ok debate time ..
 

who would have won the belmont if all tc winners were in the same race..keep in mind secrt..would have had some traffic trouble... go to town.

ok i think it would have been

count fleet

secr


assault

Sir Barton in a romp.

seattle slew

no, seriously...i think war admiral. that horses belmont was amazing. but then, so was count fleets and secretariats.
but the admiral set a record, won the race, with an injury that almost forced his retirement. came back to the winners circle with blood all over himself. but he refused to lose.

Jazil?

LMAO :D

Yeah, had Jazil run in the Preakness - he probably would have swept the triple crown of racing last at the first pace call in all three races in the series.

what about lasix..

Trouble moving your water ole timer????

if horses of years past had lasix what would have happend..

Bid would have beaten them all, but Secretariat out of all the TC winners.

Jazil at 5 miles for non TC winners.

His dam and a half sibling to his dam were both track record setting sprinters on Northern Cal fair-circuit bullrings.

Even with the stamina on top - he didn't exactly have a 12 furlong pedigree - and though he lossed both career starts at 12 furlongs...he did seem to do it with valid trip excuses to his defense.

Valid excuses were something he never needed between the distances of 7 furlongs and 10 furlongs - going 24-for-24 with 14 Grade 1 wins - setting or equaling 8 track records - and having 23 of those 24 wins coming by margins of 1.5 lengths or greater.

lost

Gives me goosebumps what a monster.

Hey, you're talking to Eli Manning. What do you expect? :)

To correct DrugS' spelling, and add nothing else, is one of the more subtle ways of showcasing ones jealousy to his dashingly good looks.

Am I missing something here?
He ran the race in 2:24 and won by 31 lengths. I think Big Red would beat any of them at any distance but going 12 furlongs at Belmont he would be the most likely winner by far.
I would use Affirmed and Citation to fill out the trifecta.

Even if the Bid was allowed to participate in the race with the actual TC winners, I don't think there is any way he could handle Sec (or probably not the other two) at 12f.

I just liked the chick

floating eye Manning

Not to turn off-topic from this fine thread that makes you ponder hypothetical 12 furlong races featuring Seattle Slew and Sir Barton sending for the lead....

But, upon a further review of the picture....




Eli is Gold.

Ignoring the above segue :) ... I have to go with Secretariat, based upon what he did without even being challenged. If someone else was there to look him in the eye ....

alydar

You mean stoned.

I think it may be the placement of her right hand at that particular moment..

Assuming Secretariat runs 2:24 .... he wins.

I don't think it's a good assumption that he'd run 2:24 again though. He ran in the Woodward and they went 2:25 4/5 and he lost by 4 1/2 lengths so he was somewhere in the mid-2:26 area. He ran in the Man o'War and went 2:24 4/5. I know that was on the grass but very often, grass times are faster than dirt times. So I think that it's more likely that Secretariat would run a time in the area of 2:25 2/5 to 2:26 2/5. While that's still outstanding and would win most races at the distance, I think the 2:24 was an abberation.

I also think it's wrong to say that Secretariat would beat them at any distance. Other than the 12f distance, was he faster than Bid at other distances? Bid ran 7f in 1:20. He ran it in 1:20 4/5 as a 2yo. Secretariat didn't run it that fast. Bid ran 8.5f in 1:40 2/5 and went under 1:42 a couple more times. Secretariat went 1:42 4/5. We know that Bid went 10f in 1:57 4/5. Bid went 1:45 and 1:46 1/5 for 9f. I am not sure if they were at one or two turns but if they were at two, that's more impressive, IMO, than Secretariat's 1:45 2/5 at one turn. Secretariat has the edge in 8f races (1:33 2/5 to 1:34 4/5) and Sec's unofficial Preakness time of 1:53 and change beats Bid's 1:54 1/5. The point is that at 12f, Secretariat was clearly far superior to Bid. But at any other distance, I don't think that's anywhere close to true.

At 12F I think it is Secretariat in a romp.

and GO GIANTS !!