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Danzig 12-04-2007 08:16 PM

ark coach search
 
well....
first tuberville was mentioned. that is seemingly out.
then this morning supposedly they were after tommy bowden, and had sought permission to talk to him.
now i read that TB signed an extension with Clemson--good for him.

flashbacks to their b'ball coach search.



oh, and what the HELL is up with pelini staying with lsu thru their title game?!?! absolutely ridiculous.

ddthetide 12-05-2007 05:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Danzig
well....
first tuberville was mentioned. that is seemingly out.
then this morning supposedly they were after tommy bowden, and had sought permission to talk to him.
now i read that TB signed an extension with Clemson--good for him.

flashbacks to their b'ball coach search.



oh, and what the HELL is up with pelini staying with lsu thru their title game?!?! absolutely ridiculous.

surprising nebraska is allowing him to stay or that miles wants him there working 2 jobs. maybe that means miles isn't staying either.:rolleyes:

Danzig 12-05-2007 06:26 AM

miles' contract extension to be signed this week i believe.
nebraska says that there is no hurry, due to the timing, and they understand he's been with lsu three years blah blah blah.
besides, maybe nebraska knows it's bo's last shot at a title for a WHILE.:D

ARyan 12-05-2007 12:52 PM

Tommy played Arkansas for a nice solid long term deal with Clemson. I am glad he is staying, but he better win the ACC next year (no excuses with 18 starters returning).

I am not sure the fans of Arkansas are going to be happy with anyone they are able to land now.

ddthetide 12-05-2007 03:52 PM

TB would have been CRAZY to take the arky job. i don't think the hogs job is close to the clemson job.

heard this afternoon that fsu is to announce that jimbo fisher is the HC when bowden steps down. that was rumored in his contract.

Danzig 12-05-2007 06:13 PM

someone must have wanted to talk to jimbo...


funny tho, three names mentioned so far for the arkansas job, and three extensions signed by those guys. hilarious.

hey, callahan is available.:p

ddthetide 12-05-2007 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig
someone must have wanted to talk to jimbo...


funny tho, three names mentioned so far for the arkansas job, and three extensions signed by those guys. hilarious.

hey, callahan is available.:p

so mike shula; he was to interview for a small college job.

Danzig 12-05-2007 07:34 PM

i think a half dozen people so far have turned them down.

tim brando said it best today on his show. you (arkansas) needs to realize what you are, what you have, and therefore what you can get. they always aim too high. they are far from a top notch program, and lack top notch donations, and enough big money donors. it's why butch davis turned them down, and is remaining at north carolina. better program, with deeper pockets.

Danzig 12-05-2007 10:40 PM

grobe (wake forest) the latest in the hot seat. supposedly the arkansas foundation has agreed to an amount to pay out to the coach, but no one will confirm.

will wake offer an extension as well???

ARyan 12-06-2007 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Danzig
grobe (wake forest) the latest in the hot seat. supposedly the arkansas foundation has agreed to an amount to pay out to the coach, but no one will confirm.

will wake offer an extension as well???

If he goes, it will make traveling up to Winston-Salem a lot easier for most ACC teams. He is a great coach, and I wouldn't mind seeing him leave the ACC.

ddthetide 12-06-2007 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by ARyan
If he goes, it will make traveling up to Winston-Salem a lot easier for most ACC teams. He is a great coach, and I wouldn't mind seeing him leave the ACC.

espn is reporting that grobe has turned down arky.:D this is getting funny!TAM hasn't even started to look for a coach yet.

ARyan 12-06-2007 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by ddthetide
espn is reporting that grobe has turned down arky.:D this is getting funny!TAM hasn't even started to look for a coach yet.

Wow, the Arkansas Alums must be going nuts. Poor Jeff Long, I bet he regrets taking that AD job now. How long do you think he keeps his job after this?

ddthetide 12-06-2007 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by ARyan
Wow, the Arkansas Alums must be going nuts. Poor Jeff Long, I bet he regrets taking that AD job now. How long do you think he keeps his job after this?

it's not long's falt. the alums have be tring to run nutt off for 3 yrs. can't blame him for doin a backdoor deal with ole miss.
the coach at cincy is now grumbling that they have not extended his deal.
the coaching merry-go-round is starting to be a joke.

Cannon Shell 12-06-2007 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by ddthetide
it's not long's falt. the alums have be tring to run nutt off for 3 yrs. can't blame him for doin a backdoor deal with ole miss.
the coach at cincy is now grumbling that they have not extended his deal.
the coaching merry-go-round is starting to be a joke.

2 things that make the NCAA a joke.
1. BCS
2. Allowing the coaches to jump from school to school and just about blackmail the Universities yet when a kid wants to transfer for legit reasons he must sit out a year. Or when a guy like Bloom from Colorado is a legit pro in another sport, they dont allow him to make any money without losing eligibility.

Cannon Shell 12-06-2007 04:30 PM

The hottest coach available for the 2009 season will be Bobby Petrino.

3kings 12-06-2007 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by ARyan
Wow, the Arkansas Alums must be going nuts. Poor Jeff Long, I bet he regrets taking that AD job now. How long do you think he keeps his job after this?

Jeff Long has a history of screwing up the coaching process. It gets out to the media who he is after, offers a job, and has it blow up in his face. He totally botched the Pitt basketball search. He thought he had S.Prosser and paraded him all over with out getting the final committmen. Prosser then went back to Wake Forrest and was given a large raise. Than it was Calaparri and others. He finally had to offer the job to Jamie Dixon because he knew he would take it. It has worked out fine because Dixon is an excellent recruiter and coach but Long still botched the situation.

Danzig 12-06-2007 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
The hottest coach available for the 2009 season will be Bobby Petrino.

funny you mention petrino, as some yahoo called the local sports radio talk show, and suggested that maybe arkansas could get BP. um, yeah.

arkansas needs to find a guy who has not yet been head coach, but is ready to make the leap. they need an up and comer, either an OC, or a DC.

but arkansas has a horrible habit of running off some pretty good coaches who have produced for them.

lou holtz, nolan richardson, houston and of course stan heath--he got the heave ho when a BIG name in b'ball was looking to make a change. oops. he had no interest in coming here however.

Bigsmc 12-06-2007 07:30 PM

Considering how bad they have been over the past few years, Stan Heath has worked wonders with USF so far.

Cannon Shell 12-06-2007 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig
funny you mention petrino, as some yahoo called the local sports radio talk show, and suggested that maybe arkansas could get BP. um, yeah.

arkansas needs to find a guy who has not yet been head coach, but is ready to make the leap. they need an up and comer, either an OC, or a DC.

but arkansas has a horrible habit of running off some pretty good coaches who have produced for them.

lou holtz, nolan richardson, houston and of course stan heath--he got the heave ho when a BIG name in b'ball was looking to make a change. oops. he had no interest in coming here however.

Well he has to get fired by the Falcons first. That may take another year. Though he may rather go to Miami or FSU if not back to Louisville.

ddthetide 12-06-2007 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
Well he has to get fired by the Falcons first. That may take another year. Though he may rather go to Miami or FSU if not back to Louisville.

jimbo fisher is next coach at free shoes u. i can't see petrino at miami.

Cannon Shell 12-06-2007 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by ddthetide
jimbo fisher is next coach at free shoes u. i can't see petrino at miami.

I am not so sure that ol Jimbo is a lock. They may just be defering to BB but if they have a 4-8 season I can see the whole thing blown up and Bowden and his guy forced out. Why couldn't you see Petrino at Miami? He is a perfect fit.

Danzig 12-06-2007 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Bigsmc
Considering how bad they have been over the past few years, Stan Heath has worked wonders with USF so far.

stan heath should never have been let go by the hawgs. i'm not sure exactly what they expected from him at arkansas, but he was doing a very good job.
for whatever reason, many fans here have unrealistic expectations. then reality strikes, and they're unhappy fans with more unrealistic expectations.
case in point, how many down here thought they had a chance vs USC the last few years.

Danzig 12-06-2007 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
I am not so sure that ol Jimbo is a lock. They may just be defering to BB but if they have a 4-8 season I can see the whole thing blown up and Bowden and his guy forced out. Why couldn't you see Petrino at Miami? He is a perfect fit.

i have a feeling someone approached fisher, and that's why fsu came out with the 'he's our guy when bowden leaves' line. i thought a year ago when they hired him that they were just prepping for their future. i think BB is just trying to outlast paterno.

Cannon Shell 12-06-2007 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig
i have a feeling someone approached fisher, and that's why fsu came out with the 'he's our guy when bowden leaves' line. i thought a year ago when they hired him that they were just prepping for their future. i think BB is just trying to outlast paterno.

If they lose 6 or 7 games again he wont unless JoePa croaks

ARyan 12-07-2007 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
I am not so sure that ol Jimbo is a lock. They may just be defering to BB but if they have a 4-8 season I can see the whole thing blown up and Bowden and his guy forced out. Why couldn't you see Petrino at Miami? He is a perfect fit.

Apparenlty Jimbo is in a buyout situation, just like a head coach now. If he leaves he owes the school money, if they don't higher him as the next head coach they owe him money. Not sure any figure was discussed, but it was said to be in the millons.

ddthetide 12-07-2007 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
I am not so sure that ol Jimbo is a lock. They may just be defering to BB but if they have a 4-8 season I can see the whole thing blown up and Bowden and his guy forced out. Why couldn't you see Petrino at Miami? He is a perfect fit.

i'm probably wrong but i don't see petrino putting up with that gangster mentallity that ends up at miami.

other than fisher and the o-line coach, that fsu staff is old and been together along time, off and on through the years. if they lose 6-7 games again, i could see them blowing the whole thing up and i think petrino would be a better fit at fsu than miami.

if fisher has an "out clause" in his contract, i'm sure it's for wvu. i can't see that being open anytime soon.

ARyan 12-07-2007 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by ddthetide
i'm probably wrong but i don't see petrino putting up with that gangster mentallity that ends up at miami.

other than fisher and the o-line coach, that fsu staff is old and been together along time, off and on through the years. if they lose 6-7 games again, i could see them blowing the whole thing up and i think petrino would be a better fit at fsu than miami.

if fisher has an "out clause" in his contract, i'm sure it's for wvu. i can't see that being open anytime soon.

Rumor had it, Richie Rod had an out clause for Clemson. Had Bowden left, thats where the Tiger admin would have turned too...again, just a rumor that had been going around Death Valley.

ddthetide 12-07-2007 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by ARyan
Rumor had it, Richie Rod had an out clause for Clemson. Had Bowden left, thats where the Tiger admin would have turned too...again, just a rumor that had been going around Death Valley.

that would make some sense. the offenses and personnel would be VERY similar, other than clemson's D is better. coach rod is a wvu guy i don't think he is going anywhere. i'd be shocked if he did.

ddthetide 12-07-2007 03:47 PM

paul johnson leaving navy for georgia tech, effective immediately. the navy DC will coach the team for the bowl game. should be interest for navy johnson called alot of plays for the navy offense.

ARyan 12-07-2007 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by ddthetide
paul johnson leaving navy for georgia tech, effective immediately. the navy DC will coach the team for the bowl game. should be interest for navy johnson called alot of plays for the navy offense.

That Tech job will not be an easy one, but he is a nice coach.

Cannon Shell 12-07-2007 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by ddthetide
i'm probably wrong but i don't see petrino putting up with that gangster mentallity that ends up at miami.

other than fisher and the o-line coach, that fsu staff is old and been together along time, off and on through the years. if they lose 6-7 games again, i could see them blowing the whole thing up and i think petrino would be a better fit at fsu than miami.

if fisher has an "out clause" in his contract, i'm sure it's for wvu. i can't see that being open anytime soon.

Petrino is all about the gangster. He took in many questionable recruits at Louisville. How do you think they got so good so fast? I dont think he would want to follow Bowden.

Cannon Shell 12-07-2007 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by ARyan
That Tech job will not be an easy one, but he is a nice coach.

It wont be an easy job. Will he bring the wishbone with him?

Cannon Shell 12-07-2007 06:11 PM

With Schiano turning down Michigan have they become the biggest coach hiring debacle?

ARyan 12-07-2007 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
It wont be an easy job. Will he bring the wishbone with him?

You are right, I meant not an easy one.

I didn't catch it till I re-read your post 3 times. I think he is in for it there, but he is a nice coach, and even though Clemson will see him every year, I wish him luck, he will need it.

ARyan 12-07-2007 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
With Schiano turning down Michigan have they become the biggest coach hiring debacle?

Possibly, but it did take a whole lot of attention off of Arkansas...

Danzig 12-07-2007 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by ddthetide
paul johnson leaving navy for georgia tech, effective immediately. the navy DC will coach the team for the bowl game. should be interest for navy johnson called alot of plays for the navy offense.

hate to see him leave the midshipmen. five bowl games in a row. maybe not the top flight of bowls, but they still played post season.
i wish him luck at ga tech. he's going to need it.

Danzig 12-07-2007 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by ARyan
Possibly, but it did take a whole lot of attention off of Arkansas...

they say no news is good news. but in this case, it's just no news.
it's probably good for grobe that he turned them down, for a lot of the yahoos around here, anything north of I-40 is yankees territory. i doubt most 'fans' here ever heard of wake forest. there was a lot of negativity when he looked like he'd be the new coach.

ARyan 12-07-2007 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig
they say no news is good news. but in this case, it's just no news.
it's probably good for grobe that he turned them down, for a lot of the yahoos around here, anything north of I-40 is yankees territory. i doubt most 'fans' here ever heard of wake forest. there was a lot of negativity when he looked like he'd be the new coach.

I heard the same when Bowden was "looking" at the job. Very tough spot for ARK and Long right now, but maybe this Wolverine fiasco will take some attention off them...

There are some very good assistants out there, maybe now is the time to higher one of them instead of going for a "big" name.

Danzig 12-08-2007 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by ARyan
I heard the same when Bowden was "looking" at the job. Very tough spot for ARK and Long right now, but maybe this Wolverine fiasco will take some attention off them...

There are some very good assistants out there, maybe now is the time to higher one of them instead of going for a "big" name.

yeah, i posted that a day or two ago--go after a good OC or DC who's looking to make the leap, and would consider arkansas a step up. or go into the new 1-a (formerly 2-a) division schools.

ddthetide 12-08-2007 11:06 AM

terry "buster brown" bowden wants back in coaching. maybe he'll take the arky job.:rolleyes:


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