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JJP 10-30-2007 11:20 PM

NFL rankings after week 8
 
1. New England- hard to not have them # 1, even though most of their opponents have been lousy
2. Indy- clear # 2 with a chance to bump NE off
3. Pitt- best of the rest
4. San Diego-- seems back after slow start
5. Dallas- gave NE a good game for 3 quarters
6. Tennessee-under the radar but very good
7. NY Giants- have narrowed the gap between themselves and Cowboys in NFC
8. Green Bay-- only concern is poor running game
9. Jacksonville-- they'd be higher w/Garrard but that backup QB is absolutely terrible
10. New Orleans--now rolling after a bad start

Scav 10-30-2007 11:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JJP
1. New England- hard to not have them # 1, even though most of their opponents have been lousy
2. Indy- clear # 2 with a chance to bump NE off
3. Pitt- best of the rest
4. San Diego-- seems back after slow start
5. Dallas- gave NE a good game for 3 quarters
6. Tennessee-under the radar but very good
7. NY Giants- have narrowed the gap between themselves and Cowboys in NFC
8. Green Bay-- only concern is poor running game
9. Jacksonville-- they'd be higher w/Garrard but that backup QB is absolutely terrible
10. New Orleans--now rolling after a bad start

Speaking of Jacksonville, how can you cut a sub par QB in Leftwich when you have that QB as their backup now. He is putrid. I think Del Rio is a good coach but Leftwich had to be banging his daughter or something for him to make that move, moronic.....

hi_im_god 10-31-2007 12:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JJP
1. New England- hard to not have them # 1, even though most of their opponents have been lousy
2. Indy- clear # 2 with a chance to bump NE off
3. Pitt- best of the rest
4. San Diego-- seems back after slow start
5. Dallas- gave NE a good game for 3 quarters
6. Tennessee-under the radar but very good
7. NY Giants- have narrowed the gap between themselves and Cowboys in NFC
8. Green Bay-- only concern is poor running game
9. Jacksonville-- they'd be higher w/Garrard but that backup QB is absolutely terrible
10. New Orleans--now rolling after a bad start

"1. New England- hard to not have them # 1, even though most of their opponents have been lousy."

doesn't that perception of their opponents say a lot?

san diego has allowed an average of 18.4 points/game through last week.
ne scored 38

buffalo has allowed an average of 19.3
ne scored 38

dallas has allowed 22.6
ne scored 48

washington has allowed 20.0
ne scored 52

all those average points allowed stats include the points ne put up against the team.

none of those are bad d's.

meanwhile their d is averaging 15.9 ppg scored against.

they built this team to beat indy.

your #1 and #2 aren't close.

golfer 10-31-2007 05:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Scav
Speaking of Jacksonville, how can you cut a sub par QB in Leftwich when you have that QB as their backup now. He is putrid. I think Del Rio is a good coach but Leftwich had to be banging his daughter or something for him to make that move, moronic.....

I don't think he has a daughter (he did have a mansion on the river, but I believe now lives in a Ponte Vedra Country Club). It was all about the $$$$$$
Leftwich was making WAY too much money to be a back-up.

GBBob 10-31-2007 05:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JJP
1. New England- hard to not have them # 1, even though most of their opponents have been lousy
2. Indy- clear # 2 with a chance to bump NE off
3. Pitt- best of the rest
4. San Diego-- seems back after slow start
5. Dallas- gave NE a good game for 3 quarters
6. Tennessee-under the radar but very good
7. NY Giants- have narrowed the gap between themselves and Cowboys in NFC
8. Green Bay-- only concern is poor running game
9. Jacksonville-- they'd be higher w/Garrard but that backup QB is absolutely terrible
10. New Orleans--now rolling after a bad start


OK..Obviously biased, but how can SD and NYG be ahead of GB considering they beat them both already? And I'm not sure I would put Tennesse there either. Or Pitt considering they lost to Denver at DEnver and GB beat them there Mon night.


1 and 2 certainly right, Dallas 3, GB 4..
at least until we lose at KC Sunday...

Hickory Hill Hoff 10-31-2007 06:14 AM

1) PATRIOTS - the NFL'S "evil empire, the team you love to hate!
2) COLTS - defending champions and the team with "class"
3) COWBOYS - best in the "junior" league, QB is thier future ($$$)!
4) PACKERS - ageless wonder @ QB w/ young talent, surprise
5) GIANTS - we saw this last year.....this time no Tiki
6) STEELERS - surprising start for my "Men of Steel" under new coach, division looks a lock with win this week.
7) TITANS - not pretty, but get the job done.
8) LIONS - who would thought? beat the "big bad Bears" @ home, finally a decent team.
9) JAGUARS - the team I "love to hate", done with "smoke and mirrors", still winning record.
10) CHARGERS - best 4-3 record & now on a roll, little too late???

"Bottom feeders"

32) DOLPHINS - change of country did not help
31) RAMS - injuries or not, can't blow 14-0 when you're this bad...oh I forgot
30) FALCONS - can we say Matt Ryan?
29) JETS - find ways to lose
28) 49ERS - can't score with Frank Gore
27) VIKINGS - can we say Matt Ryan II
26) RAIDERS - after somewhat good start...more of the same
25) BENGALS - crime doesn't pay!

2 Dollar Bill 10-31-2007 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Hickory Hill Hoff
1) PATRIOTS - the NFL'S "evil empire, the team you love to hate!
2) COLTS - defending champions and the team with "class"
3) COWBOYS - best in the "junior" league, QB is thier future ($$$)!
4) PACKERS - ageless wonder @ QB w/ young talent, surprise
5) GIANTS - we saw this last year.....this time no Tiki
6) STEELERS - surprising start for my "Men of Steel" under new coach, division looks a lock with win this week.
7) TITANS - not pretty, but get the job done.
8) LIONS - who would thought? beat the "big bad Bears" @ home, finally a decent team.
9) JAGUARS - the team I "love to hate", done with "smoke and mirrors", still winning record.
10) CHARGERS - best 4-3 record & now on a roll, little too late???

"Bottom feeders"

32) DOLPHINS - change of country did not help
31) RAMS - injuries or not, can't blow 14-0 when you're this bad...oh I forgot
30) FALCONS - can we say Matt Ryan?
29) JETS - find ways to lose
28) 49ERS - can't score with Frank Gore
27) VIKINGS - can we say Matt Ryan II
26) RAIDERS - after somewhat good start...more of the same
25) BENGALS - crime doesn't pay!

The cowboys # 3?.. Whats going happen after the beagles spank them this week ? The G-men #5.... after they beat #32 Fins by 3 points ? The titans #7... after they ""lucked"" out beating the Silver & black @ home ? The lions #8 ... who got smoked by the beagles ? After watching the season soooo far... I really Question if there is a Top 10 in the NFL.
My other question is what is going to happen when come team RUNS up the score on ""hoodies"" team ? Suppose the colts are up 38-7 on sunday, and with a 4th and two... Peyton comes back in and throws a TD pass to Marvin ?

GBBob 10-31-2007 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by 2 Dollar Bill
The cowboys # 3?.. Whats going happen after the beagles spank them this week ? The G-men #5.... after they beat #32 Fins by 3 points ? The titans #7... after they ""lucked"" out beating the Silver & black @ home ? The lions #8 ... who got smoked by the beagles ? After watching the season soooo far... I really Question if there is a Top 10 in the NFL.
My other question is what is going to happen when come team RUNS up the score on ""hoodies"" team ? Suppose the colts are up 38-7 on sunday, and with a 4th and two... Peyton comes back in and throws a TD pass to Marvin ?

There is a Top 2...a middle 20 or so that can all beat each other on any given day and the rest who truly stink

Bigsmc 10-31-2007 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by GBBob
There is a Top 2...a middle 20 or so that can all beat each other on any given day and the rest who truly stink

I agree. Every team below the Top 2 has the ability to look putrid as often as they look good. There is a massive gap between 2 and 3.

The thought of the Lions, Titans, Jags or Giants being top 10 teams makes me shudder.

Mortimer 10-31-2007 09:35 AM

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1) PATRIOTS - Hidden Cameras
2) COLTS - First timer off a last time
3) COWBOYS - Europes team.
4) PACKERS - Reality and arthritis soon to set in
5) GIANTS - On the contiki...ain't gonna duhit
6) STEELERS - surprising start for my "Men of Steel" under new coach, division looks a lock with win this week-----POSSIBLY THE MOST IDIOTIC STATEMENT EVER SEEN HERE.
7) TITANS - Clashing
8) LIONS - Have 22 no.1 wide receivers playing out of position
9) JAGUARS - Ah always wanted me a Jaggywar
10) CHARGERS - Hoping to get AAA Rod

Bigsmc 10-31-2007 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Mortimer
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7) TITANS - Clashing

I laughed.

Mortimer 10-31-2007 09:44 AM

You didn't like the Colts thing??

KY_Sasquash 10-31-2007 09:50 AM

Titans at 6 is a little high. They are yet to beat a good team (maybe the Saints but they were struggling at that point) and their last 4 wins were vs Atlanta, Tampa Bay, Houston, and Oakland.

Mortimer 10-31-2007 09:50 AM

I did.

declansharbor 10-31-2007 12:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2 Dollar Bill
The cowboys # 3?.. Whats going happen after the beagles spank them this week ? The G-men #5.... after they beat #32 Fins by 3 points ? The titans #7... after they ""lucked"" out beating the Silver & black @ home ? The lions #8 ... who got smoked by the beagles ? After watching the season soooo far... I really Question if there is a Top 10 in the NFL.
My other question is what is going to happen when come team RUNS up the score on ""hoodies"" team ? Suppose the colts are up 38-7 on sunday, and with a 4th and two... Peyton comes back in and throws a TD pass to Marvin ?

I agree that the Eagles will give the Cowgirls all they can handle this weekend. One area in which I think you are wrong is when you question team's rankings because of who beat them. Example. The Birds crushed the Lions, a team who has defeated the Bears twice. Yet the Bears beat the Birds. So with that said, Eagles>Lions>Bears>Eagles??? Like someone has said before, it's the top two teams, then a scramble each week between the rest. Hell, one can argue that if the Birds had a half competent punt returner at the time, they would have beaten the now 6-1 Packers. Also, had the refs not pulled that penalty out of obscurity (false start if the QB never touches the snap), the Eagles would have beaten the Bears. Football is a game of inches and what if's. Teams that deserve to win, win. Plain and simple.

Injuries, hot streaks, weather, home field advantage, etc., etc. have a large say in the matter.
So, what I am saying, in effect, is that rankings mean less of a $hit when it comes to what team will show up any given sunday. Look at the Steeler's a few years ago. Made the playoffs by the skin of thier teeth, only to make som real noise in the playoffs.

And BTW, the Titans are alot better than most people give them credit for. Fisher is one of the best at interchanging players and not skipping a beat. Probably the best team that noone has heard of. No real superstars, just 53 guys that go out and play a grinding style of football.

Cannon Shell 10-31-2007 01:17 PM

1. NE
32. Miami

The rest are meaningless....

Hickory Hill Hoff 10-31-2007 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Mortimer
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1) PATRIOTS - Hidden Cameras
2) COLTS - First timer off a last time
3) COWBOYS - Europes team.
4) PACKERS - Reality and arthritis soon to set in
5) GIANTS - On the contiki...ain't gonna duhit
6) STEELERS - surprising start for my "Men of Steel" under new coach, division looks a lock with win this week-----[I]POSSIBLY THE MOST IDIOTIC STATEMENT EVER SEEN HERE.[/i]7) TITANS - Clashing
8) LIONS - Have 22 no.1 wide receivers playing out of position
9) JAGUARS - Ah always wanted me a Jaggywar
10) CHARGERS - Hoping to get AAA Rod


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Mortimer 10-31-2007 03:37 PM

Just trying to blend in with the crowd 3-H...just trying to blend in with the crowd.

Mortimer 10-31-2007 03:50 PM

I think you have to put JJPees statement into perspective.



He says his "men of steel" ( I won't be addrressing JJP directly.....I promise you) with a win this week will lock up the division.



Now should that happen they will be 6-2. Cleve. and Balt. ( should they win) will be 5-3.

So ,according to the steel fetish man, Pitt. will have the div." locked up" at the half way point......by reason of a ONE game lead over TWO teams......





....don't ya know.

Danzig 10-31-2007 04:07 PM

i can see a very good argument for having steelers at #three, their d is the best in the nfl going by points against. they're the only team left in double digits in that regard.

as for the o, pats have scored over 100 points more than the next highest offense. amazing.

Hickory Hill Hoff 10-31-2007 04:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mortimer
I think you have to put JJPees statement into perspective.



He says his "men of steel" ( I won't be addrressing JJP directly.....I promise you) with a win this week will lock up the division.



Now should that happen they will be 6-2. Cleve. and Balt. ( should they win) will be 5-3.

So ,according to the steel fetish man, Pitt. will have the div." locked up" at the half way point......by reason of a ONE game lead over TWO teams......





....don't ya know.


You can address me anyway you like.....I'm sure we'll see you on Dateline :D





and to think I stuck up for ya.............

JJP 10-31-2007 04:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GBBob
OK..Obviously biased, but how can SD and NYG be ahead of GB considering they beat them both already? And I'm not sure I would put Tennesse there either. Or Pitt considering they lost to Denver at DEnver and GB beat them there Mon night.


1 and 2 certainly right, Dallas 3, GB 4..
at least until we lose at KC Sunday...

Re: GB, right now there's now doubt in my mind both the NYG and SD would be favored over them on a neutral field. The Packers have played great; defense is very solid, good QB play and solid receivers. But when the weather gets cold, and it will up there, you HAVE to be able to run the ball and GB can't. Head to head results aren't the end-all in NFL rankings, especially when you are talking about games 6 weeks ago.

JJP 10-31-2007 04:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
1. NE
32. Miami

The rest are meaningless....

And number 32 is meaningful because.....?

JJP 10-31-2007 04:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mortimer
I think you have to put JJPees statement into perspective.



He says his "men of steel" ( I won't be addrressing JJP directly.....I promise you) with a win this week will lock up the division.



Now should that happen they will be 6-2. Cleve. and Balt. ( should they win) will be 5-3.

So ,according to the steel fetish man, Pitt. will have the div." locked up" at the half way point......by reason of a ONE game lead over TWO teams......





....don't ya know.

I never called Pittsburgh my "men of steel". Wrong person.

But they would put an a$$ whippin to the Cowboys.

Mortimer 10-31-2007 04:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JJP
I never called Pittsburgh my "men of steel". Wrong person.

But they would put an a$$ whippin to the Cowboys.


Oh g iv ea br ak e here.





YOU TWO ARE THE SAME PERSON.

Cannon Shell 10-31-2007 04:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JJP
And number 32 is meaningful because.....?

Thats my team man!!!

Danzig 10-31-2007 06:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
Thats my team man!!!

my condolences.
besides, everyone knows #32 is important as they get first pick in the draft...

dylbert 10-31-2007 08:11 PM

Dream on... Cowboys Kennel Beagles!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 2 Dollar Bill
The cowboys # 3?.. Whats going happen after the beagles spank them this week ? The G-men #5.... after they beat #32 Fins by 3 points ? The titans #7... after they ""lucked"" out beating the Silver & black @ home ? The lions #8 ... who got smoked by the beagles ? After watching the season soooo far... I really Question if there is a Top 10 in the NFL.
My other question is what is going to happen when come team RUNS up the score on ""hoodies"" team ? Suppose the colts are up 38-7 on sunday, and with a 4th and two... Peyton comes back in and throws a TD pass to Marvin ?

another deluded Beagles fan speaks... won any Super Bowls lately? Cowboys have 5 wins in 8 appearances. Beagles have 2 losses and not even sniff at a win. Dick Vermeil, Buddy Ryan, Andy Reid -- and no SB victories.

dylbert 10-31-2007 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by declansharbor
I agree that the Eagles will give the Cowgirls all they can handle this weekend.

another deluded Beagles fan... didn't Connie Mack lead the last Philadelphia team that won a professional sports league championship? Get out your cryin' towel for this weekend.

packerbacker7964 10-31-2007 08:22 PM

Run the football eh? How many rushing yards do the Pats have right now? We throw the short passes and we'll run when we have too. Somone has to stop the pass 1st then we'll try something else. Our D is winning us games right now anyway. Go Pack!!!!

IrishofNDMan 10-31-2007 08:23 PM

hey backer, how is my Irish boy Ryan Grant doing for your pack these days?

dylbert 10-31-2007 08:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JJP
I never called Pittsburgh my "men of steel". Wrong person.

But they would put an a$$ whippin to the Cowboys.

another deluded Peaksburgh Squealers fan... last Super Bowl victory in Seventies! Dream on - if you can't handle Cardinals, why imagine you could stay on field with Dallas Cowboys?

declansharbor 10-31-2007 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by dylbert
another deluded Beagles fan speaks... won any Super Bowls lately? Cowboys have 5 wins in 8 appearances. Beagles have 2 losses and not even sniff at a win. Dick Vermeil, Buddy Ryan, Andy Reid -- and no SB victories.

And those Super Bowls in the past don't mean jack $hit this year. Why does every Cowboys fan bring up the ring every time they feel threatened. Really, the past is the past, bud.
Why do I have this feeling that you're gonna bring up the ring next week when your boys are flying home losers.


BTW, Dallas isnt even a city. It's a gathering of shunned circus folk. I was there a few years ago, horrible city would be an understatement. What kind of city cant even protect our own country's President??

dylbert 10-31-2007 08:34 PM

Cowboys Fan Since 1966
 
I absolutely love being lifelong Cowboys fan! Getting attacked by fans of lesser teams is always entertaining... keep it coming because only two teams make big game each year and only one exits as victor.

declansharbor 10-31-2007 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by dylbert
I absolutely love being lifelong Cowboys fan! Getting attacked by fans of lesser teams is always entertaining... keep it coming because only two teams make big game each year and only one exits as victor.

EXACTLY. And the Cowboys have won as many chips in the past 5 years as the Eagles have. None. Time will tell as to who still reigns over the NFC East, less than a week to be exact. We might have never had an Eagles parade, but we've also never been tossed from the playoffs due to a botched snap. Michael Irvin could've lined up every hash mark in all 30 stadiums with his suitcase contents.
Let the real trash talking begin Sunday night around 11:30.

Danzig 10-31-2007 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by dylbert
another deluded Peaksburgh Squealers fan... last Super Bowl victory in Seventies! Dream on - if you can't handle Cardinals, why imagine you could stay on field with Dallas Cowboys?

that game they just played against seattle, with hasselbeck, was in the 70's?!
time flies. ol matt must be feeling it by now...

dylbert 10-31-2007 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by declansharbor
And those Super Bowls in the past don't mean jack $hit this year. Why does every Cowboys fan bring up the ring every time they feel threatened. Really, the past is the past, bud.
Why do I have this feeling that you're gonna bring up the ring next week when your boys are flying home losers.


BTW, Dallas isnt even a city. It's a gathering of shunned circus folk. I was there a few years ago, horrible city would be an understatement. What kind of city cant even protect our own country's President??

Past victories are great... this weekend's will be sweet. 6-1 Cowboys and only loss is to juggernaut Pats. 3-4 Beagles are really scary... McNabb may not finish game -- either benched or injured. And you haven't even played Patriots yet... good luck in Foxboro!

pgardn 10-31-2007 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by dylbert
I absolutely love being lifelong Cowboys fan! Getting attacked by fans of lesser teams is always entertaining... keep it coming because only two teams make big game each year and only one exits as victor.

How about Staubach, did you like him?

chance to pounce... on a cowgirl fan.

dylbert 10-31-2007 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig
that game they just played against seattle, with hasselbeck, was in the 70's?!
time flies. ol matt must be feeling it by now...

You got me! LOL... Seahawks played hell of a game. Steelers played hell of a two scoring plays and sleepwalked through rest of game. No great shakes being SB winner in an incredibly weak NFL that year. Haven't heard from Steelers since that game.

Week 14 -- I'll take Pats and spot you 22 points. Feel free to quote this post on December 9. I know I can't wait...

pgardn 10-31-2007 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by dylbert
I absolutely love being lifelong Cowboys fan! Getting attacked by fans of lesser teams is always entertaining... keep it coming because only two teams make big game each year and only one exits as victor.

Yes indeed.
So glad the Cowgirls picked up
such a fine human in Tank.
Maybe Jerry, Tank, and Dick Cheney
can all go hunting together
and shoot each others faces off.

Oh Jeez. I forgot. Jerry has already
had a face lift. What a loser franchise
now the Jones' are at the helm.

Jimmy Johnson is gone and so are the
Cowgirls. Your time came and went.
Live with the new Cowboys.


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