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Coach Pants 12-11-2007 04:33 PM

Les Miles
 
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=3150159

Miles' contract extension at LSU reportedly still contains a $1.25 million buyout he must pay if he leaves Baton Rouge for Ann Arbor.

:D

I'm enjoying the CoachSpeak.

Mortimer 12-11-2007 05:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pillow Pants
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=3150159

Miles' contract extension at LSU reportedly still contains a $1.25 million buyout he must pay if he leaves Baton Rouge for Ann Arbor.

:D

I'm enjoying the CoachSpeak.



Great stuff ain't it?

And he imitates Bo very,very well.



I think it's a secret message.

Danzig 12-11-2007 05:41 PM

a non issue.

however, just read that petrino has resigned from the falcons, and is going to arkansas.

Mortimer 12-11-2007 05:47 PM

Issue.

Coach Pants 12-11-2007 06:04 PM

It is an issue. If it was a non-issue then why not have the buyout removed from the extension?

whodey17 12-11-2007 06:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danzig
a non issue.

however, just read that petrino has resigned from the falcons, and is going to arkansas.

Petrino is a joke. Every year he would act like he was going to another school just so UofL would up his salary. He has to be one of the most unethical coaches there ever was when it comes to this kind of stuff. I am sure he will do the same to Arkansas as he did UofL and Atlanta.

Danzig 12-11-2007 06:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pillow Pants
It is an issue. If it was a non-issue then why not have the buyout removed from the extension?

espn seems to be stooping to the level of the national enquirer. and i'd imagine that until michigan chooses another coach, this b.s. will continue.

and as for the extension...i guess that's between miles and lsu. he agreed to it, they asked for it. no doubt everyone has their reasons. les says he wants to stay for a long time, maybe ten years from now he'll want to leave. who knows?

hell, petrino signed for five, and didn't even finish one.

Danzig 12-11-2007 06:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by whodey17
Petrino is a joke. Every year he would act like he was going to another school just so UofL would up his salary. He has to be one of the most unethical coaches there ever was when it comes to this kind of stuff. I am sure he will do the same to Arkansas as he did UofL and Atlanta.

he's the guy who tried to get the auburn job when tuberville was on the hot seat--that sneaky behind the scenes meeting. he also wanted the lsu job a couple years ago. he wants in the sec bad. well, they say be careful what you wish for.....i don't see him lasting long at arkansas, who is stupid for going after someone who has already shown his true colors. more than once.

Danzig 12-11-2007 06:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danzig
espn seems to be stooping to the level of the national enquirer. and i'd imagine that until michigan chooses another coach, this b.s. will continue.

and as for the extension...i guess that's between miles and lsu. he agreed to it, they asked for it. no doubt everyone has their reasons. les says he wants to stay for a long time, maybe ten years from now he'll want to leave. who knows?

hell, petrino signed for five, and didn't even finish one.


and then i go to espn, and find this article:

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/colum...nne&id=3148853

whodey17 12-11-2007 06:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danzig
he's the guy who tried to get the auburn job when tuberville was on the hot seat--that sneaky behind the scenes meeting. he also wanted the lsu job a couple years ago. he wants in the sec bad. well, they say be careful what you wish for.....i don't see him lasting long at arkansas, who is stupid for going after someone who has already shown his true colors. more than once.

To this day I believe ne never intended on staying at Atlanta for more than two years. I feel the only reason he went down there was to be in the middle of SEC country. He will get his balls beat in at Arkansas.

Danzig 12-11-2007 06:57 PM

if he thought atlanta fans were tough, wait til he gets over here.

he'd be better off going to michigan.

whodey17 12-11-2007 07:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danzig
if he thought atlanta fans were tough, wait til he gets over here.

he'd be better off going to michigan.

By the looks of the game last night, I didn't think people actually went to Atlanta's games.

Cajungator26 12-11-2007 10:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by whodey17
By the looks of the game last night, I didn't think people actually went to Atlanta's games.

Geaux Saints! :D

Mortimer 12-11-2007 11:07 PM

Uh...Herbstreit said his "contact" was someone directly involved in the negotiations with Miles and Michigan. It's very obvious they want each other...if you know the background. That's why his contract exclusively mentioned Michigan as the team that would cost Miles 1.5 mill.

So Miles denies it all..as they always do....and all of a sudden there's a contract extension. It played well due to the upcoming SEC champ. game and possible ( and now for sure) nc game.

And Miles was just caught talking to Michigan over the phone a few days ago...again...about everything except he being hc at Michigan...supposedly.

So it all kinda makes one think this isn't over until early January. There's a faction at Michigan that doesn't want Miles and maybe these are where "contacts" come into play.

Miles is their no. 1 guy, though. I still think he goes there...but we'll see.

It sure cheats the players .

Mortimer 12-11-2007 11:30 PM

See what you think of this noise:



Lions legend, ESPN analyst Chris Spielman discuss the Michigan coaching search
December 11, 2007

ESPN color commentator Chris Spielman, best known for his years as the Lions middle linebacker, talked with WXYT-FM (97.1) today about the U-M football coaching search.

Do you believe (Les Miles), or do you still think this is possible?

Well, I want to believe him, but his actions tell me different, correct? I mean, if he was completely out of it, why would he have a conversation with the president and the athletic director?



I think they have enough good people at Michigan and enough contacts around this country, that you don’t go to a guy, that you don’t go to a guy, that’s rumored to be your No. 1 contact. I mean, I just don’t know what to believe. Do you find that hard to believe? I do. I hate saying it, but don’t tell me that. You’re Michigan. You have access to every coach in the country to get advice on your search and you’re telling me that you don’t have enough good people in your system and in college football that you can’t get advice, that you have to get advice from Les Miles? Come on.

How does LSU and Michigan keep this thing under wraps for three weeks when you’ve got (media) trying to unearth this story?

This is just my observation from a far… Here’s the dilemma that Les Miles has: Les Miles has invested in his coaching staff and the LSU football program and in his kids, emotionally. He is not invested in Louisiana State University or the state of Louisiana. He is invested in Michigan, the state, and Michigan, the school, and the people. I understand that. I’m at Ohio State, I’m a proud alum. And, after experiencing what it was to be a Buckeye on the football field and after being part of this university, in helping raise over four and a half million dollars for cancer research, this university is something that lives inside of me. Michigan is a university that lives in Les Miles. Make no mistake about his passion. Understand his passion. His heart is with Michigan. What I would do, if this is the case, if I’m Les, I’d say, “LSU, I’m going to give you everything that’s in my power. Every fiber of my being is gonna go out to try to win a national championship. I’m a professional coach. You have to trust me that I will get it done. After that, if I want to be completely transparent and honest with you, as witness when I cried about the Michigan job at an LSU press conference, is that I still talked to the president and the athletic director at Michigan. I can’t lie to you. My heart is in Michigan. And you have the right to tell me to go pack salt, and go to Michigan right now, or you have to trust me, and I can go, and win you a national championship.” Wouldn’t that be refreshing?

It just seems like that since Kirk Herbstreit came out on that Saturday with that information, that the body is still moving.

I don’t want to be a conspiracy theorist here, but… What if Les said to Michigan wanted another coach. That’s basically what he said, right? Did he say I’m coach LSU for the year 2008… football season and beyond?

His quote was, “I will be the coach at LSU next season.”

Well, when that? Next season? Well, OK, I don’t know if he said next season. I don’t know. But you know what, if Michigan, I think Michigan should respond to his wishes and not have the president and athletic director call him and talk to him directly. And, I do think,… people in the position of power think that you’re an idiot, I’m an idiot, to think, “well, we’re just consulting him to see who he thinks is the best guy for Michigan.” Come on, man.

You can’t believe anything these guys say until the ink is dry on a contract with an unbearable buyout, or until you make the guy the highest paid coach, or until the game is played.

And I agree. I think most people that follow sports with a passion, and especially college football, like we do, we understand that. We seen it too many times. There are too many forces at work. Whether it be money, whether it be dream job… I mean, I could understand if he’s being ripped apart, emotionally. I really can. Because I know he loves his kids. And I know he’s given his heart and soul to LSU, but where is his heart? His heart is in Michigan. Now, he may very well end up being the coach at LSU. Only he’s gonna make that decision. Cause if he picks up the phone right now and tells Michigan, “I’m coming,” then he’s there. And what’s Michigan done? How proactive have they been? Did they have a formal meeting with Greg Schiano? And you still have Ron English and Mike DeBord as their leading candidates? Come on, man, you know those guys don’t have a shot. Right?

Danzig 12-11-2007 11:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mortimer
Uh...Herbstreit said his "contact" was someone directly involved in the negotiations with Miles and Michigan. It's very obvious they want each other...if you know the background. That's why his contract exclusively mentioned Michigan as the team that would cost Miles 1.5 mill.

So Miles denies it all..as they always do....and all of a sudden there's a contract extension. It played well due to the upcoming SEC champ. game and possible ( and now for sure) nc game.

And Miles was just caught talking to Michigan over the phone a few days ago...again...about everything except he being hc at Michigan...supposedly.

So it all kinda makes one think this isn't over until early January. There's a faction at Michigan that doesn't want Miles and maybe these are where "contacts" come into play.

Miles is their no. 1 guy, though. I still think he goes there...but we'll see.

It sure cheats the players .

you did see the article above by the espn ombudsman, right? in which herbstreit is said to have spoken to one anonymous,uncorroborated source who had nothing to do with any negotiating that may have occurred.

as for miles, he says that he is not in the running for the michigan job, having just signed an extension (would he have signed that last week, if he planned on ditching in a few weeks?)--and says he talked to michigan about their coaching search, presumably others in the running, not himself. one of his assistants past or present?
sure is a lot of rampant speculation based on a phone conversation.
hell, i talked to my former boss at the job i just left the other day, i have no plans to return.

Mortimer 12-11-2007 11:47 PM

Herbstreit himself said it wasn't just a "source"..that's how he put it. He said it was from someone directly involved in the negotiations. I heard him say that.


Read what Speilman says if you cannot follow the bouncing ball.

Danzig 12-11-2007 11:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mortimer
Herbstreit himself said it wasn't just a "source"..that's how he put it. He said it was from someone directly involved in the negotiations. I heard him say that.


Read what Speilman says if you cannot follow the bouncing ball.



"But early that Saturday, on ESPN and ESPNEWS and later ESPN.com, the word was out: "Sources have told ESPN's Kirk Herbstreit that, barring any unforeseen circumstances, Michigan will announce early next week it has reached an agreement with LSU coach Les Miles to be its next head football coach." As Herbstreit's later remarks would make clear, that information came not from "sources," but from a single, anonymous, uncorroborated source." sourceS?? that's plural. herbstreit made it sound as tho more than one person gave him this info, which later turned out to be untrue. so what else did he concoct?
les miles came out this evening and said AGAIN, he is NOT in the running for the job. this is ridiculous.
i hope michigan hurries up and finds someone, as this is becoming tedious.


"I'm not a candidate for that job and I will not be a candidate for the job," Miles said. "I was only assisting them in their search for a coach. I have a great job at a wonderful place, a place that my family calls home. It's time that Michigan goes on with their search for a football coach. I'll say it again, I'm going to be the coach at LSU next season."--from earlier this evening.

Coach Pants 12-11-2007 11:57 PM

He signed the extension to keep the team focused on the NC game. Which is naive to think that the media won't figure out the buyout is still in the extension.

I really don't care either way...well...yeah I care. I want him to leave so I can rib you and Cajun to death for all the **** DD and I took for Saban leaving Miami.

Danzig 12-12-2007 12:00 AM

i love how i get called naive when i have an opposing view. wish i had a dollar....

i just hope that all coaches aren't the same lying snakes in the grass as saban. and of course every one of them gets a sideways look now, due to ol nick. i made the mistake of believing him when he said he was set on staying in miami. so i REALLY hope i'm not wrong again. of course petrino doesn't help the whole coaching and ethics thing either.

Mortimer 12-12-2007 12:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danzig
"But early that Saturday, on ESPN and ESPNEWS and later ESPN.com, the word was out: "Sources have told ESPN's Kirk Herbstreit that, barring any unforeseen circumstances, Michigan will announce early next week it has reached an agreement with LSU coach Les Miles to be its next head football coach." As Herbstreit's later remarks would make clear, that information came not from "sources," but from a single, anonymous, uncorroborated source." sourceS?? that's plural. herbstreit made it sound as tho more than one person gave him this info, which later turned out to be untrue. so what else did he concoct?
les miles came out this evening and said AGAIN, he is NOT in the running for the job. this is ridiculous.
i hope michigan hurries up and finds someone, as this is becoming tedious.


"I'm not a candidate for that job and I will not be a candidate for the job," Miles said. "I was only assisting them in their search for a coach. I have a great job at a wonderful place, a place that my family calls home. It's time that Michigan goes on with their search for a football coach. I'll say it again, I'm going to be the coach at LSU next season."--from earlier this evening.


I and millions of other people heard him say it was from someone directly involved in the contract negotiations.

If you want to hang him on an " 's "...go right ahead.


If you truly have been around in the real world long enough...for you to keep throwing up all the plausible denials from Miles and all the lock tight commitments and can't see what's going on you're a lot more naive than I would have thought ,Dannie.

Speilman made it very clear.

Very,very clear.

If you believe the top people at Michigan are still talking to their number one candidate after he rejected their approaches -----to talk to him about search advice?........................................... .do I have to say it?

Mortimer 12-12-2007 12:10 AM

Let me put it this way...if Miles was so outraged about being outted in the first place.....why in the world does he risk even more distraction about this controversial issue by continuing to talk to the TOP guys at Michigan?

What sense does this make?

Danzig 12-12-2007 12:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mortimer
I and millions of other people heard him say it was from someone directly involved in the contract negotiations.

If you want to hang him on an " 's "...go right ahead.


If you truly have been around in the real world long enough...for you to keep throwing up all the plausible denials from Miles and all the lock tight commitments and can't see what's going on you're a lot more naive than I would have thought ,Dannie.

Speilman made it very clear.

Very,very clear.

If you believe the top people at Michigan are still talking to their number one candidate after he rejected their approaches -----to talk to him about search advice?........................................... .do I have to say it?

i dont care what herbstreit said--even the espn ombudsman blasts him in her article. if you want to go ahead and continue to believe something his fellow employee doesn't and that he finally backtracked on a day later, go for it.

miles says he'll be here, if he's just covering up, and even signed an extension just to keep this charade going, and ends up leaving, then i wouldn't have wanted him here anyway.
but in the meantime, i have no reason to disbelieve him. he said he's staying, he signed the extension. if he did all that to keep the team from being distracted, it's not working.
but boy, it sure helps espns ratings, doesn't it?

Danzig 12-12-2007 12:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mortimer
Let me put it this way...if Miles was so outraged about being outted in the first place.....why in the world does he risk even more distraction about this controversial issue by continuing to talk to the TOP guys at Michigan?

What sense does this make?

i don't know, and at this point, i guess i don't care. nothing any one, including the coach, and those at michigan, and the ad at lsu can convince anyone that miles is staying, so why am i even bothering?

we'll see in less than a month. til then....i'm out on this.

Mortimer 12-12-2007 12:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danzig
i dont care what herbstreit said--even the espn ombudsman blasts him in her article. if you want to go ahead and continue to believe something his fellow employee doesn't and that he finally backtracked on a day later, go for it.

miles says he'll be here, if he's just covering up, and even signed an extension just to keep this charade going, and ends up leaving, then i wouldn't have wanted him here anyway.
but in the meantime, i have no reason to disbelieve him. he said he's staying, he signed the extension. if he did all that to keep the team from being distracted, it's not working.
but boy, it sure helps espns ratings, doesn't it?


Miles does more for them than they could ever do by continuing to talk to the top people at Michigan.

Good night ,Dannie....take some fish oil will ya?

Mortimer 12-12-2007 12:17 AM

i don't know, and at this point, i guess i don't care. nothing any one, including the coach, and those at michigan, and the ad at lsu can convince anyone that miles is staying, so why am i even bothering?

we'll see in less than a month. til then....i'm out on this.








But I would love to play poker with you.

Coach Pants 12-12-2007 12:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danzig
i love how i get called naive when i have an opposing view. wish i had a dollar....

i just hope that all coaches aren't the same lying snakes in the grass as saban. and of course every one of them gets a sideways look now, due to ol nick. i made the mistake of believing him when he said he was set on staying in miami. so i REALLY hope i'm not wrong again. of course petrino doesn't help the whole coaching and ethics thing either.

I was referring to Miles and his agent being naive if they think the media won't pick up on the buyout that's in the extension.

Really Miles is a whore like Saban and the rest of 'em. They're all a bunch of dirty filthy whores.

ddthetide 12-12-2007 05:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pillow Pants
He signed the extension to keep the team focused on the NC game. Which is naive to think that the media won't figure out the buyout is still in the extension.

I really don't care either way...well...yeah I care. I want him to leave so I can rib you and Cajun to death for all the **** DD and I took for Saban leaving Miami.

you are RIGHT PP! if miles goes back to michigan, will he get treated like saban has? will the media and everyone else drag him through the mud and call him the devil, like they do CNS???

i still think he is going to michigan. had he lost the SECC game this would be all over by now. i don't think it's about money, it's about playing to win the NC.
these coaching searches have gotten ridiculous. Bama got beat up last year for it. well michigan and arky fans, how's it feel now? don't laugh to hard domers because you'll go through it again next year after weis gets fired.

Danzig 12-12-2007 06:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ddthetide
you are RIGHT PP! if miles goes back to michigan, will he get treated like saban has? will the media and everyone else drag him through the mud and call him the devil, like they do CNS???

i still think he is going to michigan. had he lost the SECC game this would be all over by now. i don't think it's about money, it's about playing to win the NC.
these coaching searches have gotten ridiculous. Bama got beat up last year for it. well michigan and arky fans, how's it feel now? don't laugh to hard domers because you'll go through it again next year after weis gets fired.

yep. he already is going thru exactly what nick went through. they wouldn't let saban loose about it, and miles is being constantly shadowed as well.
but petrino takes the cake.

Danzig 12-12-2007 07:00 AM

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/colum...1&sportCat=ncf

just found this on espn, about petrino--by forde, who apologizes to nick saban in the article!
nothing like seeing someone write an article that jibes completely with your own thoughts.

Danzig 12-12-2007 07:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pillow Pants
I was referring to Miles and his agent being naive if they think the media won't pick up on the buyout that's in the extension.

Really Miles is a whore like Saban and the rest of 'em. They're all a bunch of dirty filthy whores.

it was in his original contract. isn't an extension just that, adding time on at the end-perhaps with additions, but not necessarily subtractions?
i think his naivete would have more to do with thinking a call with michigan officials, if innocent as he claims, wouldn't be latched onto by the press.

and a lot of coaches are dirty and filthy, but surely not all of them? i guess the problem is that enough of them are, so all of them get looked at sideways.

Bigsmc 12-12-2007 08:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danzig
i dont care what herbstreit said--even the espn ombudsman blasts him in her article. if you want to go ahead and continue to believe something his fellow employee doesn't and that he finally backtracked on a day later, go for it.

In order to try to retain his squeaky clean rep. in the college FB world, he had to backtrack a day later because of the moronic "news conference" that Miles held that made him look like the bad guy.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danzig
but boy, it sure helps espns ratings, doesn't it?

I don't think so, I'm not watching ESPN any more or less than before. It just gives them SC filler when all that is going on right now are the endless NBA and NHL regular seasons.

Mortimer 12-12-2007 08:14 AM

Moronic "news conference" is a good way to put it.


Coaches consdering jumping ship will hold these things when caught sneaking around. They will deny they may be leaving and vent about the press for several minutes .... who made them sneak around .Then they will say" no questions" and leave.

The "no questions" is always a hint.





Miles and TOP Michigan officials( President and AD...that's all.) are scheduled to talk this morning. Subjects are limited to the weather and their baseball card collections as per Miles' contract.

Mortimer 12-12-2007 09:25 AM

BREAKING SPORTY NEWS





Coach Saban of Alabama reportedly has purchased the home of Les Miles in Louisiana.


Miles continues to pass the time of day over the tely with TOP Michigan officials.

Danzig 12-12-2007 09:44 AM

saban was in louisiana recruiting the other day, they were all over that happening as well. it's amazing.

i wonder tho, if miles is really leaving, how long petrino would wait before calling lsu. he'd bolt arkansas for a better sec opportunity faster than you can say 'contract negotiation'.

Cajungator26 12-12-2007 10:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pillow Pants
I was referring to Miles and his agent being naive if they think the media won't pick up on the buyout that's in the extension.

Really Miles is a whore like Saban and the rest of 'em. They're all a bunch of dirty filthy whores.

Saban is a douchebag. :D

Danzig 12-12-2007 10:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ddthetide
you are RIGHT PP! if miles goes back to michigan, will he get treated like saban has? will the media and everyone else drag him through the mud and call him the devil, like they do CNS???

i still think he is going to michigan. had he lost the SECC game this would be all over by now. i don't think it's about money, it's about playing to win the NC.
these coaching searches have gotten ridiculous. Bama got beat up last year for it. well michigan and arky fans, how's it feel now? don't laugh to hard domers because you'll go through it again next year after weis gets fired.

they have gotten ridiculous.
it's a shame that the athletes have restrictions regarding transferring, but coaches can do what they want, when they want. they should be made to wait til post season...an athlete has to wait to make a move, or hire an agent, or announce for the draft, etc.
if coaches had to wait to negotiate til the entire season was over, you wouldn't have all this mid season bs going on, or messing up bowl games, etc.
but then, the schools do it, so they suffer when it's done to them as well.
no honor among thieves.

Mortimer 12-12-2007 10:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danzig
saban was in louisiana recruiting the other day, they were all over that happening as well. it's amazing.

i wonder tho, if miles is really leaving, how long petrino would wait before calling lsu. he'd bolt arkansas for a better sec opportunity faster than you can say 'contract negotiation'.



I think if you really look at this......LSU made it public that Michigan asked for ( and received) permission to talk to Miles about the Michigan job.That'd be the only job mentioned in his LSU contract finding it necessary for Miles to give LSU 1.25 mill. should he jump to Michigan.This is because Michigan is Miles' number one desire as he is Michigans'. This is no news.

So stay with me on this..............is it very hard to connect a line from this sequence of fact and lead it to contract negotiations?


Do you really think Herbstreit just made his report up out of chocolate pudding??

The guy with the million plus dollar sports analyst/game commentater job?

Mortimer 12-12-2007 10:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danzig
they have gotten ridiculous.
it's a shame that the athletes have restrictions regarding transferring, but coaches can do what they want, when they want. they should be made to wait til post season...an athlete has to wait to make a move, or hire an agent, or announce for the draft, etc.
if coaches had to wait to negotiate til the entire season was over, you wouldn't have all this mid season bs going on, or messing up bowl games, etc.
but then, the schools do it, so they suffer when it's done to them as well.
no honor among thieves.


OOOOOOOOOO

Coach Pants 12-12-2007 10:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mortimer
I think if you really look at this......LSU made it public that Michigan asked for ( and received) permission to talk to Miles about the Michigan job.That'd be the only job mentioned in his LSU contract finding it necessary for Miles to give LSU 1.25 mill. should he jump to Michigan.This is because Michigan is Miles' number one desire as he is Michigans'. This is no news.

No stay with me on this..............is it very hard to connect a line from this sequence of fact and lead it to contract negotiations?


Do you really think Herbstreit just made his report up out of chocolate pudding??

The guy with the million plus dollar sports analyst/game commentater job?

Don't forget his exclusive self-tanner contract.


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