah well perhaps you'd like to volunteer to go and teach them how to speak properly.....

Trust me...They don't like to be corrected...LOL....They will accuse you of "judging them" too much.See,then they get stubborn.Won't fix it.That's what took place here: at 0:54

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oTefslMbZhA

"did you ever realized how i felt?"

He didn't like to be corrected.So he left it.:rolleyes:LOL..Oh well...Sometimes just got to take the good with the bad.

AeWingnut 02-06-2008 06:13 AM

I've learned a coujple things on this thread

mostly that RAP is terrible on an international level

my miss storm cat 02-06-2008 09:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

Sometimes just got to take the good with the bad.

I think this is the first time we've ever agreed. :D

I don't want to drag this thread o/t but this kid... he's in Turkey?

Good for him for trying.

SCUDSBROTHER 02-06-2008 12:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by my miss storm cat
I think this is the first time we've ever agreed. :D

I don't want to drag this thread o/t but this kid... he's in Turkey?

Good for him for trying.

Yes,he is in beautiful Ankara.Maybe he will feed V.G. some carrots(........not.)He does try,and has gotten a lot better.I guess I can be blamed for some of the shortening of words etc.,but I don't remember ever using "wut." I am probably responsible for him using dat,n' cuz,but I tried to get him to use correct verb tenses. He has "vocal issues" now.Has had them off n' on since he basically screamed while covering Chris Brown's "Wall to Wall." I think he probably has something that begins with an n and ends in an e(with 1 vowel n' 1 consonant in between,) but he doesn't seem open to that possibility.Says he is going thru his 2nd vocal change.Thing is that his voice doesn't stay deep.If he rests it,then it isn't low.If he rests it,then it gets better,If he uses it,then it gets worse.It acts like an injury(not just a vocal change.)He is pussywhipped cubed though.Soon as his Danish girlfriend decides it could be injured,then he will probably accept the possibility.


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