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hoovesupsideyourhead 01-17-2008 03:46 PM

Commentator.. nice!
 
zito had em cranked track record,,won by 12 congrats

blackthroatedwind 01-17-2008 03:50 PM

I guess after the first quarter in just a few hundreds under 24 he was in pretty good shape.

Nice performance. Hopefully it will be a precursor to more good races.

gallant bloom 01-17-2008 03:50 PM

the rest of
the field
never had
a chance
against him.

blackthroatedwind 01-17-2008 03:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gallant bloom
the rest of
the field
never had
a chance
against him.

Pretentious anyone?

hoovesupsideyourhead 01-17-2008 03:57 PM

im sure mr zito is liking that and thinking ahead . where would you point em?

for me it would be the donn........

declansharbor 01-17-2008 03:57 PM

Hell of a run by Commentator.
What was the track record at the distance prior to this?

blackthroatedwind 01-17-2008 03:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hoovesupsideyourhead

for me it would be the donn........


It's a good thing you're not training him.

Cajungator26 01-17-2008 04:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
It's a good thing you're not training him.

LOL

Had a feeling that one was coming.

Indian Charlie 01-17-2008 04:02 PM

Actually, I've been wondering for awhile now when Zito would come to his senses and realize that this horse cannot be competitive sprinting against top notch sprinters.

His game is mile racing. especially in races devoid of any real speed burners.

I'd like to see him run in races like the Met mile I suppose.

hoovesupsideyourhead 01-17-2008 04:02 PM

whatever......and yes it is.....why not ..if hes doing that good..take a shot.

blackthroatedwind 01-17-2008 04:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by declansharbor
Hell of a run by Commentator.
What was the track record at the distance prior to this?

Don't know it in hundreds but it was 1:33 4/5.

Judging by the 2nd race he probably gets a number in the 105 range.

blackthroatedwind 01-17-2008 04:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hoovesupsideyourhead
whatever......and yes it is.....why not ..if hes doing that good..take a shot.


It's in 16 days. He's a 7YO who just made his 16th start.

Do you need any more reasons?

hoovesupsideyourhead 01-17-2008 04:06 PM

nope.........but he could win..lol

whodey17 01-17-2008 04:07 PM

It was a performace that would be expected. He won an optional claiming race. Don't worry, Mr Zito will continue to put this horse in the wrong spots. He cannot help himself. I really believe Zito has Napoleon's syndrom.

blackthroatedwind 01-17-2008 04:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie
Actually, I've been wondering for awhile now when Zito would come to his senses and realize that this horse cannot be competitive sprinting against top notch sprinters.

His game is mile racing. especially in races devoid of any real speed burners.

I'd like to see him run in races like the Met mile I suppose.

There are very few stakes races at a mile and only about two of them have been run while he was racing sound. One was last year's Met Mile and for him to have made his debut in that race, off almost a 10 month layoff, might have been a questionable choice. The other was the Cigar Mile in 2004 which might have been a good idea but hard to say.

Finding races for this horse is hard....but keeping him sound is obviously harder.

blackthroatedwind 01-17-2008 04:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by whodey17
It was a performace that would be expected. He won an optional claiming race. Don't worry, Mr Zito will continue to put this horse int he wrong spots. He cannot help himself. I really believe Zito has Napoleon's syndrom.


He won for the 10th time in 16 starts.

You're obviously right, as usual, that Nick has put him in one poor spot after another.

What, exactly, are your accomplishments in this game?

Cajungator26 01-17-2008 04:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by whodey17
It was a performace that would be expected. He won an optional claiming race. Don't worry, Mr Zito will continue to put this horse int he wrong spots. He cannot help himself. I really believe Zito has Napoleon's syndrom.

Jesustapdancingchrist... do you ever shut up about Zito?

Indian Charlie 01-17-2008 04:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
There are very few stakes races at a mile and only about two of them have been run while he was racing sound. One was last year's Met Mile and for him to have made his debut in that race, off almost a 10 month layoff, might have been a questionable choice. The other was the Cigar Mile in 2004 which might have been a good idea but hard to say.

Finding races for this horse is hard....but keeping him sound is obviously harder.

No arguments from me on either point, but still, those races seem perfect for him.

I can't remember, has he ever tried mile races on turf? Turf at all?

hoovesupsideyourhead 01-17-2008 04:10 PM

oh well nice horse ..and a great performance..

declansharbor 01-17-2008 04:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by whodey17
It was a performace that would be expected. He won an optional claiming race. Don't worry, Mr Zito will continue to put this horse int he wrong spots. He cannot help himself. I really believe Zito has Napoleon's syndrom.

huh??
It doesnt really matter what kind of race it was, he set a track record. You obviously were trying to stir the pot when saying that about Zito. Just wondering how much money you won through training horses? I'm sure it pales in comparison to NZ.

blackthroatedwind 01-17-2008 04:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie
No arguments from me on either point, but still, those races seem perfect for him.

I can't remember, has he ever tried mile races on turf? Turf at all?

It's hard to run him in turf races with his kind of talent. It's just not what you do.

Frankly, it's a tribute to the stable that they have been able to continue to get him to the races, all things considered, and that on any given day he may run extremely well.

whodey17 01-17-2008 04:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cajungator26
Jesustapdancingchrist... do you ever shut up about Zito?

One of my favorite lines is "Jumpingjesusonapogostick." It is a line from the song Stuart by The Dead Milkman.

Indian Charlie 01-17-2008 04:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by whodey17
One of my favorite lines is "Jumpingjesusonapogostick." It is a line from the song Stuart by The Dead Milkman.

Wow oh oh, taking retards to the zoo.

Cajungator26 01-17-2008 04:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by whodey17
One of my favorite lines is "Jumpingjesusonapogostick." It is a line from the song Stuart by The Dead Milkman.

I have to give credit to Steve (Byk) on Jesus tap dancing.

whodey17 01-17-2008 04:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by declansharbor
huh??
It doesnt really matter what kind of race it was, he set a track record. You obviously were trying to stir the pot when saying that about Zito. Just wondering how much money you won through training horses? I'm sure it pales in comparison to NZ.

Track records fall like the stock market at Gulfstream. Nothing really to get all excited over.

Indian Charlie 01-17-2008 04:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
It's hard to run him in turf races with his kind of talent. It's just not what you do.

Frankly, it's a tribute to the stable that they have been able to continue to get him to the races, all things considered, and that on any given day he may run extremely well.

Why not? Heck, try to find a grass course that favors speed, I could see him being really tough!

Better than going in a 6f race against quicker horses where he has little hope, or going in a ybred race for very little money.

parsixfarms 01-17-2008 04:15 PM

While we're talking about Zito, does anyone know what ever happened to He's Solid Gold, the Seeking The Gold half-brother to High Fly who looked good breaking his maiden this fall in his second lifetime start? I put him in my stable mail, and he has yet to have a published work since his maiden win.

whodey17 01-17-2008 04:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cajungator26
I have to give credit to Steve (Byk) on Jesus tap dancing.

Yes, that is a good one.

Cajungator26 01-17-2008 04:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by parsixfarms
While we're talking about Zito, does anyone know what ever happened to He's Solid Gold, the Seeking The Gold half-brother to High Fly who looked good breaking his maiden this fall in his second lifetime start? I put him in my stable mail, and he has yet to have a published work since his maiden win.

Good question... I noticed the same thing the other day. I thought I heard he had bucked his shins or something of that sort, but thought he was over that. :confused:

declansharbor 01-17-2008 04:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by whodey17
Track records fall like the stock market at Gulfstream. Nothing really to get all excited over.

For a horse to overcome past maladies time and time again, it sure is something to get excited over.

hoovesupsideyourhead 01-17-2008 04:18 PM

for someone who races sore horses.. lmfao..he sure looked bad today.......:eek:

whodey17 01-17-2008 04:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hoovesupsideyourhead
for someone who races sore horses.. lmfao..he sure looked bad today.......:eek:

Now that was funny.

slotdirt 01-17-2008 04:31 PM

I have to clarify that one usually has a Napoleon complex, not Napoleon syndrome. It's not the rhino virus, it's a state of mind.

whodey17 01-17-2008 04:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by slotdirt
I have to clarify that one usually has a Napoleon complex, not Napoleon syndrome. It's not the rhino virus, it's a state of mind.

Yeah, what he said.

Linny 01-17-2008 05:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hoovesupsideyourhead
whatever......and yes it is.....why not ..if hes doing that good..take a shot.

I'd be thinking Carter at AQU. This horse needs alot of time and 7f is a great game for him. The Donn is 16 days is a bit of a stretch, no matter how weak it comes up.
I'd like to see this horse and Chatain in the Met Mile. I can dream...

jballscalls 01-17-2008 05:36 PM

doesnt Commentator always come off the layoff and always run huge in a allowance optional or minor stakes type race?? i seem to remember him always running his best races with that scenario.

Scav 01-17-2008 05:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Linny
I'd be thinking Carter at AQU. This horse needs alot of time and 7f is a great game for him. The Donn is 16 days is a bit of a stretch, no matter how weak it comes up.
I'd like to see this horse and Chatain in the Met Mile. I can dream...

a performance like that and he might be done for a while. All his big efforts knocked him out. I hope this isn't the case this time but today was pretty large in the effort department (even though it looked really easy). Hopefully he came back sound so we can see another performance like that.

blackthroatedwind 01-17-2008 05:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Linny
I'd be thinking Carter at AQU. This horse needs alot of time and 7f is a great game for him. The Donn is 16 days is a bit of a stretch, no matter how weak it comes up.
I'd like to see this horse and Chatain in the Met Mile. I can dream...

It would be great to see Chatain have a full year. I'm a huge fan as well. I did read that Angel Penna plans to keep him sprinting which was great news. No 1 1/8 races for him.

The Indomitable DrugS 01-17-2008 08:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie
Better than going in a 6f race against quicker horses where he has little hope, or going in a ybred race for very little money.

Zito is a guy whos horses often run well below expectations when he runs them on the turf - and he doesn't go to the turf with his horses as often as others do.

Something I found odd about Commentator when I looked at his pedigree - in search of grass breeding.....is that his mother Outsource was an unraced $14,000 yearling who was foaled in 1998.

Commentator, her first foal, was foaled in March of 2001. Seems like Distorted Humor got his dam when she was a early 2-year-old.

letswastemoney 01-17-2008 08:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS
Zito is a guy whos horses often run well below expectations when he runs them on the turf - and he doesn't go to the turf with his horses as often as others do.

Something I found odd about Commentator when I looked at his pedigree - in search of grass breeding.....is that his mother Outsource was an unraced $14,000 yearling who was foaled in 1998.

Commentator, her first foal, was foaled in March of 2001. Seems like Distorted Humor got his dam when she was a early 2-year-old.

she was underage! :eek: :eek:


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